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Hunter makes a great point

Besides a good steady paycheck, Matchroom hasn't done much for American fighters. Farmer profile never got raised and we're practically reliving Andrade's 154 run right now at 160.

If Hearn is to takeover the US with boxing, he gotta raise somebody's stock over here.
Hasn't done shyt for Haney either, dude got boxed out of the "real" WBC title cuz Top Rank went to the WBC Convention to politrick while Hearn was running his mouth to the media doing nothing.
 

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Hunter makes a great point

Besides a good steady paycheck, Matchroom hasn't done much for American fighters. Farmer profile never got raised and we're practically reliving Andrade's 154 run right now at 160.

If Hearn is to takeover the US with boxing, he gotta raise somebody's stock over here.

add to the fact his fighters have been career mode glitching left and right :dead: ..which have made for entertaining fights but you can't grow into a market with shyt like that happening :heh:
 

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You guys are both right and wrong too.

It can't be ignored how DAZN and with it Matchroom became a global presence on a way PBC and TR so far couldn't and that the boxing world got bigger since the 90s with the US not the be all end all anymore so it's even more important to be present elsewhere too.

At the same time true that Eddie has struggled to set up a good US roster and the US market is still the biggest one even if not by the distance it once was and while Matchroom has AJ who is at worst the 2nd biggest name of this generation, it's a bit of a stretch to include Canelo to their roster now that Canelo's 2 fight deal is up with them. I know that he thinks Hearn the friendliest out of Arum, Haymon, DLH and Hearn but wouldn't call him a Matchroom fighter as of now.

So you are all right and wrong at the same time

All that matters is numbers and the money not where it’s from. The Saudi deal Eddie secured but Fury pulled out of was gonna be the biggest site deal in history.

If we were talking solely U.S you wouldn’t say Matchroom are far ahead of the pack, but globally they are and that’s what I’m talking about, as a whole not just one country.

I don’t really think Canelo is a stretch, Canelo has said Eddie Hearn and Matchroom are by far the best and he’s one of the top 2 stars in boxing. He’s also said he wants to continue with Eddie and they’ve just done a partnership to do Mexican shows together. He’s with Eddie now, he works with a number of fighters without contracts or short term ones. Going forward he’s going to be working with Eddie and Matchroom and DAZN is more dependent on who he’s fighting but that’s Canelo’s team now. If the Plant fight doesn’t happen next it will be Bivol or GGG or someone like that on DAZN with Matchroom and even if it’s Plant on PBC Eddie is still involved.

So Matchroom have the biggest U.K and U.S star that are consistently active. They have a deal coming with BBC too that is a free channel in U.K, which will help get them more exposure and Eddie himself has just done a direct deal with some of the big social media platforms like IG.

Edit: Think this was one of the quotes from Canelo..

“The idea is to continue to work with Eddie Hearn for a very long time. He is the best promoter in the world, by far,” said Alvarez to TV Azteca (H/T to BoxingScene.com). “I love working with him because he is a promoter who cares about even the little details, which makes everything much better. He never has a problem with his fighters and he listens to the wishes of his fighters. It is great to finally work with this type of promoter. It is true we signed a two-fight deal, for February and May [vs. Avni Yildirim and Billy Joe Saunders]. I like this way of working, and Eddie is happy to continue with this too [to work on one and two-flight deals].

Canelo Alvarez: ‘Eddie Hearn is the best promoter in the world by far’ - MMA - TheMacLife
 
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If Hearn plans on taking over America he needs to bring back Joshua and put Haney and Andrade on the undercard against legit opps.

All he did with the first Ruiz fight was just bring his UK fighters over here only for them to lose and get 2 gifts.

and it was a fire card..perfect example of the glitching

speaking of that..we was talking about fighters getting released all willy nilly the other day...hearn needs to get rid of that big chinese cat zhang...trying to build him as a foe for joshua and was gifted a jobber only to go life and death in the ring and out of it afterwards because it taxed his body to organ failure...he would have been gone ASAP
 

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and it was a fire card..perfect example of the glitching

speaking of that..we was talking about fighters getting released all willy nilly the other day...hearn needs to get rid of that big chinese cat zhang...trying to build him as a foe for joshua and was gifted a jobber only to go life and death in the ring and out of it afterwards because it taxed his body to organ failure...he would have been gone ASAP

facts, shyt was one of the best cards that year.

wasn't that Zhang fight in Miami too.

Hearn better stay away from American soil :mjlol:
 

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I just knew we were getting Ugas vs Thurman, don't ask me how

instead we got Victor Ortiz vs Guerrerro lol :francis: :mjlol: as if people were going to be like Ortiz vs Ghost :mjgrin:sign me up

they wild for that
I knew we weren't because Thurman said on his IG Live he heard Ugas was looking elsewhere.

Ugas did what we all thought he would from the start: took an easy touch to keep himself in the front of the line for a unification between the Spence/Pacquiao winner
 

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I knew we weren't because Thurman said on his IG Live he heard Ugas was looking elsewhere.

Ugas did what we all thought he would from the start: took an easy touch to keep himself in the front of the line for a unification between the Spence/Pacquiao winner
I knew we weren't because Thurman said on his IG Live he heard Ugas was looking elsewhere.

Ugas did what we all thought he would from the start: took an easy touch to keep himself in the front of the line for a unification between the Spence/Pacquiao winner

the rare occasion where the WBA did the right thing but it ended up all wrong :gucci:
 

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I knew we weren't because Thurman said on his IG Live he heard Ugas was looking elsewhere.

Ugas did what we all thought he would from the start: took an easy touch to keep himself in the front of the line for a unification between the Spence/Pacquiao winner

:scust: Ugas out here trying to to strategize his way into megafight by taking easy touches..cant say I'm 100% mad...still :ufdup: ain't nobody trying to watch you on PPV doing that

And here I was thinking One Time was waiting around to fight either Spence or Crawford or no one at all smh and it was Ugas all along
 
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