The Official 2020 NBA Draft Talk Thread (11/18)

[#1 pick]

Brehs didn't want Brad Beal for one of our lottery picks last year and now we frontin on Levine?

Deni is a good pick if we're planning on playing 24/7 run and gun with lots of Hunter at the 4 and Collins at the 5. We would need a secondary facilitator on the wing in those sets, which is why we went to 2 PG Trae and Teague/Goodwin lineups with Cam at the 3. We could fill that role in this draft with one of the dynamic combo guards like Hayes or Hali but I think we would be better defensively if we had a playmaking 3 that could keep Cam at the 2.

If we decide to run more traditional sets and keep Hunter/Collins predominantly at 3/4 then it's a different story and he's less of a fit.

Bradley Beal was never available for anyone's pick and don't compare LeVine to someone like Beal please.

Deni is an iight pick. He's a PF, ain't no PF worth drafting ahead of Toppin who fits our system and our offense to a T. Deni is NOT a SF. Have you watched Deni play? You must think breh is Luka, LOL! Naw, he's a 4 on defense. On offense, he can be on the perimeter but defensively, naw. Not a chance. He's a PF through and through. If we gonna take a wing, Okoro is the only real option outside of Ant who sees himself as a G period.

 

[Lex218]

Who is the best shooter? Don't care the position

Probably Aaron Nesmith from Vanderbilt

 

[Professor K.]

Bradley Beal was never available for anyone's pick and don't compare LeVine to someone like Beal please.

Deni is an iight pick. He's a PF, ain't no PF worth drafting ahead of Toppin who fits our system and our offense to a T. Deni is NOT a SF. Have you watched Deni play? You must think breh is Luka, LOL! Naw, he's a 4 on defense. On offense, he can be on the perimeter but defensively, naw. Not a chance. He's a PF through and through. If we gonna take a wing, Okoro is the only real option outside of Ant who sees himself as a G period.

I brought Beal up in a Hawks thread last year and caught hell for it

I do see Deni as more of 3 but I'm not gonna fight you on that

Toppin nice but I just can't see how he fits with the pieces we already got I can see him running with Trae and Cam but Collins needs to be playing most of his minutes at the 4 and Hunter slick needs some of his time there too. You see Toppin as a 5 or would you want Collins there more often?

 

[#1 pick]

I brought Beal up in a Hawks thread last year and caught hell for it

I do see Deni as more of 3 but I'm not gonna fight you on that

Toppin nice but I just can't see how he fits with the pieces we already got I can see him running with Trae and Cam but Collins needs to be playing most of his minutes at the 4 and Hunter slick needs some of his time there too. You see Toppin as a 5 or would you want Collins there more often?

It's all about defense. Deni can't defend 3 at all. Struggles at it in Isreal. How you gonna hide him if you hiding Trae and JC already? People liked him for his playmaking but how is he going to defend? It's not like he's cold on offense like Obi where Obi can do it all. Score, finish, PnR, PnP, create for himself and others. If we gonna draft a 4, we need to draft Toppin. Drafting Deni is a wasted pick. Not cold on offense and can't defend. Obi defense is bad too but at least he's great on the offensive end.

Toppin ain't starting. None of these nikkas is. We already got our starting five. This are key reserves.

 

[tremonthustler1]

It's all about defense. Deni can't defend 3 at all. Struggles at it in Isreal. How you gonna hide him if you hiding Trae and JC already? People liked him for his playmaking but how is he going to defend? It's not like he's cold on offense like Obi where Obi can do it all. Score, finish, PnR, PnP, create for himself and others. If we gonna draft a 4, we need to draft Toppin. Drafting Deni is a wasted pick. Not cold on offense and can't defend. Obi defense is bad too but at least he's great on the offensive end.

Toppin ain't starting. None of these nikkas is. We already got our starting five. This are key reserves.

IDK.

If y'all draft Edwards and he's battling Huerter for the SG job, he could win.


and drafting a 4 IMO is a waste as long as y'all are committed to Capela /Collins.

 

[Professor K.]

It's all about defense. Deni can't defend 3 at all. Struggles at it in Isreal. How you gonna hide him if you hiding Trae and JC already? People liked him for his playmaking but how is he going to defend? It's not like he's cold on offense like Obi where Obi can do it all. Score, finish, PnR, PnP, create for himself and others. If we gonna draft a 4, we need to draft Toppin. Drafting Deni is a wasted pick. Not cold on offense and can't defend. Obi defense is bad too but at least he's great on the offensive end.

Toppin ain't starting. None of these nikkas is. We already got our starting five. This are key reserves.

It's easier to hide a 3 than a 4/5. Good team defense with Trae on the court will be about proper rim protection behind him more than locking down the wings, which we have Cam George and DeAndre Leonard for. No sense in us getting any big that's not a potentially great rim protector.

If it's about our second unit, we should get whichever one of the combo guards we believe can play offball with Trae and keep that same type of energy when he's off the court.

 

[#1 pick]

It's easier to hide a 3 than a 4/5. Good team defense with Trae on the court will be about proper rim protection behind him more than locking down the wings, which we have Cam George and DeAndre Leonard for. No sense in us getting any big that's not a potentially great rim protector.

If it's about our second unit, we should get whichever one of the combo guards we believe can play offball with Trae and keep that same type of energy when he's off the court.

Breh, you can't hide more than one player much less three players or your team is playing defense like the 2019-2020 Atlanta Hawks which is no defense.

LOL, Cam and De'Andre don't need that expectation in year 2. We just need them to be a lot more productive and go from there.

I'll rather Toppin. He a tremendous offensive player. It makes sense to draft a player who can help you win games and help our trash ass offensive PPP which is worse considering we got Trae who is worth a lot for PPP by himself.

 

[Rigby.]

He's fantastic off motion, screens, catch and shoot, and spot up. He isn't just a corner 3 game either. He is also a great assist farm/play finisher.

His only problem is that he isn't a great finisher or creative ISO guy that would make him a poor man's Klay Thompson, but with how much he developed under Stackhouse.Him not being a playmaker isn't the end of the world. You can't field 5 playmakers. 3 is kind of the real max on that. You do need your elite role players. I do think the sky's the limit with his work ethic. An Elite motion shooter is a hard skill to master next to Elite defense and Elite ISO in my opinion.

When you got Zion pulling triple teams... You got Ingram, Nesmith to clean up. The only problem with Nesmith. He and Zion do needs a facilitator with range. Jrue is a volume shooter that is average beyond the arch and Lonzo is just a garbage rhythm shooter not a technical sound sharpshooter. If can't get a certified killer at Point. I do see us trading Jrue and dumping Lonzo this year. We really can't afford to trade Jrue, but we have to shake up our guard position big time and NAW isn't ready for primetime.

To your point, he's really complimentary on O. I truthfully didnt pay much attn to him on defense (I don't think Vandy's awful system could've done much to help him on that end), but 3 guard rotations with him Jrue and JJ and Zion at the 5 has to be really enticing

you cant teach 52% from 3 on 8 attempts a game. Having 2 dudes that can shoot moving off screens is going to make the potency of Zion dives I still think they have to figure out a consistent solution to the starting center but NO would be well on their way to getting Lonzo the fukk outta there if Aaron works

 

[Rigby.]

If we gonna take a wing, Okoro is the only real option outside of Ant who sees himself as a G period

OBVIOUSLY biased, but the only thing that really doesnt make Okoro work to me is just the fact they have Hunter and Reddish. I assume they at least wanted Hunter to bring some of the value Isaac would give, but I dunno where yall are at with him on defense. I just think he's a great 2-4 (college 4) defender that's going to allow you to do whatever at that 2 spot and get by with it on D.

 

[#1 pick]

OBVIOUSLY biased, but the only thing that really doesnt make Okoro work to me is just the fact they have Hunter and Reddish. I assume they at least wanted Hunter to bring some of the value Isaac would give, but I dunno where yall are at with him on defense. I just think he's a great 2-4 (college 4) defender that's going to allow you to do whatever at that 2 spot and get by with it on D.

Okoro is not starting in year 1. This is for depth, if he eventually beats out one of these guys in the future, then he's the starter.

 

[Rigby.]

Okoro is not starting in year 1. This is for depth, if he eventually beats out one of these guys in the future, then he's the starter.

I mean sure, but im operating under the idea he's gonna be getting consistent minutes at the 3 before long. Need doesn't equal ability, but with the current glut they got at 2/3, I'd figure they want an answer for those positions within 2 seasons.

 

[#1 pick]

I mean sure, but im operating under the idea he's gonna be getting consistent minutes at the 3 before long. Need doesn't equal ability, but with the current glut they got at 2/3, I'd figure they want an answer for those positions within 2 seasons.

We need depth, it's a hard market for wings who can defend wings. These guys aren't common.

 

[NoMorePie]

Who's ready to see the spurs piss everyone off and get a top 4 pick tonight?

 

[Professor K.]

Who's ready to see the spurs piss everyone off and get a top 2 pick tonight?

Fixed

Already accepted that the Hawks are somehow picking 9th

 

[CarltonJunior]

Somehow, someway, the Bulls gonna pick 7th again.