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#Superman just building up the fight with Joe Smith by beating up another generic New York cac 1st :smugbiden:

nikkas give everyone else a pass to do that fukk shyt, there shouldn't be a problem when Stevenson does it. :umad:
But Stevenson keeps getting that pass for 2-3 years now or what... :russ:
Fonfara was his last tough opponent and even him only became more known after the Stevenson fight not before

It's a shame cause otherwise Stevenson is an entertaining fighter and his fights are good to watch
 

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Spence: Brook Getting Too Much Credit, Tried to Find a Way Out


By Keith Idec

Errol Spence Jr. appreciates that he’s getting an opportunity to realize his longtime dream.

The undefeated contender still thinks Kell Brook is getting too much credit for agreeing to make a mandated defense of his IBF welterweight title. Brook has mostly been applauded by boxing fans and media for remaining at 147 pounds to face Spence, the IBF’s No. 1 contender, on May 20 in Brook’s hometown of Sheffield, England.

“He’s a great fighter, but he’s getting too much credit for fighting me,” Spence told BoxingScene.com on Monday after learning that the deal was done. “Who else was he gonna fight at 147? Nobody. Who was he gonna fight at 154? He couldn’t fight someone else at 147, because if he didn’t fight me they would say he was ducking me.

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“Who was he gonna fight at 54? There was nobody for him to fight at 54, no big names, the names he wanted. So he had to fight me. Everybody knows he took Triple-G for the money, so I do think he’s getting too much credit for taking this fight.”

Eddie Hearn – whose company, Matchroom Sport, promotes Brook (36-1, 25 KOs) – negotiated with fellow Brit Amir Khan (31-4, 19 KOs) for a domestic clash that would’ve done big business in the United Kingdom.

They couldn’t agree on a revenue split Hearn would’ve considered fair, however, and talks broke off recently. Hearn also has acknowledged having conversations with Puerto Rican icon Miguel Cotto (40-5, 33 KOs), whose February 25 pay-per-view junior middleweight fight against James Kirkland (32-2, 28 KOs) was canceled earlier this month reportedly because Kirkland suffered a broken nose in training.

Those talks didn’t lead to a deal, either, but the 27-year-old Spence (21-0, 18 KOs) considers the aforementioned negotiations proof that Brook doesn’t really want to fight the hard-hitting southpaw from DeSoto, Texas.

“He was trying to find a way out,” said Spence, a 2012 Olympian. “First he was looking for another title-holder. He was looking to fight either Danny Garcia or Keith Thurman. But they’re fighting each other, so he was looking for Manny Pacquiao. Manny Pacquiao wasn’t interested, so he was trying to fight Amir Khan. Then that fell through, so I was high last option.

“There was nobody at 154 for him to fight. Canelo already had a fight with somebody and the rest of the guys are with Al Haymon. He really didn’t have any options but to fight me, so that’s where he went.”



Hearn and promoter Tom Brown, who represented Spence in negotiations, informed the IBF on Monday to cancel a purse bid scheduled for Tuesday at the IBF’s headquarters in Springfield, New Jersey, because they had reached an agreement.

The 30-year-old Brook will move back down to 147 pounds to box Spence. He moved up two weight classes, to 160 pounds, for his last fight – a fifth-round technical knockout defeat to Kazakhstan’s Gennady Golovkin (36-0, 33 KOs) on September 10 at O2 Arena in London.

Brook suffered a broken right orbital bone in his loss to Golovkin, which required surgery.

Keith Idec is a senior writer/columnist for BoxingScene.com. He can be reached on Twitter @Idecboxing.

- See more at: Spence: Brook Getting Too Much Credit, Tried to Find a Way Out - Boxing News


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I guess generic Joe was too dangerous for him:skip:
Imagine he went from being unknown construction worker to going on a streak knocking out fonfara, bernard hopkins and stevenson. You couldn't write a believable movie script off that shyt:gucci:
 

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Just wondering what the betting odds for Brook vs Spence will be
Expect a slight edge for Brook

HE won a round against Golovkin and now everybody on his dikk acting like he would be much more experienced than Spence :heh:
I read somewhere that Brook will outjab Spence
How you gonna outjab someone with a 8 cm longer reach than you if you're not even significantly faster than him? Add the fact that Spence has one of the best jabs now in the game... That power jab.
Spence is the black Kovalev who can also fight on the inside. You will see
 

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Expect a slight edge for Brook

HE won a round against Golovkin and now everybody on his dikk acting like he would be much more experienced than Spence :heh:
I read somewhere that Brook will outjab Spence
How you gonna outjab someone with a 8 cm longer reach than you if you're not even significantly faster than him? Add the fact that Spence has one of the best jabs now in the game... That power jab.
Spence is the black Kovalev who can also fight on the inside. You will see
He's got 8cm reach on him :hubie:
That's even longer than golovkins reach :gucci:
 

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Expect a slight edge for Brook

HE won a round against Golovkin and now everybody on his dikk acting like he would be much more experienced than Spence :heh:
I read somewhere that Brook will outjab Spence
How you gonna outjab someone with a 8 cm longer reach than you if you're not even significantly faster than him? Add the fact that Spence has one of the best jabs now in the game... That power jab.
Spence is the black Kovalev who can also fight on the inside. You will see
1 thing though......... I think golovkin is one of the best jabbers in the game and imo is more accurate than errol spence with it. Hell he has a higher workrate than most in the game though. That plus the fact that Brook's chin stood up to golovkin's power (his eye however didn't) and brook's jab is pretty good itself will make it a tough challenge. Now the think is that Spence's power punches are damn accurate. Like 65% connect rate against bundu but then again Brook is on a completely different level to bundu. Idk who to pick for this one to be honest. :jbhmm:
 

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Expect a slight edge for Brook

HE won a round against Golovkin and now everybody on his dikk acting like he would be much more experienced than Spence :heh:
I read somewhere that Brook will outjab Spence
How you gonna outjab someone with a 8 cm longer reach than you if you're not even significantly faster than him? Add the fact that Spence has one of the best jabs now in the game... That power jab.
Spence is the black Kovalev who can also fight on the inside. You will see
Black Kovalev? IDK Kkkov needs room to get off his punches. ESJ looks like he can get leverage on all his shots from close quarters. Plus he's got quick hands.
 

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1 thing though......... I think golovkin is one of the best jabbers in the game and imo is more accurate than errol spence with it. Hell he has a higher workrate than most in the game though. That plus the fact that Brook's chin stood up to golovkin's power (his eye however didn't) and brook's jab is pretty good itself will make it a tough challenge. Now the think is that Spence's power punches are damn accurate. Like 65% connect rate against bundu but then again Brook is on a completely different level to bundu. Idk who to pick for this one to be honest. :jbhmm:
Kill the body and the head will fall. Go with the body puncher breh.
 

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1 thing though......... I think golovkin is one of the best jabbers in the game and imo is more accurate than errol spence with it. Hell he has a higher workrate than most in the game though. That plus the fact that Brook's chin stood up to golovkin's power (his eye however didn't) and brook's jab is pretty good itself will make it a tough challenge. Now the think is that Spence's power punches are damn accurate. Like 65% connect rate against bundu but then again Brook is on a completely different level to bundu. Idk who to pick for this one to be honest. :jbhmm:
1: Brook's chin held up for those 5 rounds not the whole fight
2: Body punches can still KO you even if your chin holds up

Golovkin has a high workrate but he doesn't fight as long as Spence usually does and Spence's favored fighting distance is all wrong for him. While Golovkin likes to fight in the pocket-mid distance, Spence likes to bomb from the outside
 

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Black Kovalev? IDK Kkkov needs room to get off his punches. ESJ looks like he can get leverage on all his shots from close quarters. Plus he's got quick hands.

Spence is more multi-faceted but the way they like to fight is similar imo...
Both are boxer-punchers with big power who establish a strong power jab and usually fight front foot but like to do so from a long distance.
Kovalev's hands are also quick breh... he surprised me actually when in the first few rounds he was faster than Ward with his hands, shyt got me... :dwillhuh:
 

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Kill the body and the head will fall. Go with the body puncher breh.
Idk man Brook now has experience fighting 2 of the best pressure fighters in the game in Porter and GGG. On the other hand though Spence may be the best inside fighter he has faced to date.
 

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Spence is more multi-faceted but the way they like to fight is similar imo...
Both are boxer-punchers with big power who establish a strong power jab and usually fight front foot but like to do so from a long distance.
Kovalev's hands are also quick breh... he surprised me actually when in the first few rounds he was faster than Ward with his hands, shyt got me... :dwillhuh:
That shyt was :gucci:
Stunning ward with a jab after Ward stood up to shots from guys like Abraham Froch etc:hubie:
I think Ward slowed down after that long layoff and moving up but that was still odd
 

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Idk man Brook now has experience fighting 2 of the best pressure fighters in the game in Porter and GGG. On the other hand though Spence may be the best inside fighter he has faced to date.
I'm going to have to re-watch the porter and triple G fights. I recall Brook having a very good check hook and fundamentals in both fights. But wore down after 4 with triple g (understandable--weight), but I'ma need to re-watch the Porter, I recall that one being pretty damn close.

@ChocolateGiddyUp you team Brownie this month?
 

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That shyt was :gucci:
Stunning ward with a jab after Ward stood up to shots from guys like Abraham Froch etc:hubie:
I think Ward slowed down after that long layoff and moving up but that was still odd
That surprised the hell out of me too. Ward fought the first 4 rounds of that fight very tight, which is extremely strange. I think he was shook of kkkovs power until he felt it, ironically enough.
 
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