@LennoxWine
Being so critical of Lubin, have you seem him fight live? What SPECIFICALLY don't you see?
Being so critical of Lubin, have you seem him fight live? What SPECIFICALLY don't you see?
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mr heyzel
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LennoxWine
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Hell No
At least not by my definition. There's good, great, and special. Floyd Mayweather. Special. Pernell Whitaker. Special. Sugar Ray's. Special
Mayweather won his first title at 21 against a good fighter in Genaro Hernandez. Special fighters can do that. Lubin isn't on the same level of talent as those guys. I see Lubin being a good fighter with a very slim chance of being great. There's just too many strong fighters around him to see greatness in his future. You have the guys who are already stacking the 154 lbs division. You have the welterweights who will be moving up eventually. At this stage in his career, he shouldn't be fighting any top 4 junior middleweight. He's at least a year's worth of solid fights away. His best chance would be against the Jermell Charlo because he's smaller and rather basic himself. Jermall Charlo presents an even bigger problem. He'll NEVER beat a Lara or Andrade because of styles. They outbox him easily.
#SOG_soldier
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I strongly disagree with his quickness I see him being able to cut off the ring against any 154 pounder but u right his best wins are unknown nikkas he need to see a couple of gatekeepers first. Then he can challenge Charlo nem
Okay that's cool that you think that, and I appreciate the paragraph. But do you want to be specific breh? I mean you're talking down on him like he's 27-28 not 21. Furthermore, you aren't being specific--although you're pontificating on him being just good. Is it the jab? Lack of jab? Movement? Power? D? Intangibles? Chin? What besides sometimes going back in straight lines, and not always being in position defensively is he missing?
Floyd had minor flaws even at the end of his career, same with any fighter that is special. Manny Pac is special, he also been KTFO and has been embarrassed. Etc. etc.
Look at my avi. I'm 5'11.5"205 and dude is just as tall as me, but clearly hasn't filled out yet. Like I said breh is 21.
#SOG_soldier
New York knicks and phoenix suns stan
My punt exactly at 21 he is ridiculously skilled he need to develop fully first then go belt hunting
Ha he fought a dude that was 38-2 when he came to Chicago, Sandoval isn't unknown. Where were you at bruh?
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When did he fight in Chicago I probably was banned during the time.
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New York knicks and phoenix suns stan
I just googled it. I didn't even watch that card, smoke. I was banned earlier this year in the summer and again a months ago
Black_Jesus
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Angel needs his ass whooped
GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
Some good stuff from Breadman's mailbag:
When the smoke clears I expect Joshua to be the best of this era.
I see Jacobs landing big shots early. GGG brings it in a way where a sharp shooter will hit him. The problem is no one has yet to discourage him or win more than 2 rounds against him…..
But let me go on record to say this. When fighters become infatuated with specific physical gifts it usually shocks them to a point of no return when someone exposes this gift. In the fight this weekend between Immanuwell Aleem and Ivghen Khytrov. Khytrov was a guy who acted as if he “couldn’t” be hurt. Aleem knocked him out. GGG seems to have that same way about him. He invites punches. He needs to be careful doing that to Daniel Jacobs. Any man can be hurt if he hit in the right spot at the right time.
The Andy Lee performance was Chavez’s career defining victory. Chavez was excellent that night. But that was a long time ago in “boxing years”… There are lots of things to consider when analyzing this fight. For one what kind of drug testing and when will it start. It’s a dark subject in boxing but …..you know the rest. After that is determined if you look at the fighters I see two different classes. I know Chavez is huge with a rock solid chin but the pressure he puts on is not frenetic. It’s not like a sick Jeff Fenech pressure where you will break at some point. He’s walking you down but it’s nothing an elite talent like Canelo cannot handle. Chavez does have size but when you have size and no defense then you are a big target. In my opinion this fight will look like the first 9 rounds of Cotto vs Margarito 2 not one 1. With Canelo being Cotto and Chavez being Margarito. I say Canelo lights Chavez up to the head and body. The only intrigue will be is if he can stop him or force his corner to do so.
For upcoming fights I feel really good about Anthony Joshua. As much as I respect Klitschko I think Joshua kos him. I know he doesn’t have a lot of experience but he’s so calm under fire I think he will be ok. Garcia vs Thurman is a tougher pick for me. I know everyone is picking Thurman but to me this is a closer fight. I can envision Thurman’s feet being too fast with his in and out pot shots. But I can also see Danny timing him and dropping him a few times then holding his own in the other rounds and squeaking out a decision. Thurman power punches on the move. So he’s easier to time than say a guy like Calazaghe who is just trying to score with that style. Don’t rule out a Danny Garcia victory in that one. But a more confident pick is Mikey Garcia. I think he goes to Zlatician’s body, breaks him down and stops him. Garcia has top three, jab then right hand combos in the game right now. It’s fast, efficient and brutal. And after some hard body work it will slow down the champion’s reflexes and he will be susceptible to the old (1-2).This will be a war but I like Garcia big in this one.
I agree with his picks. I think Joshua KO's Wlad, Thurman-Garcia is close with the edge to Thurman, and a Garcia win (I won't predict KO, but that is Mikey's M.O.).
When the smoke clears I expect Joshua to be the best of this era.
I see Jacobs landing big shots early. GGG brings it in a way where a sharp shooter will hit him. The problem is no one has yet to discourage him or win more than 2 rounds against him…..
But let me go on record to say this. When fighters become infatuated with specific physical gifts it usually shocks them to a point of no return when someone exposes this gift. In the fight this weekend between Immanuwell Aleem and Ivghen Khytrov. Khytrov was a guy who acted as if he “couldn’t” be hurt. Aleem knocked him out. GGG seems to have that same way about him. He invites punches. He needs to be careful doing that to Daniel Jacobs. Any man can be hurt if he hit in the right spot at the right time.
The Andy Lee performance was Chavez’s career defining victory. Chavez was excellent that night. But that was a long time ago in “boxing years”… There are lots of things to consider when analyzing this fight. For one what kind of drug testing and when will it start. It’s a dark subject in boxing but …..you know the rest. After that is determined if you look at the fighters I see two different classes. I know Chavez is huge with a rock solid chin but the pressure he puts on is not frenetic. It’s not like a sick Jeff Fenech pressure where you will break at some point. He’s walking you down but it’s nothing an elite talent like Canelo cannot handle. Chavez does have size but when you have size and no defense then you are a big target. In my opinion this fight will look like the first 9 rounds of Cotto vs Margarito 2 not one 1. With Canelo being Cotto and Chavez being Margarito. I say Canelo lights Chavez up to the head and body. The only intrigue will be is if he can stop him or force his corner to do so.
For upcoming fights I feel really good about Anthony Joshua. As much as I respect Klitschko I think Joshua kos him. I know he doesn’t have a lot of experience but he’s so calm under fire I think he will be ok. Garcia vs Thurman is a tougher pick for me. I know everyone is picking Thurman but to me this is a closer fight. I can envision Thurman’s feet being too fast with his in and out pot shots. But I can also see Danny timing him and dropping him a few times then holding his own in the other rounds and squeaking out a decision. Thurman power punches on the move. So he’s easier to time than say a guy like Calazaghe who is just trying to score with that style. Don’t rule out a Danny Garcia victory in that one. But a more confident pick is Mikey Garcia. I think he goes to Zlatician’s body, breaks him down and stops him. Garcia has top three, jab then right hand combos in the game right now. It’s fast, efficient and brutal. And after some hard body work it will slow down the champion’s reflexes and he will be susceptible to the old (1-2).This will be a war but I like Garcia big in this one.
I agree with his picks. I think Joshua KO's Wlad, Thurman-Garcia is close with the edge to Thurman, and a Garcia win (I won't predict KO, but that is Mikey's M.O.).
Axum Ezana
Driving in the fast lane
uhhh I doubt it! unless he trolls people like angel tryna do. the Floyd/ali/srr blueprint...hes too quiet now.
