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the fukk?:what: so much fukkery with the titles...nikkas dont want lucas as a champ :smh:..it's terrible

Imagine if Matthysse will win, so imagine he gains the IBF title then goes to unify with likely Garcia and is forced to drop the IBF title, that leaves it vacant and very possible for Top Rank to get two of their fighters fighting for it. GBP want to keep their 140 titles laid out in their stable. Having too many titles in one fighter's hands, is putting too many eggs in one basket.
 

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Imagine if Matthysse will win, so imagine he gains the IBF title then goes to unify with likely Garcia and is forced to drop the IBF title, that leaves it vacant and very possible for Top Rank to get two of their fighters fighting for it. GBP want to keep their 140 titles laid out in their stable. Having too many titles in one fighter's hands, is putting too many eggs in one basket.

there seems to be some confusion....I dont know if people realize that an interim title is indeed viewed as a legitimate title. if Matthysee loses, he will still fight for the IBF because the winner of Garcia-Peterson would have to drop a belt. As things stand, if Peterson were to win and fight Garcia....one of them would surely drop the IBF, meanwhile Matthysee would still be interim WBC champ and have a chance to fight for the vacant IBF....so its a win/win even if he loses. :pachaha:

If Matthysse wins, he will fight the winner of Garcia-Judah anyway, the winner will drop the WBA if they havent done so by the time of the fight....leaving that belt as a vacant so Peterson can go for it. The guy who has won 2 fights by that time will face Khan with just the WBC being on the line. Whoever loses...will fight for the WBA title if Peterson hasnt picked it up by then. If its Khan that loses, he will fight for the vacant WBA....likely against Peterson if he doesnt have it already.

This tourney and the CW is GB way of manipulating the rankings and recycling guys at 140. Also, if Peterson loses, he could fight the winner of Alexander-Brook for IBF WW title. The options are endless. Basically any loses in this series wont mean much especially if they are close fights. GBP are trying to con the general public....but they cant fool us.
 

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I think Rigo has a shot. @yoyoyo1 what are the odds for Rigo winning, I'm about to drop a stack on him :birdman:

Donaire was -210 Rigo +175 but now more money has come in on Donaire

it stands Donaire -250 Rigo +210

will put it up wed/thurs when they have all the KO props
 
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in my previous post I neglected the fact that Peterson will be IBF champ regardless so if he loses to Matthysse he still will have a title fight in the interim. he definitely can fight for the IBF WW title since GB controls that title too at the moment. someone did that recently...in the past 3 or 4 years...cant remember who but they held the IBF in one division and fought for it in the next division up. they won and vacated. I believe it happened in another sanctioning body as well where they had their titlist at one weight fight for the title at the next highest weight.
 

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Donaire was -210 Rigo +175 but now more money has come in on Donaire

it stands Donaire -250 Rigo +210

will put it up wed/thurs when they have all the KO props

I dont like this fight as a betting fight. I will sit this one out because they odds arent good enough on Rigo for me to jump in. +350 and we can talk.
 

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This is pretty much the WBC WBA N IBF fault not letting fighters unify anymore:rudy:

At the end of the day it doesn't really matter to me....we getting good fights N crowning the boss of all bosses at 140:smugdraper:

GBP put they fighters in tough match ups N jus watching out for em now making sure they still got options win or lose:salute:
 

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This is pretty much the WBC WBA N IBF fault not letting fighters unify anymore:rudy:

At the end of the day it doesn't really matter to me....we getting good fights N crowning the boss of all bosses at 140:smugdraper:

GBP put they fighters in tough match ups N jus watching out for em now making sure they still got options win or lose:salute:

yes, to hell with the sanctioning bodies. corrupt as shyt. however, it does matter to me, because while we are getting good fights, this type of practice causes gaps and lack of consistency because other good fights cant be made and good fighters get frozen out. we dont get a steady, consistent stream of good fights. instead you get horrible mandatory defenses and lopsided "championship fights"

the CW is all political, but it proves that promoters have too much power. I dont like the fact that a promotional group can control weight divisions with belts. the No-Unification rule should be the straw that breaks the camel's back in terms of abolishing these alphabets.
 

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[ame=http://youtu.be/A_iDGFqDPGQ]DANNY GARCIA: BRONER WANTS THIS BELT THEN WE HAVE A FIGHT - YouTube[/ame]

The Garcia's speaking on Broner

Aiight then we got a fight then:heh:

I got this trust me....I'm too big for him:shaq:

Angel Garcia speaking on women's :lolbron: Ionno how some of y'all don't like dude
 

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If this don't make you a Peter Quillen fan...

:ufdup: you ain't a got a soul
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtjuK6Lal2o&sns=em"]Peter "Kid Chocolate" Quillin | The Brink - YouTube[/ame]







My nikka Kid Chocolate sitting in Broner's shadow right now, but don't sleep on the homie. We need more smart boxer like this

Dropping that subtle Broner ether too :obama:
 
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If this don't make you a Peter Quillen fan...

:ufdup: you ain't a got a soul
Peter "Kid Chocolate" Quillin | The Brink - YouTube







My nikka Kid Chocolate sitting in Broner's shadow right now, but don't sleep on the homie. We need more smart boxer like this

Dropping that subtle Broner ether too :obama:
KId chocolate says fernando guerrero made a mistake fighting him -EsNews Boxing - YouTube

I already liked the boy before I saw this but props for the vid. he has character in the ring. he is a humble dude and I hope he stays that way and avoids the pitfalls (shady promoters/managers, smuts, leeches, etc) if so he will be just fine.
 
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I wrote a story about the sad state of Shane Mosley. What do you guys think of Mosley in this day and age.
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I don’t enjoy watching guys I grew up admiring stumble through the exit door and wind up in the gutter. Yet here we are—“Sugar” Shane Mosely will be returning to the ring at 41. His retirement status has oscillated before, but he’s been wise enough not to fight since losing to Golden Boy Promotions’ latest moneymaker, Canelo Alvarez in February 2012.

This comeback feels wrong. When I saw him five months ago at the opening of a West Oakland boxing gym, Champ Nation, Mosley sat in the corner of the gym behind a desk that looked plucked from a grade school classroom. He was no longer the smiling, fearless lightweight that dominated his era. He looked more mature and donned glasses as he signed autographs. His human grace was powerful: a fighter who seemingly fought anyone for the love of his fans was kind and accessible to the ones he gave it all for. Then there was worrisome part—Mosley’s slurred speech. I thought about those reflexes that appeared to be gone after his poor performance against Manny Pacquiao two years ago.

Mosley’s been training in Big Bear, California with top fighters like Kendall ****, but training is one thing and a fight is another. Here is one of the leaked sparring sessions that shows Mosley back in action with Gennady Golovkin in Big Bear.



As you can see in the video, Mosley has his moments, but sparring is soft practice and the holding that occurred won’t happen as much in a prime time fight due to head butts, elbows, or point deductions.

Another bit that makes me equally sad is the fact that Mosley has not won a fight in five years since beating Antonio Maragrito in January ’09. It was the one where Margarito was subsequently caught by Mosley trainer, Nazm Richardson, putting plaster in his hand wraps.

Mosley gave Floyd Mayweather his toughest round in a great while when he caught him with a straight right, but after this burst of glory Mosley’s career trajectory got weird. He was never in the Pacquiao fight despite the fact that a Pacquiao slip was called a knockdown. Against Sergio Mora, Mosley put up a weak effort that resulted in a majority draw with the international broadcasters believing Mora had won and the HBO crew thinking Mosley did. As has become a staple of Mosley bouts, he didn’t do enough to win the fight outright and embarrassingly, that one was a Pay Per View main event.

You would think after such recent paydays—three Pay Per View fights, two of them against the biggest draws in the sport, plus a fight against Golden Boy’s next star—Mosley would have been able to save some of his dough. But he doesn’t seem to have any interest in leaving the sport. If he’s just fighting for the love of boxing, someone needs to talk with him. His worn body is struggling to hold up and we’re at the point where damage gets irreversible. Even the most casual boxing fan knows Sugar Shane. He could just as easily promote fights under a “Mosley Promotions” banner not unlike Miguel Cotto, Mayweather, Juan Manuel Marquez.

This brings me to Mosley’s next opponent, though it might be fair to say opponents. Mosley will be fighting in Mexico against Pablo Cesar Cano, a man that many thought defeated Paulie Malignaggi last October in Brooklyn. Mosley vs. Malignaggi was looking to be made as an IBF 147 lb fight until the backlash from fans was so strong the match up was canned. It wasn’t seen as a far fight, and people knew it’d be an ugly one.

Cano is a young fighter, and he’s essentially been jobbed out of his past major network appearances. He fought Erik Morales for the WBC 140 title only to lose the fight due to a cut over his eye, but fared well enough to get a fight against Malignaggi.

It is not just that Cano is tough and the type of guy who could retire Mosley and jeopardize the rest of his future, it’s that no major American networks want the fight. The fight will air on Telefutra or perhaps Solo Boxeo, which, if you are not a Mexican fighter with a large following, means you are just trying to build yourself up for something bigger. For Mosley this is a major step down. What once made him great leaves me in fear—the man who would fight anyone at the drop of a dime is now still willing to fight anyone well past his prime.
 
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