The Official 2024 NBA Draft Talk Thread

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This thread is mainly for the mock draft at this point. Shout outs to @triplehate


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1. Atlanta Hawks- Alexandre Sarr, C, France (hawks consensus)
2. Washington Wizards- Stephon Castle, G, Connecticut (wizards consensus)
3. Houston Rockets- Nikola Topic, G, Serbia @who_better_than_me
4. San Antonio Spurs- Zaccharie Risacher, F, France (Spurs consensus)
5. Detroit Pistons- Matas Buzelis, F, Ignite @FukkaPaidEmail
6. Charlotte Hornets- Reed Sheppard, G, Kentucky @42 Monks
7. Portland Trail Blazers- Donovan Clingan, C, Connecticut @Skooby
8. San Antonio Spurs- Rob Dillingham, G, Kentucky (spurs consensus)
9. Memphis Grizzlies- Dalton Knecht, F, Tennessee @triplehate
10. Utah Jazz- Cody Williams, F, Colorado @loki
11. Chicago Bulls- Zach Edey, C, Purdue @GoldenGlove
12. Oklahoma City Thunder- Kyle Filipowski, C, Duke @Loose
13. Sacramento Kings- Devin Carter, G, Providence @LezJepzin
14. Portland Trail Blazers- Tidjaune Salaun, F, France @Skooby
15. Miami Heat- Yves Missi, C, Baylor @iamduval
16. Philadelphia 76ers- Ja'Kobe Walker, G, Baylor @JoelB
17. Los Angeles Lakers- Kel'el Ware, F, Indiana @CantStop
18. Orlando Magic- Jared McCain, G, Duke @TheGreatShowtime
19. Toronto Raptors- Isaiah Collier, G, USC @Box Factory
20. Cleveland Cavaliers- Tristan Da Silva, F, Colorado @JP_614
21. New Orleans Pelicans- Tyler Smith, F, Ignite @Easy-E
22. Phoenix Suns- Tyler Kolek, G, Marquette @Redguard
23. Milwaukee Bucks- Carlton Carrington, G, Pittsburgh @Tunez
24. New York Knicks- Ryan Dunn, F, Virginia @Anerdyblackguy
25. New York Knicks- Da'Ron Holmes, F, Dayton @storyteller
26. Washington Wizards- Ron Holland, F, Ignite @FAH1223
27. Seattle Supersonics- Baylor Scheierman, F, Creighton @We Ready
28. Denver Nuggets- Bobi Klintman, F, New Zealand @T.he I.nformant
29. Utah Jazz- Johnny Furphy, F, Kansas @loki
30. Boston Celtics- Terrence Shannon Jr., G, Illinois @SchoolboyC
 
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Draft is June 26

1. Atlanta Hawks- Zaccharie Risacher, F, France #10 Lyon, France
2. Washington Wizards- Alexandre Sarr, C, Australia #20 Toulouse, France
3. Houston Rockets- Reed Sheppard, G, Kentucky $15 London, KY
4. San Antonio Spurs- Stephon Castle, G, Connecticut #5 Covington, GA
5. Detroit Pistons- Matas Buzelis, F, Ignite #13 Chicago, IL
6. Charlotte Hornets- Tidjane Salaun, F, France #31 Paris, France
7. Portland Trail Blazers- Donovan Clingan, C, Connecticut #32 Bristol, CT
8. San Antonio Spurs- Dalton Knecht, F, Tennessee #3 Thornton, CO
9. Memphis Grizzlies- Cody Williams, F, Colorado #10 Gilbert, AZ
10. Utah Jazz- Nikola Topic, G, Serbia #44 Novi Sad, Serbia
11. Chicago Bulls- Devin Carter, G, Providence #22 Doral, FL
12. Oklahoma City Thunder-Zach Edey, C, Purdue #15 Toronto, ON, Canada
13. Sacramento Kings- Kel'el Ware, F, Indiana #1 North Little Rock, AR
14. Washington Wizards - Carlton Carrington, G, Pittsburgh #7 Baltimore, MD
15. Miami Heat- Rob Dillingham, G, Kentucky #0 Hickory, NC
16. Philadelphia 76ers- Jared McCain, G, Duke #0 Sacramento, CA
17. Los Angeles Lakers- Ron Holland, F, Ignite #0 Duncanville, TX
18. Orlando Magic- Ja'Kobe Walter, G, Baylor #4 McKinney, TX
19. Toronto Raptors- Kyshawn George, F, Miami #7 Monthey, Switzerland
20. Cleveland Cavaliers- Johnny Furphy, Kansas #10 Melbourne, Australia
21. New Orleans Pelicans- Yves Missi, C, Baylor #21 Yaounde, Cameroon
22. Phoenix Suns- Ryan Dunn, F, Virginia #13 Freeport, NY
23. Milwaukee Bucks- Tristan Da Silva, F, Colorado #23 Munich, Germany
24. New York Knicks- DaRon Holmes, F, Dayton #15 Goodyear, AZ
25. New York Knicks- Isaiah Collier, G, USC #1 Marietta, GA
26. Washington Wizards- Jaylon Tyson, G, California #20 Plano, TX
27. Minnesota Timberwolves- Baylor Scheierman, F, Creighton #55 Hastings, NE
28. Denver Nuggets- Terrence Shannon, G, Illinois #0 Chicago, IL
29. Utah Jazz- Pacome Dadiet, F, Germany #1 Aubagne, France
30. Boston Celtics- Kyle Filipowski, C, Duke #30 Westtown, NY

31. Toronto Raptors- Bobi Klintman, F, Sweden #34 Malmö, Sweden
32. Utah Jazz- Tyler Kolek, G, Marquette #11 Cumberland, RI
33. Milwaukee Bucks- Tyler Smith, F, Ignite #11 Richmond, TX
34. Portland Trail Blazers- Nikola Djurisic, F, Serbia #11 Belgrade, Serbia
35. San Antonio Spurs- Justin Edwards, G, Kentucky #1 Philadelphia, PA
36. Indiana Pacers- Dillon Jones, F, Weber State #2 Columbia, SC
37. Minnesota Timberwolves- AJ Johnson, G, Australia #7 Woodland Hills, CA
38. New York Knicks- Jonathan Mogbo, F, San Francisco #10 West Palm Beach, FL
39. Memphis Grizzlies- Cameron Christie, G, Minnesota #24 Rolling Meadows, IL
40. Portland Trail Blazers- Adem Bona, C, UCLA #3 Lagos, Nigeria b/w Izmir, Turkey
41. Philadelphia 76ers- Harrison Ingram, F, North Carolina #55 Dallas, TX
42. Charlotte Hornets- Enrique Freeman, F, Akron #25 Cleveland, OH
43. Miami Heat- Kevin McCullar, F, Kansas #15 San Antonio, TX
44. Houston Rockets- Isaiah Crawford, F, Louisiana Tech #22 Fort Worth, TX
45. Sacramento Kings- Juan Nunez, G, Spain #17 Madrid, Spain
46. Los Angeles Clippers- Melvin Ajinca, F, France #0 Villeneuve-Saint-Georges, France
47. Orlando Magic- KJ Simpson, G, Colorado #2 Los Angeles, CA
48. San Antonio Spurs- Jalen Bridges, F, Baylor #12 Fairmont, WV
49. Indiana Pacers- Jamal Shead, G, Houston #1 Austin, TX
50. Indiana Pacers- Keshad Johnson, F, Arizona #16 Oakland, CA
51. Washington Wizards- Ajay Mitchell, G, UC Santa Barbara #13 Ans, Belgium
52. Golden State Warriors- Oso Ighodaro, C, Marquette #13 Chandler, AZ
53. Detroit Pistons- Jaylen Wells, G, Washington State #0 Sacramento, CA
54. Boston Celtics- Cam Spencer, G, Connecticut #12 Davidsonville, MD
55. Los Angeles Lakers- Bronny James, G, USC #6 Los Angeles, CA
56. Denver Nuggets- Antonio Reeves, G, Kentucky #12 Chicago, IL
57. Memphis Grizzlies- Ulrich Chomche, C, Cameroon #14 Bafang, Cameroon
58. Dallas Mavericks- Pelle Larsson, G, Arizona #3 Nacka, Sweden




EDIT: Updated 2nd round mock

31. Toronto Raptors- Tyler Kolek, G, Marquette #11 Cumberland, RI
32. Utah Jazz- Kyle Filipowski, C, Duke #30 Westtown, NY
33. Milwaukee Bucks- Tyler Smith, F, Ignite #11 Richmond, TX
34. Portland Trail Blazers- Johnny Furphy, Kansas #10 Melbourne, Australia
35. San Antonio Spurs- Juan Nunez, G, Spain #17 Madrid, Spain
36. Indiana Pacers- Adem Bona, C, UCLA #3 Lagos, Nigeria b/w Izmir, Turkey
37. Detroit Pistons- Enrique Freeman, F, Akron #25 Cleveland, OH
38. New York Knicks- Jonathan Mogbo, F, San Francisco #10 West Palm Beach, FL
39. Memphis Grizzlies- Cameron Christie, G, Minnesota #24 Rolling Meadows, IL
40. Portland Trail Blazers- Jaylen Wells, G, Washington State #0 Sacramento, CA
41. Philadelphia 76ers- Harrison Ingram, F, North Carolina #55 Dallas, TX
42. Charlotte Hornets- Bobi Klintman, F, Sweden #34 Malmö, Sweden
43. Miami Heat- Jamal Shead, G, Houston #1 Austin, TX
44. Atlanta Hawks- Ulrich Chomche, C, Cameroon #14 Bafang, Cameroon
45. Toronto Raptors- Tristen Newton, G, Connecticut #2 El Paso, TX
46. Los Angeles Clippers- KJ Simpson, G, Colorado #2 Los Angeles, CA
47. Orlando Magic- Nikola Djurisic, F, Serbia #11 Belgrade, Serbia
48. San Antonio Spurs- Justin Edwards, G, Kentucky #1 Philadelphia, PA
49. Indiana Pacers- Melvin Ajinca, F, France #0 Villeneuve-Saint-Georges, France
50. Indiana Pacers- Ajay Mitchell, G, UC Santa Barbara #13 Ans, Belgium
51. New York Knicks- Antonio Reeves, G, Kentucky #12 Chicago, IL
52. Oklahoma City Thunder- Oso Ighodaro, C, Marquette #13 Chandler, AZ
53. Minnesota Timberwolves- Cam Spencer, G, Connecticut #12 Davidsonville, MD
54. Boston Celtics- Keshad Johnson, F, Arizona #16 Oakland, CA
55. Los Angeles Lakers- Bronny James, G, USC #6 Los Angeles, CA
56. Phoenix Suns- Kevin McCullar, F, Kansas #15 San Antonio, TX
57. Memphis Grizzlies- Pelle Larsson, G, Arizona #3 Nacka, Sweden
58. Dallas Mavericks- Jalen Bridges, F, Baylor #12 Fairmont, WV
 
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Who do ya'll like at #2?

My board

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I am NOT taking Clingan!

Mocks have us taking Risacher... and I'm not sure.


Having crunched at least preliminary numbers on this year’s draft prospects, I have finally come around to the oft-repeated claim that this year’s class is weak. I’ve been dubious, in part because of my stat-based system (dubbed Ye Olde Draft Analyzer, YODA for short) would seem to think a few guys would break out and become stars.

This year? Not so much.

There’s more work to be done, but currently Alex Sarr, a French citizen who played professionally in Australia last season, sits atop the rankings. His score in YODA is consistent with the type of player who’d typically rank sixth through eighth.

Up and down the draft, I have questions. Like, why is Zaccarie Risacher, rated so high? He’s tall and agile, but his production doesn’t jump off the spreadsheet. When some fans on Twitter were comping him to players like Keegan Murray and Otto Porter, I ran him through the YODA version of my statistical doppelganger machine. And came up with Kevin Knox.

Is Purdue’s Zach Edey really too slow to be an effective NBA player? I mean, I get how he looks out there, but his lane agility time at the combine was middle of the pack among all players, and was better than a number of guards and wings. His lane agility time was faster than the times of players like Rudy Gobert (by 1.66 seconds, which is a wide margin in this drill), Kawhi Leonard, Daniel Gafford, Julus Randle, Bobby Portis, Tyus Jones, Gary Payton II, Pascal Siakam, Terance Mann, and Nick Richards. He just beat the time posted by Immanuel Quickley (by two 100ths of a second),

Now, his sprint time was fourth slowest at the combine, which could matter in transition. It’s also faster than Gobert ran, and either faster or about the same as guys like Steven Adams, Kelly Olynyk, Siakam, and Naz Reid. I’m not saying Edey is going to be a good NBA player. But if he fails, I don’t think it’ll be because he’s too slow.

In most years, YODA has some disagreements with the consensus view. Sometimes YODA is correct (Tyrese Haliburton) and sometimes not (Jaylen Brown) but never quite to this degree. At this point, five of the players considered to be top 12 picks have scores typically in the range of 2nd rounders or undrafted free agents. This incudes Risacher, Ja’Kobe Walter, Tidjane Salaun, Cody Williams, and Dalton Knecht.

If the scores hold up as I continue researching, YODA would have just 17 players with first round grades — the lowest number since I started doing this in 2010. It’s as if this year’s draft class is missing the top 5-7 prospects in a normal draft. And contrary to what some draft analysts have been saying, YODA doesn’t see much depth either.

We’ll see, of course. Even weak drafts produce some good players, and good players sometimes emerge from prospects who seem less than impressive at the evaluation stage. (By the way, Nikola Jokic is not one of these, at least for me. A couple years ago, I ran him through YODA using only information available at the time — including dings for being slow, ground-bound, and overweight — and he still rated like a top five pick in nearly any draft.)

Anyway, my 75% finished trip through YODA suggests it is indeed a weak draft, especially at the top. The bright side of picking second overall is that the Wizards will have lots of options. The downside: the options aren’t that great this year. Such is life for this franchise.

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I’m torn

I love Castle’s defense

But I don’t buy his shot

And then there’s Reed Sheppard



And he got tons of steals

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They have a couple of full games of Kentucky ncaa run. I watched a few game and his defense is terrible. Pick n roll defense looked worse than Lillard. I watch a couple game videos on YT, and those steals/blocks are misleading ppl into believing him to be a good defender. Hes has solid instincts on defense but he oversells and gambles. He constantly left his assignment wide open by wondering to help. So much that it became bothersome to watch. Hes a complete liability when the opponent sets screens and is barbecue chicken in PnR's, and gets easily blown by just about every time his man decides to attack him.

I had Topic over him because I believe in the bpa model when in The high lottery. I also had Castle ahead of him but after the talk of him not wanting to go anywhere he can’t start as of, I’ll pass
 

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They have a couple of full games of Kentucky ncaa run. I watched a few game and his defense is terrible. Pick n roll defense looked worse than Lillard. I watch a couple game videos on YT, and those steals/blocks are misleading ppl into believing him to be a good defender. Hes has solid instincts on defense but he oversells and gambles. He constantly left his assignment wide open by wondering to help. So much that it became bothersome to watch. Hes a complete liability when the opponent sets screens and is barbecue chicken in PnR's, and gets easily blown by just about every time his man decides to attack him.

I had Topic over him because I believe in the bpa model when in The high lottery. I also had Castle ahead of him but after the talk of him not wanting to go anywhere he can’t start as of, I’ll pass

I’m leaning Topic or Castle for the Wizards

I don’t like the Risacher hype.
 
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