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De La Hoya: Gennady Golovkin's near loss doesn't increase his 'B' side value for Canelo Alvarez fight
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With negotiations scheduled to resume this week for a Canelo Alvarez-Gennady Golovkin fight, promoter Oscar De La Hoya indicated Golovkin’s narrow victory over Daniel Jacobs did nothing to increase his “B” side value in the potential middleweight title bout.

De La Hoya told the Los Angeles Times in a Monday telephone interview that he believes the chances of striking a deal with Golovkin promoter Tom Loeffler for the bout “decrease” because of Golovkin’s showing in a 115-112, 115-112, 114-113 unanimous-decision triumph at Madison Square Garden.

Loeffler has already attempted to counter-offer a previous offer by De La Hoya to stage the bout, and De La Hoya indicated his preferred purse split isn’t likely to budge after Jacobs (32-2) landed more power punches on Golovkin (37-0, 33 knockouts) and won the final three rounds on two judges’ scorecards after surviving a fourth-round knockdown.

Golovkin’s 23-fight knockout streak ended in his 18th consecutive middleweight-title triumph.

“Not that [Golovkin’s value] went down,” De La Hoya said. “I just feel that given today’s market, I really feel that GGG’s side has to be more than fair to make this fight.

“I actually believe [the percentages of making the fight] decrease. It all depends on the negotiations – and we’ll continue talks – but now obviously we clearly know who the ‘A’ side is and that’s obviously Canelo. So I’m going to instruct my president Eric Gomez to continue talks and hopefully it can get done, but I strongly feel Canelo is obviously the ‘A’ side and there’s no doubt about it.”


Alvarez (48-1-1, 34 KOs), a former two-division champion and Mexico’s most popular fighter, will meet countryman Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. May 6 at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas in an HBO pay-per-view bout that is expected to far out-sell Golovkin-Jacobs.

Buy it or not, De La Hoya said his original opinion that Alvarez, 26, can defeat Golovkin, 34, didn’t change much despite Saturday’s result.





“I’ve always been confident in Canelo’s abilities,” De La Hoya said. “He’s only getting stronger. He’s only getting faster. He hasn’t peaked. And he’s looking very strong, especially at this weight. I’ve always stated Canelo is a superior fighter than most, if not all fighters, out there and it will be an explosive, terrific fight.”

Jacobs provided two valuable blueprints to Alvarez. First, he packed on nearly 20 pounds after his Friday weigh-in and withstood Golovkin’s power.

De La Hoya said Jacobs’ most glaring mistake was not trusting his strength earlier.

“Jacobs gave Golovkin too much respect. I’ve always said if you’re a fighter who gets into great shape, you can handle any pressure, any type of punch from anybody,” De La Hoya said. “You have to be in shape to stand toe to toe, and that’s the mistake Jacobs made: In the second half of the fight, he did terrific, but in the first half of the fight, he gave Golovkin too much respect.


“Mark my words: When Canelo and Golovkin gets made, Canelo’s not going to respect him one bit. Right from the start.”

De La Hoya said it’s good for boxing that Jacobs has asserted himself as a valued player in the division, but the promoter maintained he will try to make Alvarez-Golovkin first.

“We’re ready to make this fight. We want to make this fight,” De La Hoya said. “Now, we have to wait and see what happens with Chavez on May 6.”


De La Hoya: Gennady Golovkin's thin win doesn't increase his 'B' side value for Canelo Alvarez fight
 

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I don't know....haven't thought about it really.


I don't think Danny Jacobs really does anything that Canelo cant and doesn't already do better. Plus Jacob's chin has an "off" button and I think Canelo can press it with one of his counters. Jacobs is huge though, so he might be able to take Canelo's best and then give him some heat back being that Jacobs has way more power than anyone Canelo has faced, and Jacobs will drop combinantions and would also have the size advantage as well. Probably a 50/50 fight, depending on if Canelo's power translates to Middleweight.


I'd rather see Canelo vs Jermall Charlo to be honest, but if Canelo doesn't fight GGG in September, he needs to fight Danny Jacobs.
Imo that is a good fight. Another one is Danny vs BJS. BJS probably got the fastest feet/hands in the division but gets stamina problems in later rounds. He can take a shot and is technocally sound. But he needs to stay in shape. That fight would be interesting
 

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I know I do....its a shame Canelo and GGG don't have a notable common opponent unless I'm mistaken...it would be a good basis for a comparison
Canelo struggles with boxers and movers, Trout showed it, thought he won the fight after the knockdown, Lara showed it, thought he won it but it was closer than the Trout fight imho. JAcobs has shown he can move just as well if not better, is a bigger puncher, can take harder shots from a heavier handed guy, and can give him more of those boxer mover problems with the power to actually hurt him when he lands.

I hope Jacobs can stay at 160 longer to atleast get another title shot or lineup a shot against Canelo, but I doubt that will happen
 

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I know I do....its a shame Canelo and GGG don't have a notable common opponent unless I'm mistaken...it would be a good basis for a comparison
if the little g don't get made, canelo will face jacobs. i'll bet anything on that. the controversial decision is the best thing that coulda happened for canelo. if little g keeps pricing himself out, canelo can just threaten to fight jacobs. last thing little g wants is for somebody steal his payday. best believe little g will be ready to make some concessions now. danny is actually a tougher matchup for canelo if we're being honest:yeshrug:......but canelo beats em both either way:banderas:
 

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Canelo struggles with boxers and movers, Trout showed it, thought he won the fight after the knockdown, Lara showed it, thought he won it but it was closer than the Trout fight imho. JAcobs has shown he can move just as well if not better, is a bigger puncher, can take harder shots from a heavier handed guy, and can give him more of those boxer mover problems with the power to actually hurt him when he lands.

I hope Jacobs can stay at 160 longer to atleast get another title shot or lineup a shot against Canelo, but I doubt that will happen
difference is canelo will hit him much more often than little g did. I think danny will come into that fight and try to bum rush canelo like he did quillin. thinking canelo is too small for him. but once canelo hits him with a straight right and a left to the body, he gonna be :damn:......canelo is just the superior fighter. the chavez fight will say it all. then we'll know for sure how much power canelo is bringing up to middleweight.
 

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difference is canelo will hit him much more often than little g did. I think danny will come into that fight and try to bum rush canelo like he did quillin. thinking canelo is too small for him. but once canelo hits him with a straight right and a left to the body, he gonna be :damn:......canelo is just the superior fighter. the chavez fight will say it all. then we'll know for sure how much power canelo is bringing up to middleweight.
No there is no guarantee canelo will hit him more often, he might have more instances where he will try to throw, but if DAnny pumps the jab and moves and circles there is nothing Canelo will be able to do.

Bum rush canelo? Why would he do that when he can pepper him with the same make him walk through all that into a heavy straights?

Canelo isn't a one punch guy and again he couldn't ko Trout or Lara, Jacobs isn't Kirkland or Angulo.

Chavez fight doesn't say anything, JCC Jr. is a bum with a name, that is all it is.
 

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No there is no guarantee canelo will hit him more often, he might have more instances where he will try to throw, but if DAnny pumps the jab and moves and circles there is nothing Canelo will be able to do.

Bum rush canelo? Why would he do that when he can pepper him with the same make him walk through all that into a heavy straights?

Canelo isn't a one punch guy and again he couldn't ko Trout or Lara, Jacobs isn't Kirkland or Angulo.

Chavez fight doesn't say anything, JCC Jr. is a bum with a name, that is all it is.
danny's combo's are ugly as wide as fukk. that's exactly when canelo will hurt him with counters. little g never throws when his opponent is throwing. that isn't canelo. canelo has the defense and reflexes to stand in the pocket and pick off his opponents in the middle of a flurry. and that's what will win him that fight. danny lunges and gets off balance at times. that's why he got knocked down on saturday. canelo is the faster, sharper puncher and that will be the difference.
 

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danny's combo's are ugly as wide as fukk. that's exactly when canelo will hurt him with counters. little g never throws when his opponent is throwing. that isn't canelo. canelo has the defense and reflexes to stand in the pocket and pick off his opponents in the middle of a flurry. and that's what will win him that fight. danny lunges and gets off balance at times. that's why he got knocked down on saturday. canelo is the faster, sharper puncher and that will be the difference.

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I have no problem with Danny's combos, he does get wide at times, but again, the problem for Canelo would be if he doesn't give him the opportunity to counter, but keeps range and makes him press. We saw Canelo didn't even want to do that against Floyd, he didn't do it well against Trout or Lara either.

GGG does counter, usually inside you will see him catch and shoot or sneak a uppercut in, which he did against Danny but Danny ate and handled well. GGG countered Curtis STevens well in their fight, I believe he threw a counter that knocked down and out Rubio, and he threw a counter shot on MOnroe Jr.

That said Danny doesn't have to do anything on Canelo but jab and make Canelo have to lunge or come in side a to try to score and walk him into traps, if Canelo had the mindset of being a pressure fighter or working consistantly on the inside I think it would be interesting, but I still have Canelo losing to GGG if they fought, so nothing has changed for me. GGG needs to stop fukking around with the JCC Jrs, Angulos, and Kirklands of the world and fight legit 154 and 160 competition
 

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GGG needs to stop fukking around with the JCC Jrs, Angulos, and Kirklands of the world and fight legit 154 and 160 competition
i'm assuming you meant canelo. but that's what's gonna happen from now on. people forget the only reason he fought kirkland was because cotto backed out of negotiations. it was supposed to be cotto that night. angulo was a comeback fight after the L to floyd. a fight he needed. after that, he went straight to lara. cotto is a fight everybody wanted to see. khan was a big money fight. now we got chavez jr which is once in a lifetime and a perfect first fight above 160. after this, I think we're gonna see canelo in nothing but top level bouts. if he fights a bum after chavez, then i'll shyt on him. but I think 100% it's either little g or jacobs next. then charlo happens eventually. canelo is only 26. all these fights are gonna happen.
 
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