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random question.

if paul spadafora was normal(lol):russ: how good could he had been?:jbhmm:
I think damn good tbh. He was hard to read and pretty good technically. He's going on my list of could have beens along with Ibeabuchi who is a head case himself. Very talented guys but they had serious issues smh
 

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That was not the time place or opp for that

Y'all already know how I feel bout postol high level comp he is not

But imagine Floyd vs Gatti N Floyd decided "its my first ppv im levels above this bum but naaaah im not gonna go for the KO"

Money May would've never existed:why:
I agree with you 100% my breh. ''Twas very surprised watching the PPV, and see Crawford cruise to an easy decision.
 

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i know about this shyt and read, read and heard about..saw some small portions of the spar session ..Floyd came out of shape..
got in it with a dude fighting for the world championship and still managed keep up with the pace..

I think it's a testament to how good Floyd was, that dudes prop up whatever minor thing they can against him. Oh Floyd caught work in sparring from Peterson and Spadafora, oh Floyd could have lost to Maidana if the third round was four minutes, zab was beating him for 9-10 minutes etc etc. Also think it's pontificated because Floyd is a POS outside the ring. :yeshrug:

Plus, sparring is sparring, word to @krackdagawd , we don't know the context of the situation.

:mjlol: at the gym cheering for Paul after the 2nd round like he just graduated from college. The footage also cuts out before Floyd asked to quit :jbhmm:
 

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Some of you dudes are way too angry at Rousey...that shyt aint normal.

They really hate Oscar though... now that shyt aint normal.. yea he got high on cocaine and where female lingerie, but damn nikkas talk about him like he once owned slaves
 
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Crawford missed a golden opportunity to set the world on fire against Postol. Fight wasn't JMM vs Gainer level of boring, but it was boring and one-sided.

Crawford caught dude with some hard shots and buzzed him, but he never picked it up like he should have. Postol didn''t know what to do and pretty much fought scary.

Crawford needed to light his Euro ass up and call out Pac on some Thug Life shyt right afterwards. :pacspit: It's not always about the KO, but the effort involved. If cats see that you trying to really beat a nikka ass, theyll cut you some slack if dude hangs tough and goes the distance. But, if you doing the whole just enough to win routine, the audience will do just enough to stay up and watch. nikkas will forget about that performance as soon as they walk out the arena.

scary boxing + just enough to win boxing = lame ass fights that nobody really wins. (at least the fans dont' thats for sure)
 

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Jezreel Corrales Arrives Back To Panama, Received as a Hero


WBA super featherweight champion Jezreel Corrales has arrived back home to Panama, where he was greeted by fans, family and friends.

On New Year's Eve, he proved that his big shocker earlier this year was no fluke when he picked up a twelve round split decision victory over Takashi Uchiyama at Tokyo’s Ota City General Gymnasium. The scores were 117-110, 115-112, 113-114.



Uchiyama (24-2-1) knocked Corrales down late in the fifth round though it didn’t seem to do a lot of damage to the champion. But overall, “Knockout Dynamite” had a hard time landing blows against the athletic, unorthodox fighter Corrales (21-1-0).

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“I was able to win because of all the training I did,” Corrales said through an interpreter. “I wasn’t sure I’d definitely win before the judgment paper was read. But I felt I did enough to win. Uchiyama practiced well, but I think I practiced even more than he did.”

Uchiyama seemed to adjust to the Panamanian’s speed and began landing some punches in the later rounds, but wasn’t able to hit “El Invisible” with critical blows before the bell in the final round.

“I’m disappointed, but Corrales accepted this return match and it’s all on me for coming up short,” said the 37-year-old Uchiyama, who defended his WBA super featherweight title 11 times in a row before a stunning second-round technical knockout loss to Corrales on April 27, which was arguably dubbed “the upset of the year” in the sport, at the same venue.

“He was competitive today. I felt like I had a chance later in the fight. But he used his legs moving around and I couldn’t land my punches. That’s what I have regret (about).

- See more at: Jezreel Corrales Arrives Back To Panama, Received as a Hero - Boxing News
 

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JULIAN WILLIAMS HOPES TO RUN IT BACK WITH JERMALL CHARLO SAYS TRAINER: "I KNOW I CAN BEAT HIM"
By Percy Crawford | January 03, 2017


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PC: Something I have read a lot is people saying you and Julian did too much talking leading up to this fight.

SE: That is ridiculous, man. People...it's like, ah man, we made him mad, so he wanted to beat Julian up. Who gives a shyt? It's boxing! Listen, I want to know what did Julian say other than, "What's up turkey, let's fight," or, "What's up 'Mall', I'll come to Houston." We didn't constantly badger the guy. Boxing Twitter just took it and went crazy with it. He wasn't stalking the guy; he didn't show up at his training camp or say anything bad about anything in 'Mall's' personal life. He didn't call him any derogatory terms. He called him a turkey after he won a fight and said let's fight. But how about this, Julian Williams wasn't ranked, he wasn't getting no love, and honestly, he wouldn't have been able to get this kind of fight had he not said anything. He wasn't in position to get that kind of shot. Mall was the one to get a title shot way back in 2014 while we were on FS1, so what was he supposed to say? It's amazing to me that people are criticizing the kid for stepping up to the plate and fighting a dude that's a big monster. Dude had like 16 straight knockouts and Julian Williams raised his hand and said, "I'll fight him! I'm not getting the fights that I want anyway." He should be commended for wanting to fight the best. If Julian would've waited for Al Haymon to put him in position to fight for a regular belt or a vacant title, then they would've said, "Look, Haymon just taking care of him and he fought a bum for a title. He's not a real champion." Instead, he said, "Listen, I'll fight Jermall. We both with the same people, so it should be an easy fight to make. Dude is supposed to be a killer, I'll fight him; nobody raising their hand to run into Jermall." Now, people are saying, "They should've left him alone." Well, it's boxing. How about this, Percy, Julian wants to fight him again. He told me that. He said, "I just got clipped. I know I can beat him. I'll fight him again." He's a fighter. He should be commended for wanting to fight instead of going the easy route. But the thing now is everybody needs to be right, so it's whatever.

PC: I wanted to let you address the post-fight incident as well. It appeared Julian went to congratulate Jermall and he was rejected. Ronnie spoke with Jermall and after he calmed down, he tried to come thank Julian and by that time, you guys weren't having it. What went down after the fight?

SE: I really think that too big of a deal was made out of it. The cameras was on it though and that's what happens when things like that are caught on the camera. At the end of the day, Jermall doesn't have to be a good sport. He fought a good fight, he won, and that's just that. If he don't wanna shake Julian's hand, then that's fine. Everybody turned it into this big beef or whatever and it really wasn't. The teams were around each other for 5 days in LA in the same hotel. We were all in the elevator together to go to the second day weigh-in because the IBF has a mandatory weigh-in the second day, the morning of the fight. We ate at the same restaurant. There was no beef. Nobody had to be held back or none of that kind of nonsense. All of a sudden, when the fight was over...it wasn't a big deal to me that Jermall didn't want to shake Julian's hand. I told Julian, "Look, you should've knocked him out and then you could've not shook his hand." I'm just that kind of guy. That kind of stuff don't bother me. Every dog has his day. One day Jermall might get stopped and he goes to shake somebody's hand and they blow him off. That's how it works; the game circles the block. Everybody has their day. I don't care who you are, if you stick around long enough. The only thing that bothered me was the entourage getting in the middle of it.

Everybody made it out like there was a beef. Listen, there was no beef. And the excuse that was made was, "Julian disrespected me, so I didn't want to shake his hand." Man, Julian called Jermall a turkey one time. I've heard Jermall say way worse things about other fighters that I don't even want to repeat. Some of the stuff he said about Ishe Smith years ago, come on, man, but it's no big deal. I think that Jermall was a little bit aggravated because the event staff and the people that were doing the fight, and people that were just walking around in general, they kind of was secretly pulling for Julian and Jermall could feel that. The crowd was on his side when Julian got announced. They were talking about him not losing a round in his last 10 fights and all of that kind of stuff and I think that aggravated Jermall. People were secretly coming up to us like, "Man, I think the twins are really good fighters, but for some reason, people are not crazy about those kids." A lot of people were rooting for Julian and I think Jermall felt that. I think he felt the threat level and then after the fight, his emotions got the best of him. But Julian wasn't disrespecting the kid. He wasn't calling him derogatory names and stalking him all around and that kind of stuff. The media can kind of blow things out of proportion and that was a convenient excuse at the time to not shake the kid's hand, but it never was a big deal to me. I just thought that it was kind of shytty for the entourage to get involved. That's why people are getting fines and all of that kind of stuff. There is a reason why you need a license and a credential to be in the ring. I just think that that part of the game was a little bit corny because those guys had seen us all that week and there was no trouble. We were in an elevator together and nobody was pushing and shoving.

Perc, beef is when you see somebody and you want to fight; it's on. Dude wants to run up in your house and kill your mother and your kids. That shyt got blown out of proportion and they needed a convenient excuse to act the way they did. They act like Julian was walking around and disrespecting them and bothering them, but it wasn't even that deep, man. I'm telling you, we ate at the same restaurant a table away from each other and nobody said a word to each other. It wasn't that deep. I was there all week for 5 days and it wasn't none of that. That shyt only came out after their side won the fight. It turned into, "He was disrespecting me, man, fukk him! I'm not shaking his hand," and all of his friends just went all crazy. It was just stupid, man. But like I said, that ain't no big deal. Jermall didn't have to shake Julian's hand. I guess everything was alright after the fight or whatever, but it wasn't no big deal to me. I told Julian, "Next time you clip him, if there is a next time or we fight his brother, then you can do that or if you want to shake their hand, you can. Let's see how good of a sport they wanna be if they are on the losing side." To me, it was more gloating because I've seen some fighters say some really horrible things about each other and then shake hands after a fight. To me, it was more of a gloating thing. It's a shame, man, because I heard that Ronnie Shields got fined too and he was calming things down. He didn't have nothing to do with it. He was the one like, "Man, you won the fight. Why you acting like that?" But because of the whole entourage, he was the head guy in the corner and it kind of just trickled down to him. It was a shame. Ronnie is a good guy.


PC: I look forward to seeing the comeback and you guys back in that ring in 2017. Best of luck. Is there anything else you want to add before I let you go?

SE: We will take a little bit of time off and we will be back and see what the future holds. I'll tell you one thing, I bet it won't be so hard for him to get fights now. You know how this era is, people will want to fight now, so maybe we'll get some good fights.
 

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best i faced - joel casamayor

BEST I FACED: JOEL CASAMAYOR
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BY DOUG FISCHER

Boxing has been banned in Cuba since 1961, and few of that national’s amateur boxing standouts have managed the transition from the amateurs to the professional ranks. One of the notable successes is Joel Casamayor. He won gold at the 1992 Olympics and later became a two-weight world champion in the pros.

Casamayor was an outstanding amateur whose shining moment came when he added his name to boxing folklore in his homeland when he returned from the Barcelona Olympic Games with a gold medal.

“I was very happy when I won the gold,” Casamayor told RingTV.com through his partner Adriana Vila. “I felt really good. I was very happy. I was content with everything. I was 21 years old.”

Over the next couple of years he became disillusioned with life at home and defected on the eve of the 1996 Olympics, exiting the unpaid ranks with a record of 363-30.

“I didn’t like fighting for Cuba anymore,” he said. “I had it in my mind that I wanted to be a champion in the professionals and I couldn’t do it in Cuba. I was in Mexico; I was there for a few weeks with Ramon Garbey [A teammate on the Cuban team who won gold at the 1993 World Championships before turning pro with moderate success]. We went through the boarder from Mexico to the United States.”

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He promptly began his pro career making his debut in later that year. He wasted little time collecting his first world title inside three years. “El Cepillo” employed a slick southpaw style and sought out the best opposition available. After four successful defences (of the WBA 130-pound belt) he met fellow junior lightweight titlist Acelino Freitus.

A close battle ensued; the Brazilian was awarded the decision. Casamayor is still unimpressed.

“I feel like he was this guy who came to America and all his wins and record didn’t mean anything to me, the fight was a robbery,” he said. “He was not an exceptional fighter. Everyone thought I won the fight; he didn’t have anything special about him.”

He would appear on the Lennox Lewis-Mike Tyson Pay-Per-View undercard and later took future lightweight champ Nate Campbell’s unbeaten record. In the fall of 2003, the Cuban stylist met Diego Corrales. Both men exchanged knockdowns in a wild affair. Corrales suffered a bad cut inside his mouth and the fight was stopped at the conclusion of the sixth round.

Looking back it was a significant fight for Casamayor: “When I knocked out Diego Corrales, that was my best win.”

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They met twice more, Corrales won the rematch before Casamayor took the trilogy, winning the vacant RING and WBC lightweight belts in the process.

Casamayor also fought Jose Luis Castillo, dropping a competitive decision, in 2004. He stopped a then up-and-coming Michael Katsidis in a war and fought legendary Juan Manuel Marquez on near even terms until getting stopped in the 11th round in 2008.

He remained active for a couple more years, losing when he stepped up in quality to Robert Guerrero and Timothy Bradley. After the Bradley fight he tested positive for marijuana. He retired soon afterwards with a record of 38-6-1, 22 knockouts.

“It was the end of my career – I didn’t train good,” he said of the Bradley fight. “I was separating from my wife and had a lot of stress in my life. I wasn’t focusing on my training. I only had three weeks to train and I had to lose all the weight, I wasn’t prepared at all for that fight.”

There was one fight the he craved that never happened.

“Floyd Mayweather Jr,” he said unsurprisingly. “I wanted to show the Americans that I was better than him but Floyd never gave me the chance.”

Today Casamayor, 44, lives in Las Vegas. He trains fighters at Randy Couture’ gym “Xtreme Couture.” He is dating Adriana and has five children from previous relationships. He enjoys interacting with fans and he uses various forms of social media including Facebook: Joel “El Cepillo” Casamayor (official fan page), Twitter: @joel_casamayor1 and Instagram: @joelcasamayor

RingTV.com caught up with Casamayor and spoke with him about the best pro opponents he faced in 10 key categories.

BEST JAB
Diego Corrales:
He knew where to aim and used his jab to follow with great shots. Even though I caught him with counter punches I figured him out and outsmarted him. His reach was his advantage.

BEST DEFENSE
Jong-Kwon Baek:
The Korean guy I fought in Kansas City. I stopped him on cuts. I was just smarter than him and I hit him enough to cause the cuts that eventually stopped the fight but he had a great defensive strategy.

BEST CHIN
Jose Luis Castillo
: I thought I was hitting him with good, heavy shots but he didn’t seem to feel anything. He is naturally strong and could take a punch.

FASTEST HANDS
Robert Garcia:
Back in the day he was one of the fastest. I wouldn’t see punches coming in sometimes because he had really fast hands. He threw them with enough speed to create power. He was not the strongest guy I have faced in my career but one thing about him was his speed.

FASTEST FEET
David Chamendis:
It was on a Pernell Whitaker undercard against Wilfredo Rivera, it was my first fight in my career. It was a four rounder, it was 1996 in Miami. He was just running around the ring. I knocked him out even though I was chasing him the whole fight.

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SMARTEST
Juan Manuel Marquez:
He was a master at boxing. He came in with lots of experience. After the fight, I felt that there must have been things that I have missed practicing at training because I thought I prepared myself enough to be able to beat him. I thought I was going to win the fight but he caught me, so he outsmarted me that night and that stunned me.

STRONGEST
Michael Katsidis:
He was young and physically very strong. The ring was very small in Morongo Casino. Usually it is 20-by-20 (feet) but it was 18-by-18. He was physically very strong. Every time I would hit him, I could feel how strong he was. He had a very good physical condition.




BEST PUNCHER
Castillo:
The body shots of Castillo were out of this world. He was the best puncher, not just to the body but every punch. He knew how to throw punches. His footwork was excellent and that allowed him to be prepared and positioned to throw punches accurately.



BEST SKILLS
Castillo:
Cutting the ring off is what he was doing, meaning if I would go right, he wouldn’t follow me but step to my right to stop me from going in that same direction. That’s a strategy that is taught in boxing, and it works. His footwork was excellent, his punches were accurate. He looked really good in the fight.

BEST OVERALL
Marquez
: Juan Manuel Marquez because he was hard to figure out. I would punch and I would miss, I couldn’t catch him. He was also very strong, good on his feet, great puncher, fast and he knows the art of boxing. Marquez was very smart. His punches were accurate as well, he was crafty.
 
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