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I like Uysk and would say hes a legit ATG but people calling him the legit greatest heavyweight of all time are doing way too much.
It's more an 'on paper' proposition. If you break down his achievements he doesn't really have a peer in the sport tbh, but thats on paper, which isn't necessarily reflective of general consensus.
 

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It's more an 'on paper' proposition. If you break down his achievements he doesn't really have a peer in the sport tbh, but thats on paper, which isn't necessarily reflective of general consensus.

"Doesn't have a peer in this sport"

You mean all time, or just in this era? Because if we talking about All Time... Holyfield achieved the exact same thing. And Micheal Spinks was damn close as well
 

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"Doesn't have a peer in this sport"

You mean all time, or just in this era? Because if we talking about All Time... Holyfield achieved the exact same thing. And Micheal Spinks was damn close as well
On paper Usyk has the most accomplishments of any boxer. That's just what it is. I'm not saying he's the best boxer, but his amateur career and pro career is the most accomplished as far as medals, trophies and belts in amateur and pro.
 

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On paper Usyk has the most accomplishments of any boxer. That's just what it is. I'm not saying he's the best boxer, but his amateur career and pro career is the most accomplished as far as medals, trophies and belts in amateur and pro.


You keep repeating it with no explanation. And adding amateur records are hilarious considering plenty of heavyweights won Gold medals

Go ahead, list these accomplishments that separate Usyk from everyone else
 

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On paper Usyk has the most accomplishments of any boxer. That's just what it is. I'm not saying he's the best boxer, but his amateur career and pro career is the most accomplished as far as medals, trophies and belts in amateur and pro.
Amateur boxing is a whole different sport, I never understand when folks try to lump it together with the pro game like we should look at these accomplishments together. It’s mostly Loma stans nowadays who do this for known reasons.

Usyk was both a great amareur and pro, that should be enough.
 

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Amateur boxing is a whole different sport, I never understand when folks try to lump it together with the pro game like we should look at these accomplishments together. It’s mostly Loma stans nowadays who do this for known reasons.

Usyk was both a great amareur and pro, that should be enough.
Sure, that's a valid point, I dont really give a fukk either way tbh, but for the sake of the conversation regarding Usyk and all time status etc, on paper he has the best resume in a long career of pro and amateur and accomplishments.

I don't really know what else to say, im not trying to embellish it, nor am I trying to diminish it? But it's hard to argue against it?
 

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