manny ran from the biggest fight in the history of the world over drug testing he's clearly guilty. fakkit turned down 40 million gurantted when he was clearly the B side AND doesnt even make more than 20 guranteed 
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LeVraiPapi
Redemption is Coming
Paulie really hates Manny. Does this have to do with Pac not fighting him over at HBO at the time ?manny ran from the biggest fight in the history of the world over drug testing he's clearly guilty. fakkit turned down 40 million gurantted when he was clearly the B side AND doesnt even make more than 20 guranteed
sicilians dont like rats.
krackdagawd
Inspire.
Hopefully it has a strong undercard.
Black_Jesus
Superstar
At the time Floyd wasn't no A side you dumb ass bytch, him and Pac were avging around the same ppv numbers.. If Floyd really felt he was the A side he would've demanded a 60/40 split, not some bullshyt Flat rate payment where Floyd even turned down the $50 million guaranteed counter offer.. In all his accomplishments Floyd still never seen that much guaranteed purse $$$manny ran from the biggest fight in the history of the world over drug testing he's clearly guilty. fakkit turned down 40 million gurantted when he was clearly the B side AND doesnt even make more than 20 guranteed
JMM at his highest point? Why cuz he slept Manny...a guy who is clearly past his prime?
JMM was and always will be best as a FW. Just because he made more money and fought bigger names at 147 dont make him prime there. Dude is a 40 year old LW at best. Great fighter, but to me, STOPPING a good champion (a guy who beat BHop) is better than a close decision over a guy 8 years and 20lbs past him prime. and it really dont matter what Stevenson did AFTER Ward did it. but you enjoy the hype breh.
Floyd makes his own decisions? Really?:hayking:They? Floyd makes his own decisions breh. He moves when he wants to move, and how he wants to move. The ONLY surprise he could have in store for us is a Pacquiao fight. Nothing else is a "surprise" for the boxing fans. I have hope Mayweather finally steps up to the plate and tests his greatness against Pacman
JMM at his highest point? Why cuz he slept Manny...a guy who is clearly past his prime?
JMM was and always will be best as a FW. Just because he made more money and fought bigger names at 147 dont make him prime there. Dude is a 40 year old LW at best. Great fighter, but to me, STOPPING a good champion (a guy who beat BHop) is better than a close decision over a guy 8 years and 20lbs past him prime. and it really dont matter what Stevenson did AFTER Ward did it. but you enjoy the hype breh.
Once again, I was trying to explain that in the other thread about Floyd's resume
Only you and @LauderdaleBoss seem to get that point
Just because you're elite at 1 weight does NOT automatically mean you're still elite at a higher weight
quote me where I said he would run through the 140lb division. I'll wait.
its cool to stan here just as long as you dont believe the person you are stanning can beat anyone of note
fukk is the point of stanning?why are you concerned with 4 rounds in a 12 round fight? wasnt your boy almost of of the fight with Chino after the 2nd round? Gamboa aint no chump. Paulie got murked by Porter...but he aint out here masquerading
when you look at boxing, you shouldnt be looking at what happens in the first few rounds as the end all be all. Many also said Manny was on his way to stopping JMM. Was Algeri not getting fukked up by Prov??? Didnt it look like Stevenson was on his way to getting Fonfara out of there? The point is, poise and ability gets you through a 12 round fight.
Whether anyone at 140 should be nervous or not is on them but Crawford has a lot of positives to look forward to. He is not perfect though. Styles make fights and Gamboa was still undefeated and still a threat to anyone at lightweight. What I see in him is growth....not stagnation. He is getting better.
Lastly, it doesnt really matter how bad someone looked against their last opponent. It can give you some insight but its not an absolute bar of measurement. Its really subjective as hell. Trout didnt look bad against Canelo...yet Lara didnt look great against Angulo. Canelo stopped Angulo and Trout got shut out by Lara. Hell, JMM has had more problems from other fighters than he has out of Pac. What does that all mean? If just means that this is boxing....and the only way to know who does what to who is to get them in the ring with each other.
Once again, I was trying to explain that in the other thread about Floyd's resume
Only you and @LauderdaleBoss seem to get that point
Just because you're elite at 1 weight does NOT automatically mean you're still elite at a higher weight
Floyd is my dude. Not because of him personally but because of his in-ring ability only. I could care less about that other shyt. His resume does have some glorified filler in it and JMM is one of those. Plus when JMM fought him, he was not as settled in at 147 as he is now. Still Floyd beats him at any weight but if they are evenly matched....that fight is a lot closer.
Once again, I was trying to explain that in the other thread about Floyd's resume
Only you and @LauderdaleBoss seem to get that point
Just because you're elite at 1 weight does NOT automatically mean you're still elite at a higher weight
also...Dawson ruled a division, even if for a short time. JMM never ruled WW. he never ruled 140, 135, or 130. He really never ruled 126 although he was the best fighter there for a period. he has never dominated a division. when his time came to rule, he lost to Norwood, Manny and Chris John. I am only talking facts here....dont get mad.
Once again, I was trying to explain that in the other thread about Floyd's resume
Only you and @LauderdaleBoss seem to get that point
In regards to that post. I believe Mr Smoke weed was referring to Bradley beating JMM at the pinnacle of his career (after he got his biggest win) rather than his prime. We all know Bradley ain't fight a prime JMM.
After that it all comes down to opinion and what win you favor more. Bradley beating a JMM at the top of his career or Ward beating a weight drained Dawson.
I personally favor the Bradley win, because even though JMM wasn't prime he just had his biggest career win and is a future HOF. Dawson just had his biggest win, but then moved down to a division he hasn't fought at in 6 years. Dude was getting dropped by Miranda in sparring and generally looking bad leading into the fight. No excuses cuz he asked for it. Dawson was still in his prime, but the weight drain tainted that so it prolly equals out to a past prime JMM not fighting in his prime division.
paulie malignaggi is something else..ive depised him at times for the way he has acted ...i give him grudging props for having the speed and reflexes he had all these years and not getting his equilibrium sent to the bushes by better fighters than porter ...he should be happy over what he accomplished..belts in 2 divisions...but lets be real...his career is too full of struggle and no real marquee fights/wins in his career..possibly because he's looked at as a name and stepping stone most of the time has made him salty as shyt....and the consistent shade against pac...at no point of his career would he have beaten pac at any point..thats for damn sure...i think paulie knows he's looking at the end of his career since he has to now beat somebody of note at 147 in order to sniff a title shot.
