Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.
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reservoirdogs
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Maybe that too
but he also gets a lot of critics cause he acted cocky as hell and that doesn't suit well for many people, me too tbh... A guy has to be very good to me to let that slide... don't want role models but some fighter's out of ring style (not certainly how sinful or innocent are they but simply the everyday behavior...) simply makes me very hard to like them. Danny, Broner, Bellew, Kovalev, May, Jermall, Fury, etc... Somebody is more sensible to that somebody's not... I admit and know that it can matter to me, there are always exceptions though
not to the extent of the other shyt he gets into...you know perfectly well when casuals go in on him its because they think hes not living to his hype/being another floydBroner doesn't get criticized for his opposition?
ChocolateGiddyUp
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Broner isn't really criticized for his opponents though... At least I didn't really read about it.
Danny also isn't criticized because of his overall resume but because eve though he fights elite opponents time to time he sometimes allows himself opponents who are joke category like Samuel Vargas or Rod Salka, those two are far worse than any current Crawford or Broner opponent, let's strike Vargas out though cause when he fought that guy they already knew the Thurman fight is done but the Salka fight is really hardly justifiable.
And they also criticize and/or hate him because he won questionably 2-3 times already while he's still unbeaten on paper... Although I see that latter one is not his fault it irks many people...
I admit that Danny get too much hate from some people and they should also give him credit...
Breh with all due respect you couldn't be more wrong
We shyt on AB opps in here all the time...muhfukkers were saying Vargas robbed khabib....AB fights him right after N khabib is a bum...I don't even fukk with AB N I
As far as Swift goes Salka was damn near 3 yrs ago
Herrera was treated like he was Salka by hating ass muhfukkers which is why you got people giving him 10 RDS
Peterson was Matthysse leftovers... Glass chin nobody wanted to see it
Malignaggi was washed another Cherry
Ghost was washed another cherry
Berto was goin be a cherry...Molina was a cherry
Do you see the trend here??
ive never liked broner...since i first saw him fight Ponce..then was disgusted even more by his lack of discipline among his other fukkery... @Newzz knows when I go in on him its not on some flip flop shyt..i dont like him lol..but i can also give him props when he does something good
reservoirdogs
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Breh with all due respect you couldn't be more wrong
We shyt on AB opps in here all the time...muhfukkers were saying Vargas robbed khabib....AB fights him right after N khabib is a bum...I don't even fukk with AB N I
As far as Swift goes Salka was damn near 3 yrs ago
Herrera was treated like he was Salka by hating ass muhfukkers which is why you got people giving him 10 RDS
Peterson was Matthysse leftovers... Glass chin nobody wanted to see it
Malignaggi was washed another Cherry
Ghost was washed another cherry
Berto was goin be a cherry...Molina was a cherry
Do you see the trend here??
ok, I only speak on my behalf then, I only criticized him for Vargas and Salka, after that I saw that the Thurman fight was really fixed at the time of the Vargas fight so I don't give him shyt anymore for that.
I doN't like Danny cause I don't like his style and out of ring but other then that he has a good resume and more people should acknowledge that even though if he has questionable wins and I think he lost one of his fights already.
reservoirdogs
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that' the point at the end of the day and I like to believe that I also belong into that category eve though I clearly view Broner as a different level fighter than @Newzz does for example
I know we have had this conversation breh, but I am forgetting, what do you think Ward should make?
Just going off my amatuer armchair research here, but Kovalev got roughly $2 million and Main Events says that is all the PPV buys allowed. I would assume Kov takes a rematch and gets about the same. Seems fair.
HBO isn't financially providing purses, since it is PPV, so basically all they do is help market, do the TV rights, and get a percentage of the event. They take like 9% of PPV buy revenue to cover their expenses and get some profit.
That leaves revenue to RNS. According to the last fights numbers Ward should have been paid $2-3 million (under deals fighters typically get), if it was based strictly on buys, but he had a guarantee from RNS that allowed him to get $5-7 million. Great for Andre, bad for RNS. Unless the second fight sells a fair bit more, would RNS up the amount guaranteed to Ward? Even if they are already losing money on his guarantee?
Seems like if they paid Ward (rounding for math) $6 million, Kovalev would still get his $2 million. That is still a 75/25 purse in Ward's favor, which is insane considering the first logically should have been 50/50, but Ward's guarantee.
I think if RNS gives Ward the $5-7 million for a rematch, Ward is winning big and should be expected to take the fight.
$5 million is not an option...he got $5 million as the undefeated, #3 P4P, beltless Challenger.
He's now ranked #2 P4P, still undefeated, holds 3 of the 4 Championships at Light Heavyweight, and won the first fight....money has to increase.
Whether it's from Roc Nation, HBO, Main Events, or go fund me...either way, the money HAS to be more.
Never do I remember a fighter getting the exact same amount to face someone as a Challenger as they did as a Champion.
If RNS overpaid originally....that's on them
Like I said before, we all seen Bradley get the controversial W over Pacquiao and he still got more money ($5 million in 1st fight... $6 million in the rematch) than he did the 1st time.
It's not up to me to come up with the figure, but it has to be more than their 1st bout...minimum of $6 million
Maybe Kovalev should take the paycut, since he lost
Its because the hardcore heads shyt on his opposition....and JOINED the casuals in bashing AB.
If his opposition wasn't talked down upon, there is no way I would've had as many debates in this thread alone about AB's resume
Let's not act like hardcore heads weren't bashing him even before he ever took an L....and the reason was because of his opposition that everyone talked down on.
reservoirdogs
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levels can mean different thing to people so that's... relativeI think Broner is a B+ fighter
it's like a 6/10 album means boring and bad for some and "above average, pretty good" to some others...
It's a co-promotion because Leonard Ellerbe does all the leg work like he did for Broner/Theophane....which was another About Billions Promotions/Mayweather Promotions fight.
It's actually the BEST co-promotion tandem working, because Floyd/Ellerbe handles the media obligations, AB controls the press conferences/interviews, and the fight becomes promoted as it should, and bigger than it would be if it was just 1 or the other
Why do you think Adrien Broner vs Ashley Theophane had it's own 30 minute special....for a Friday Night, Spike TV show?
Floyd got that done
I remember the card presentation stamped with Mayweather Promotions and AB, I hadn't seen any of that for this fight but then again they just settled in the venue
What does B+ mean to you?
To me, it means that you're a really good fighter with the potential to look great on certain nights or against certain opponents