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But you also have to come to the realization that Pablo Cesar Cano had an easier time with Ashley than Danny did. Not because it was just an "ESPN fight". Speaking of which why don't you think Ashley beat Danny anyways? Can't use PEDs or "more power punches landed instead of total punches" arguments :russ:
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You're enjoying this aren't you?:mjgrin:
choc is very defensive about the robberies in danny's career.

me i think ashley beat danny but i can see a draw def not wide
the same with peterson..choc actually agreed with my score (i think it was peterson by 1) and reasoning for it..i was in the minority on that where everyone had him losing wide
however herrera handed out a thorough boxing lesson...8-4, 9-3, 10-2..it was NOT CLOSE..i also said on here before this fight that herrera wasn't no pushover and that he would show what danny really had
 

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But you also have to come to the realization that Pablo Cesar Cano had an easier time with Ashley than Danny did. Not because it was just an "ESPN fight". Speaking of which why don't you think Ashley beat Danny anyways? Can't use PEDs or "more power punches landed instead of total punches" arguments :russ:


It wasn't a hard fight to score at all...all the hard memorable punches was landed by Swift... Even the rd with the point deduction Danny Won

Like I said Teddy was shytting on Danny the whole night N still scored it for Swift...you know if it was fukkery like y'all trying to make it seem Atlas woulda lost it :martin:
 

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My reply went over your head breh...nobody was comparing Swift vs Thurman to Jrock vs Jermall as a fight

Only thing that was compared was the word easy N I brought up the posters saying JRock was easily beating Charlo

We underestimated the obvious advantages Charlo had in physicality....there aren't any physical advantages for Swift except the 1 inch height advantage. He's slower, the naturally smaller guy, shorter reach....plus Thurman is a more skilled boxer imo.:manny:



Swift has KO power with his counters thats a documented fact...N getting hit with some shyt you don't see causes them kos N Danny is great at that



You overrating Thurmans boxing ability like a muhfukker :mjlol:




Outbox Ghost N Bundu N act like hes ALI :heh:


I guarantee win or Lose... Keith would not have looked as smooth moving around as PED did

Keith Thurman's Jab is not some great weapon either...he doesn't hold like Herrera

Im sorry breh....but I don't think saying Keith Thurman is as good of a boxer as Lamont Peterson and Mauricio Herrera is "overrating Thurmans boxing ability like a muhfukker":ld:


I think he's just as good of a Boxer as they both are....but possesses more power and more speed with his punches and in his ability to escape trouble as well.:yeshrug:


The reason PED was able to avoid Swift cutting off the ring was Cuz he was on his Lara shyt N not throwing punches N thats why PED lost them rounds


Thurman can move and punch at the same time, plus he shifts direction very quickly. I don't believe Swift can cut off the ring on him like Shawn Porter did:manny:
 

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I remember you telling me there's no way anybody could give Danny 5 RDS

@Newzz rescores the fight...
"I had it 5-5" :hhh:

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Rounds

Danny Garcia: 4, 5, 7, 9, 10

Ashley Theophane: 1, 2, 3, 6, 8

Scorecard:

95-94 for Ashley Theophane due to low blow point deduction.


I gave the fight to Ashley Theophane though:sas2:
 

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choc is very defensive about the robberies in danny's career.

me i think ashley beat danny but i can see a draw def not wide
the same with peterson..choc actually agreed with my score (i think it was peterson by 1) and reasoning for it..i was in the minority on that where everyone had him losing wide
however herrera handed out a thorough boxing lesson...8-4, 9-3, 10-2..it was NOT CLOSE..i also said on here before this fight that herrera wasn't no pushover and that he would show what danny really had


I had Swift losing all 3 of those fights:manny:
 

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We've seen 2 boxers "successfully outbox" Swift

Herrera - who was outlanded by over 70 power punches N game plan was to spoil Jab N Grab

PED - who did his best Lara impersonation ...had God level Stamina...N gained 25 pounds in 24 hrs

Your opinion on who won those fights is your opinion...ain't shyt was easy tho



On to Thurman...I've said it more then once if he decides to :stylin::mj: he won't get the decision N there's goin be muhfukkers Alllllll in they feelings

The big bad Walterweight boxing cautiously against the cherry picker whose style the judges love... Them scorecards going have Swift lookin :Muhfukkingchamp:


Keith too proud for that tho...I believe 100% Angel will troll him enough combined with Keith thinking hes the real Walterweight N success he had Bombing it out with Porter he's going for the KO

Now watch that Porter fight N tell me there's not many many chances for Keith to get countered with them wide ass punches

Swift gonna go to the body N he is very underrated there...watch the Khan fight N see how them body shots changed the whole fight before the 1st kd...watch the matthysse fight N see how them body shots/low blows slowed down the machine

If Thurman chin holds up Swift 7-5

If not #swiftset goin have another highlight reel KO gif on our hands :Purge2:


Fair enough

He wasn't exactly countered by Porter though, he was pressured ad roughhoused by him and that's something Swift doesn't really do. Porter might be sloppy but he moves significantly faster than Danny and overall he has an "I don't give a fukk" bull rush approach he overwhelms his opponents by raw power and doesn't care if he gets hit during it. That can be a big disadvantage but sometimes it can be an advantage as well, against Thurman it seemed to be working even though he lost.

Garcia is a lot more stationary and methodical than Porter and he is also slower both in his feet (that's obvious) and imo also in his hand speed. Timing is Swift's main strength. He is a counter puncher while Porter is... Porter:porrter:

So I don't think we really can take that fight as a starting point give that they have a very different style and approach.


I don't say that it's impossible that Thurman will get caught by something cause his defense isn't that great but I still pick him based on the overall styles.
 

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I gave the fight to Ashley Theophane though:sas2:


Yup I member

I member the "you can't prove Swift won 6 RDS"

Then this right here
NO ONE can find 6 rounds to give Daniel Ponce De Leon like we can Ashley Theophane:umad:


All that N you only giving Ashley 5 rds :hhh:



Classic Ring fukkery :shedead:
 

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danny go to the body to often....a weakness for Thurman. wouldn't be surprised if he hurt Thurman there like porter and the other breh.
That is what I was thinking. He was tagging matthysse with good ones and slowed him down. Won't be the same with Thurman but he can put on a clinic with that
 

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SB was robbed in his own hood, he's better off "kissing through the phone"


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