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Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.
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You just asked me:
"Why we debating AB/BATB again? Cause Broner just SD a dude Vargas would beat?" as if Vargas could do the same thing Broner does...when they already have a mutual opponent who showed that Broner does better against the same opposition
If Broner got a SD, what makes you sure Vargas wins? It's already proven that AB beats similar opps better....so why bring up Vargas unless you want to discuss the fact he sent Bradley's equilibrium to the bushes and then the ref stepped in and called off the fight too early
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That's also another reason I know Broner has the chance to hurt Bradley, because Broner is an all-around better puncher than Vargas.
I'm not getting into a hypothetical. Facts are, Vargas had him rocked and the ref jumped in and stopped the fight early. You dont know what Vargas mightve landed in the last 10 seconds on a already hurt Bradley. Could've been a 1 hitter quitter coming down the pipeline....you CAN'T say no, bc the fight was stopped early. Nobody knows what would've happened if the ref hadn't stopped it too early.
Sadam Ali beat that Argentinian better than Bradley who beat Vargas, does that mean if they re fade, Ali's gna KO vargas?!?
I don't know....ask yourself that, you brought up the triangle theory
Because AB won a SD, you think Vargas can beat Granados....how? Especially when it's already been proven that Broner beats similar opposition better
Yeah....Bradley would be a much better fighter
LMAO breh
You just asked me:
"Why we debating AB/BATB again? Cause Broner just SD a dude Vargas would beat?" as if Vargas could do the same thing Broner does...when they already have a mutual opponent who showed that Broner does better against the same opposition
If Broner got a SD, what makes you sure Vargas wins? It's already proven that AB beats similar opps better....so why bring up Vargas unless you want to discuss the fact he sent Bradley's equilibrium to the bushes and then the ref stepped in and called off the fight too early
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That's also another reason I know Broner has the chance to hurt Bradley, because Broner is an all-around better puncher than Vargas.
I'm not getting into a hypothetical. Facts are, Vargas had him rocked and the ref jumped in and stopped the fight early. You dont know what Vargas mightve landed in the last 10 seconds on a already hurt Bradley. Could've been a 1 hitter quitter coming down the pipeline....you CAN'T say no, bc the fight was stopped early. Nobody knows what would've happened if the ref hadn't stopped it too early.
I don't know....ask yourself that, you brought up the triangle theory
Because AB won a SD, you think Vargas can beat Granados....how? Especially when it's already been proven that Broner beats similar opposition better
Yeah....Bradley would be a much better fighter
just accept AB isn't what you thought he was. You LB and SOG think he's a top 5 welterweight. Even though he just struggled with a C+ 140lb fighter. Spin it in circles, talk abt the one valuable punch Vargas landed on BATB. shyt dis Tim all you want it's not gna magically make AB into the fighter you wished he was 
and I have nothing against Broner, in fact in the fight thread I said, "looks like Broner broke his hand 
when they took his glove off.AB has never beat a top level or close to top level opponent above 140 breh, sorry.
King P
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LMAO breh
I think it's you and everyone else who needs to accept it breh.Almost 2 years ago, I said:
He been a B level fighter and still is
He lost to Shawn Porter...Shawn Porter is a good fighter himself.
Like I said, AB was the underdog in the fight...even WITH the catchweight, so him losing is not surprising. He should be fighting no higher than 140. The sooner they figure that out, the sooner we get that 4th belt.
#BandCamp
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...and then he went on to get that 4th belt just like I said. Why yall keep holding him to 135lb, #6 P4P Broner standards, when even I'VE come to the conclusion he's not that much better than everyone else, beats me
Maybe, yall like bashing him
Receipts where I've said this?
...with 11 months ring rust and a broken left hand in the 1st round....in which you even acknowledged....but I guess in the quest for hate, facts don't matter anymore
This same "C+ 140lb fighter" also KO'd the guy you thought could beat Matthysse, you know, the guy you claimed was the best at 140
But the real point is, if Imam fights Lucas, yea he may win. But if he wins he's going through hell and won't be the same fighter again
But now, Granados aint nothing to write home about even though he slumped the guy you thought could beat YOUR favorite fighter?
Spin it in circles, talk abt the one valuable punch Vargas landed on BATB. shyt dis Tim all you want it's not gna magically make AB into the fighter you wished he was
AB has never beat a top level or close to top level opponent above 140 breh, sorry.
Bradley is not a top level fighter at 147 anymore and he doesn't have the skills or the size/power to beat AB
That will never change
What, he's going to smother Broner with pillow punches and win?
What, he's going to outbox Broner from outside?
How does he even win? Misc "intangibles" aka things we cant point out?
You cant be a good pressure fighter without the power to make the opponent cover up away from your shots....and Bradley is wide open for AB's counters and is the same size. He wont win. Ever. No matter how many times you and the Hungarian Smoke tries to push the issue, it's not going to be proven to me that he can win, especially when his chin is failing him consistently at this point.
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reservoirdogs
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Bellew Warns Haye: Try Something - I'll Smack Your F***ing Face!
Tony Bellew has warned David Haye he will not hesitate to hit out should he feel provoked when the two Britons face off again prior to their heavyweight bout.
A press conference to promote the fight three months ago turned ugly when Haye appeared to aim a punch at Bellew after being shoved by the Liverpudlian as the two met head-to-head, and a repeat of such scenes in the build up to their March 4 meeting could scupper their chances of even arriving in the ring.
Haye, who denied hitting Bellew on that occasion, has previously been involved in a violent altercation at a press conference with Dereck Chisora in 2012 while Bellew has previously butted heads with Adonis Stevenson at a weigh-in.
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And the possibility of another pre-fight punch up is something Bellew has not ruled out should Haye attempt to draw his ire.
"Listen, if he gets close to me and twitches in any way, I'll be the first one to smack his f***ing face," Bellew said. If he gets close to me, I don't care about nothing. My first rule of boxing is to get home safe. If he wants to put that in jeopardy away from the ring, that's what will happen. So it's down to (promoter) Eddie (Hearn) to put something in place, not me. If he steps towards me and twitches in any way... "
"I pushed him the first time because I've never hit anyone at a press conference. I've butted someone, but he butted me first.
"I've never struck anyone yet, but I will not be second this time. He's 1-0 up at the minute. That's how I look at it. He got the cheap shot in. If he steps towards me again, trust me, I will be first.
"He hit me on the side of my head with his knuckles and this t**t is still going on that he just slapped me. The thing with David is he can't deal with the fact I'm unpredictable. He lives in a bubble, he lives in a dream world. "
"It was a punch and a p***y of a punch. We've got plans for him on Monday. He's coming to my backyard. It will be tasty. I'm sending my kids on holiday on Sunday. They're not going to be here for fight week because something like that could go off and I don't want them seeing that."
The bad blood between the pair originated before they clashed in November, with security separating them at ringside after Bellew defended his WBC World Cruiserweight title against BJ Flores in October.
Haye's claim he will hospitalise his 34-year-old opponent has also not sat well with Bellew, who has been preparing for their fight at the 02 in London in South Yorkshire while his rival has been training in Miami.
Bellew admits that while he harbours respect for a fighter who was once a world champion at cruiserweight too, there is a fervent dislike for the 36-year-old's personality.
"He has no morals, he has no respect for anyone," he added. He's a fame-hungry helmet. All he cares about is himself. He's the most selfish man on the planet."
"If we just talk about him as a fighter, he's f***ing brilliant. As a person, he's a piece of s**t."
- See more at: Bellew Warns Haye: Try Something - I'll Smack Your F***ing Face! - Boxing News
this fukking man...
Chisora, Bellew, Whyte, Haye, Fury...
What are they feeding these British HWs/CWs?
they are all some of the biggest trash talkers... Haye isn't anymore but he used to be
Only Price and Joshua acts normally outta them but Price is irrelevant anyway
this fukking man...
Chisora, Bellew, Whyte, Haye, Fury...
What are they feeding these British HWs/CWs?
they are all some of the biggest trash talkers... Haye isn't anymore but he used to be
Only Price and Joshua acts normally outta them but Price is irrelevant anyway
they are doing what they need to do: sell their fights.
reservoirdogs
Superstar
Joshua is the biggest draw out of them and he is all laid back and shyt...
Okay, I know that h has the most star power and an entertaining style but still...
I like stylish trash talk but these guys take it over the top sometimes, like they would be in WWE
hey if the action backs up the talk, however uncouth it is, its a win
look at chisora-whyte...they were outta control in all the pre fight stuff then they went and had a FOTY candidate.. in the heavyweight division no less...now both of their stocks are still on the up and up
@((ReFleX)) ODLH finally confirmed PPV split HAS been offered to GGG breh 
“Look, the offer is there,” De La Hoya said to a small group of reporters at the Hard Rock Café in Manhattan. “He would be making the most money ever [in Golovkin’s career]. Golovkin without Canelo, he’s making what he’s making. But I think that, look, we’re waiting for him and the ball’s in his court. “So I feel that, look, you guys waited, the fans waited for Pacquiao-Mayweather for eight years. We’ve been talking about this fight for only a year. I’m not saying we’re not gonna make it. But the offer’s there and, look, we don’t know what’s gonna happen in May. Obviously, we’re in Canelo’s corner 100 percent. First things first, but there is a date in September wide open, so it’s just a matter of him signing on the dotted line.”
Critics have lambasted De La Hoya because they think he is avoiding putting his promotional company’s cash cow in the ring against the Kazakh knockout artist. Alvarez’s fight against Chavez is expected to be a financial success, but according to several Internet sports books, Alvarez is a 10-1 favorite over his Mexican rival two-plus months before they’ll meet at T-Mobile Arena.
De La Hoya didn’t divulge details of the Golovkin offer Tuesday, but previously has said Golovkin would’ve been guaranteed at least $10 million as part of the offer he made late last summer. It also has been reported that Golovkin was offered a flat fee for facing Alvarez, but not a percentage of what likely would be significant pay-per-view revenue. De La Hoya contended Tuesday, however, that his offer to Golovkin was a combination of a guaranteed purse and pay-per-view revenue.
“Let’s just say that it’s a combination,” De La Hoya said. “The deal is a combination of both. Look, if they’re not happy with the deal, then it’s not on us. The deal is there. He would make the most money ever against Canelo and if you really want the fight, I mean, Canelo’s not running from nobody. He wants to fight the very best. And that’s absolutely, positively including Triple-G.”
- See more at: De La Hoya: GGG Can Fight Canelo or Keep Making What He Makes! - Boxing News
“Look, the offer is there,” De La Hoya said to a small group of reporters at the Hard Rock Café in Manhattan. “He would be making the most money ever [in Golovkin’s career]. Golovkin without Canelo, he’s making what he’s making. But I think that, look, we’re waiting for him and the ball’s in his court. “So I feel that, look, you guys waited, the fans waited for Pacquiao-Mayweather for eight years. We’ve been talking about this fight for only a year. I’m not saying we’re not gonna make it. But the offer’s there and, look, we don’t know what’s gonna happen in May. Obviously, we’re in Canelo’s corner 100 percent. First things first, but there is a date in September wide open, so it’s just a matter of him signing on the dotted line.”
Critics have lambasted De La Hoya because they think he is avoiding putting his promotional company’s cash cow in the ring against the Kazakh knockout artist. Alvarez’s fight against Chavez is expected to be a financial success, but according to several Internet sports books, Alvarez is a 10-1 favorite over his Mexican rival two-plus months before they’ll meet at T-Mobile Arena.
De La Hoya didn’t divulge details of the Golovkin offer Tuesday, but previously has said Golovkin would’ve been guaranteed at least $10 million as part of the offer he made late last summer. It also has been reported that Golovkin was offered a flat fee for facing Alvarez, but not a percentage of what likely would be significant pay-per-view revenue. De La Hoya contended Tuesday, however, that his offer to Golovkin was a combination of a guaranteed purse and pay-per-view revenue.
“Let’s just say that it’s a combination,” De La Hoya said. “The deal is a combination of both. Look, if they’re not happy with the deal, then it’s not on us. The deal is there. He would make the most money ever against Canelo and if you really want the fight, I mean, Canelo’s not running from nobody. He wants to fight the very best. And that’s absolutely, positively including Triple-G.”
- See more at: De La Hoya: GGG Can Fight Canelo or Keep Making What He Makes! - Boxing News
reservoirdogs
Superstar
that's true
Axum Ezana
Driving in the fast lane
I'm glad you've admitted it breh.
Almost 2 years ago, I said:
...and then he went on to get that 4th belt just like I said. Why yall keep holding him to 135lb, #6 P4P Broner standards, when even I'VE come to the conclusion he's not that much better than everyone else, beats me
Maybe, yall like bashing him
Receipts where I've said this?
...with 11 months ring rust and a broken left hand in the 1st round....in which you even acknowledged....but I guess in the quest for hate, facts don't matter anymore
This same "C+ 140lb fighter" also KO'd the guy you thought could beat Matthysse, you know, the guy you claimed was the best at 140
But now, Granados aint nothing to write home about even though he slumped the guy you thought could beat YOUR favorite fighter?
Bradley is not a top level fighter at 147 anymore and he doesn't have the skills or the size/power to beat AB
That will never change
What, he's going to smother Broner with pillow punches and win?
What, he's going to outbox Broner from outside?
How does he even win? Misc "intangibles" aka things we cant point out?
You cant be a good pressure fighter without the power to make the opponent cover up away from your shots....and Bradley is wide open for AB's counters and is the same size. He wont win. Ever. No matter how many times you and the Hungarian Smoke tries to push the issue, it's not going to be proven to me that he can win, especially when his chin is failing him consistently at this point.
Oh years ago I PREDICTED Imam could beat Lucas? And?
How did BATB beat JMM? Pillow punches? Or by outworking and outboxing him, the exact same way he would Broner breh? How does he win? He throws more punches, connects comparably and ring generalship, easy night at the office unless he gets caught cold.
@((ReFleX)) ODLH finally confirmed PPV split HAS been offered to GGG breh
“Look, the offer is there,” De La Hoya said to a small group of reporters at the Hard Rock Café in Manhattan. “He would be making the most money ever [in Golovkin’s career]. Golovkin without Canelo, he’s making what he’s making. But I think that, look, we’re waiting for him and the ball’s in his court. “So I feel that, look, you guys waited, the fans waited for Pacquiao-Mayweather for eight years. We’ve been talking about this fight for only a year. I’m not saying we’re not gonna make it. But the offer’s there and, look, we don’t know what’s gonna happen in May. Obviously, we’re in Canelo’s corner 100 percent. First things first, but there is a date in September wide open, so it’s just a matter of him signing on the dotted line.”
Critics have lambasted De La Hoya because they think he is avoiding putting his promotional company’s cash cow in the ring against the Kazakh knockout artist. Alvarez’s fight against Chavez is expected to be a financial success, but according to several Internet sports books, Alvarez is a 10-1 favorite over his Mexican rival two-plus months before they’ll meet at T-Mobile Arena.
De La Hoya didn’t divulge details of the Golovkin offer Tuesday, but previously has said Golovkin would’ve been guaranteed at least $10 million as part of the offer he made late last summer. It also has been reported that Golovkin was offered a flat fee for facing Alvarez, but not a percentage of what likely would be significant pay-per-view revenue. De La Hoya contended Tuesday, however, that his offer to Golovkin was a combination of a guaranteed purse and pay-per-view revenue.
“Let’s just say that it’s a combination,” De La Hoya said. “The deal is a combination of both. Look, if they’re not happy with the deal, then it’s not on us. The deal is there. He would make the most money ever against Canelo and if you really want the fight, I mean, Canelo’s not running from nobody. He wants to fight the very best. And that’s absolutely, positively including Triple-G.”
- See more at: De La Hoya: GGG Can Fight Canelo or Keep Making What He Makes! - Boxing News
Knew this was signed at then breakfast club interview
