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[Black_Jesus]

Maybe he didnt want to let the cat out the bag that his team and Serg were actively negotiating, just like the Donaire and Mares negotiations had a confidentiality clause, which wasnt supposed to be released to the public and you see the way that potential big fight turned to shyt after the contract and such. Learn some shyt about boxing and negotiations, only Manny bytch ass negotiate to the public when he's pump faking and trying to save face.


Why dont you post Manny reaction, when reporters questioned him regarding Serg calling him out, or videos of Manny acting like he dont know who Sergio Martinez is

Manny Pacquiao Watches Sergio Martinez's Calling out of him after his fight. - YouTube




Bottom Line Sergio dont want it and never wanted it, you know damn well I could play this game all day

Maybe he a bytch ass nikka like I been saying.... I know you aint trying to hear that though... you're in denial....
They asked this duck about a fight with Martinez at 154 and his response was that Serg should move up to 168 and fight some bum ass nikka name Andre Direll...

Im sorry I just cant concur with your faggity ass logic bout these "secret" negotiations taking place when Floydie is telling us straight out his mouth he don't want the fight...


That shyt with Donaire and Mares was just another example of GB deliberately trying to sabotage any possibility of a relationship with Top Rank... that and trying to make it look like to Abner that they tried...
Posting a contract full of blanks online?? Where they do that at?




We can definitely play this game all day... you have no argument. .. just a bunch of theories.... oh and randomly bringing up what pac did or didn't, which has shyt to do with anything being discussed here

 

[Skip b]

I don't see how you make the leap to Sergio ducking Floyd. He has a 3 fight deal with HBO and Floyd is locked in at Showtime...those two networks are never going to come together because they are just as rigid as the promoters in the sport are so a fight between the two is not a possibility in the forseeable future.

Only 3 fights........... with Sergio picking on random bums he could be free to fight Floyd by years end, he completely took Floyd off the table and why is that, yall need to stop making weak ass excuses. Sergio is a good dude, and does a ton for his fans, but I call it like I see it, he dont want it, no parts of it and never did

 

[Skip b]

Maybe he a bytch ass nikka like I been saying.... I know you aint trying to hear that though... you're in denial....
They asked this duck about a fight with Martinez at 154 and his response was that Serg should move up to 168 and fight some bum ass nikka name Andre Direll...

Im sorry I just cant concur with your faggity ass logic bout these "secret" negotiations taking place when Floydie is telling us straight out his mouth he don't want the fight...


That shyt with Donaire and Mares was just another example of GB deliberately trying to sabotage any possibility of a relationship with Top Rank... that and trying to make it look like to Abner that they tried...
Posting a contract full of blanks online?? Where they do that at?

So Sergio cant move up and face a fighter, but wants to call out a fighter 2 divisions below him, Floyd was just trying to convey that same sentiment, he has 154 fighters in his Mayweather Promotions stable why not say Henry(RIP), or Smith, Floyd is more calculated than people think


Bottom line is Sergio took Floyd off the table and is hiding behind HBO, while HBO keep mentioning him as a potential Floyd opponent on fight game and such, it's a bytch ass move

 

[Jello Biafra]

Only 3 fights........... with Sergio picking on random bums he could be free to fight Floyd by years end, he completely took Floyd off the table and why is that, yall need to stop making weak ass excuses. Sergio is a good dude, and does a ton for his fans, but I call it like I see it, he dont want it, no parts of it and never did

But with a period of 6-8 months in between fights and not being aware of what Floyd's fight schedule is going to look like under his Showtime contract and not having any inclination from either side that they would be amenable to negotiations it is feasible to make the statement that the possibility of a fight with Mayweather is not going to happen anytime soon. I just don't see how that can be taken as his not wanting to fight Floyd.

 

[Black_Jesus]

So Sergio cant move up and face a fighter, but wants to call out a fighter 2 divisions below him, Floyd was just trying to convey that same sentiment, he has 154 fighters in his Mayweather Promotions stable why not say Henry(RIP), or Smith, Floyd is more calculated than people think


Bottom line is Sergio took Floyd off the table and is hiding behind HBO, while HBO keep mentioning him as a potential Floyd opponent on fight game and such, it's a bytch ass move

He coulda went up to 168, but if he did how would he ever be able to make it back to 154 to fight Floyd at his age... Floyd saying Martinez should go to 168 is equivalent to saying I don't want the fight... The duck was scared.. why cant you see that??


Mayweather Martinez was the biggesr fight he coulda made besides a fight with Pac and you're talking bout Henry?? Smith??

 

[Skip b]

He coulda went up to 168, but if he did how would he ever be able to make it back to 154 to fight Floyd at his age... Floyd saying Martinez should go to 168 is equivalent to saying I don't want the fight... The duck was scared.. why cant you see that??


Mayweather Martinez was the biggesr fight he coulda made besides a fight with Pac and you're talking bout Henry?? Smith??

So Floyd and Serg is one of the biggest fights there to be made, and he's talking about loyalty to HBO, and taking floyd off the table, when after his soft touch he has 2 more fights left with HBO

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

Floyd never needed to fight Martinez. That would have wrecked his body to go up that high. The tale of Roy Jones is all I need to see with a dominant person going up then trying to come back down. Odds are strong that it doesn't work coming back down.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Floyd the only nikka I kno that can "duck" a MW as a 36 yr old Welterweight

Martinez ain't fight at 154 in how long?? What does beating a drained 40 yr old do??? Maravilla vs Floyd don't mean shyt unless its at MW

Neither is ducking each other stop it

 

[Skip b]

But with a period of 6-8 months in between fights and not being aware of what Floyd's fight schedule is going to look like under his Showtime contract and not having any inclination from either side that they would be amenable to negotiations it is feasible to make the statement that the possibility of a fight with Mayweather is not going to happen anytime soon. I just don't see how that can be taken as his not wanting to fight Floyd.

But but but


He is taking the biggest money fight off the table completely, and you say you dont see how that can be taken as he don't want to fight Floyd. Serg was damn near begging for the match saying he would drain to 150 and all even though he wouldn't go down to 154 to campaign

Sergio can hide behind HBO and yall make excuses like his 3 fights(1 which is booked) is gonna take him 4 years, but Floyd ask for a simple drug test he scared he a bytch, he's ducking, void is void and all of that

 

[Black_Jesus]

So Floyd and Serg is one of the biggest fights there to be made, and he's talking about loyalty to HBO, and taking floyd off the table, when after his soft touch he has 2 more fights left with HBO

Floyd missed that opportunity.... all that was after Floyd said Martinez should move up to 168...

 

[Skip b]

Floyd the only nikka I kno that can "duck" a MW as a 36 yr old Welterweight

Martinez ain't fight at 154 in how long?? What does beating a drained 40 yr old do??? Maravilla vs Floyd don't mean shyt unless its at MW

Neither is ducking each other stop it

IDK Sergio with his history of cherry picks and all, him begging for a match, and then him taking the biggest payday off the table hiding behind HBo aint looking good for him. He would have been better off saying he can't make 154 like we all knew like 4 years ago.


SN:Yall seen Sergio training videos dude looks like shyt, he looks heavy and slow as fukk, hopefully he aint half assing it, even though I dont like his blatant ducking and cherry picking, Serg is truly a good dude

Entrenamiento 2 SD - YouTube

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

The way I see it Martinez was Thirsty for a money fight N he called out Floyd N

Along came Chavez Jr N Martinez got paid... I haven't heard shyt bout Martinez wanting Floyd since

The whole HBO vs Showtime excuse is goin be used a lot now y'all should get used to it

 

[surv2syn]

Floyd never needed to fight Martinez. That would have wrecked his body to go up that high. The tale of Roy Jones is all I need to see with a dominant person going up then trying to come back down. Odds are strong that it doesn't work coming back down.

Its not the going up....its the coming back down thats the problem. It can be done more effectively when you are young and your metabolism is high. Also you must take the weight off over time. After all the years of brilliant moves, Roy made that one critical mistake. He also did it the wrong way. Look at Roy at the Ruiz post-fight and 3 months later at Tarver weigh in. Lost all muscle.

Bernard however, is much smarter. He once he left MW, it was for good. He settled in at 175....he will not go any lower. I ruins your reflexes and athleticism if you are beyond a certain age. Look at when Byrd came back to LHW. He looked like a

Anyone thinking FMJ should go beyond his highest comfortable weight...which is about 150 is really asking too much and just being unreasonable. Although I dont doubt he could be successful at 160....he could NEVER return to the lower weights under any circumstances or he'd be asking for a beating.

 

[surv2syn]

The way I see it Martinez was Thirsty for a money fight N he called out Floyd N

Along came Chavez Jr N Martinez got paid... I haven't heard shyt bout Martinez wanting Floyd since

The whole HBO vs Showtime excuse is goin be used a lot now y'all should get used to it

If Martinez wants to fight the biggest PPV draw in the game, he needs to come to 152...thats right...52 not 54. Doesnt sound fair, but its just as fair as FMJ going to 160. If he wants $10 mil payday, he would do it. I would.

 

[Skip b]

If Martinez wants to fight the biggest PPV draw in the game, he needs to come to 152...thats right...52 not 54. Doesnt sound fair, but its just as fair as FMJ going to 160. If he wants $10 mil payday, he would do it. I would.

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