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None of those fights between Pacquiao and Marquez were robberies, stop it already.

The thing is that those guys are so evenly matched that it all comes down to style and who's you prefer. And unless the fight ends in KO, we're always gonna argue over who really won. If they fought 100 times and they all went to the scorecard, we'd be having a debate for every last one of them :deadmanny:

Except the first fight. Clear win for Pacquiao by more than the one point the stupid judge forgot to tally.
 

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hell of a combo
stunned pacquaio
marquez himself was a little off balance tho and he didnt put all his power into it
plus after being hit a few times before, pacquaio knew the punches were coming

in their last fight, pacquaio ran full speed into a punch he didnt even see
marquez put all his body weight into it as well
that punch woulda knocked out a elephant

That last left hook was clean as hell though & JMM balance was ok. He's slides to the side like that after throwing the left hook all the time. That punch was right on the chin & wouldve KO'ed 99% of others in the division fam. Pac didn't see that coming either because the right handed landed first which was almost a "throwaway punch" that landed. I also think Pac was off the juice by the 4th fight
 

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Jacobs' Trainer: Jacobs Has More One-Punch KO Power Than Golovkin

By Keith Idec

Daniel Jacobs’ trainer obviously respects Gennady Golovkin’s power.

Andre Rozier just doesn’t think Golovkin possesses one-punch knockout power. In fact, Rozier believes Jacobs actually is more of a one-punch knockout artist than Golovkin, who has knocked out 92 percent of his opponents.

That’s among the advantages Rozier thinks Brooklyn’s Jacobs (32-1, 29 KOs) will own over Kazakhstan’s Golovkin (36-0, 33 KOs) when they meet March 18 at Madison Square Garden (HBO Pay-Per-View).

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“Well, he has good punching power,” Rozier said Wednesday during a conference call. ‘I’m not gonna say that he has hellacious punching power, because he doesn’t hit people with one shot and then it’s over with. Most of his knockouts come through basically attrition, where he’s constantly banging at you and wearing you down.

“I mean, he’s had a couple [one-punch knockouts], but Danny has had more first-round knockouts than he has. And Danny has hit a lot more people with those one or two clean shots than Gennady has. I mean, even in Gennady’s last fight against Kell Brook – Kell Brook, in the first round, he tripped up a bit. He never went down. This was an attrition effort with him, constantly applying pressure and breaking him down. And a lot of people, they get caught up in the issue, ‘OK, the fight is stopped. The bottom line is, did he win by a knockout?’ Yes, he did. But we knock people out. And that’s gonna be one of the major differences.”

Rozier also feels fans and media might be making too much out of the knockdowns Jacobs has suffered against former WBO middleweight champ Dmitry Pirog and onetime WBC super welterweight champ Sergio Mora.

Pirog stopped Jacobs in the fifth round of their title fight 6½ years ago. Jacobs overcame a first-round knockdown against Mora, whom Jacobs also dropped in the first round, in their August 2015 fight to win by technical knockout in the second round. He also dominated Mora in their rematch 13 months later by knocking him down five times on his way to a seventh-round TKO victory.

“When people see,” Rozier said, “and they keep mentioning it constantly, ‘Oh, Danny went down.’ Yeah, Danny went down and that made Danny a lot smarter. In his fight against ‘Kid Chocolate,’ he showed supreme athleticism and incredible aggression – a little more than I wanted – but incredible aggression. He was a monster. That’s what Danny can do.

“Danny can go from being up on his toes, flashing jabs and quick combinations, or he might come at you like a little wildebeest, ready to bang and dig and scruff you out. He has many, many options. So, yes, Gennady can punch. But Danny can punch, too. Gennady’s rough. Danny can be rough, too. Danny’s hands are a lot faster than his opponent’s, and you’re gonna see some of the differences play themselves out in this fight."

- See more at: Jacobs' Trainer: Jacobs Has More One-Punch KO Power Than Golovkin - Boxing News

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That last left hook was clean as hell though & JMM balance was ok. He's slides to the side like that after throwing the left hook all the time. That punch was right on the chin & wouldve KO'ed 99% of others in the division fam. Pac didn't see that coming either because the right handed landed first which was almost a "throwaway punch" that landed. I also think Pac was off the juice by the 4th fight
Yeah i agree,
It was a great combo
I still think that Marquez punch was a lot worse
 

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I dunno. I get where he’s coming from, and some of GGG’s KO’s are absolutely after wearing someone down for a while, but he also never attacks people like Jacobs does. I think that first round KO stat isn’t indicative of power, but more approach. GGG is never going to jump on someone like how Jacobs went after Quillin. In a lot of his fights his opponent is visibly checked-out and ripe for the picking and he’s still maintaining a methodical approach.


I can’t think of anything where you could say one is the definitively harder puncher than the other :manny:


The difference for most people is what his trainer is trying to explain away, which is we’ve seen Danny get hit and go down.
 

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Rewatched Wilder - Washington and...the way Wilder reacts to a faint jab to the body is :scust:. shyt is waiting to get exploited


But if he lands that Bomb.....it's OVER
Wondering how he will lose first... sonebody will just takethat right away and outpoints him or somebody will get advantage on his slow start and leaky defense and bombs him out in a few rounds before Wilder could land the bomb.
 

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Rewatched Wilder - Washington and...the way Wilder reacts to a faint jab to the body is :scust:. shyt is waiting to get exploited


But if he lands that Bomb.....it's OVER

Who's gonna exploit it though? Most of today's HWs don't go to the body, and the ones who do (Izo, Washington) aren't good enough:manny:
 

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Wondering how he will lose first... sonebody will just takethat right away and outpoints him

So, they are gonna run away the entire fight?


Nobody possesses the skill at HW to "take away" Wilder's Golden Gun...aint no good defensive fighters at HW. They would have to literally back up the entire fight to get out of reach of Wilder, which would make them look like they're running :manny:




or somebody will get advantage on his slow start and leaky defense and bombs him out in a few rounds before Wilder could land the bomb.

That's a valid option....but you would have to risk giving up YOUR chin to try and land on Wilder's:mjpls:
 

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Who's gonna exploit it though? Most of today's HWs don't go to the body, and the ones who do (Izo, Washington) aren't good enough:manny:

yep that's my other thought too...he's vulnerable but who can do it? IDK if Joshua is skilled enough, idk if Fury is sober, if Vlad is able enough, is Parker experienced enough, is Whyte big/powerful enough?!?!?! :lupe:
 

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yep that's my other thought too...he's vulnerable but who can do it? IDK if Joshua is skilled enough, idk if Fury is sober, if Vlad is able enough, is Parker experienced enough, is Whyte big/powerful enough?!?!?! :lupe:

Fam you're forgetting about everyone favorite heavyweight to beat wilder right now in Luis Ortiz smh
 
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