Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

[patscorpio]

Whoever wants to take that loser banned for a month bet, I'm RIGHT HERE...

Come on breh...we went through this with Gonzalez and Ponce de Leon.....I'm sure you remember what happened the last time we had a disagreement on outcome I like rigo he got shook too many times by lesser fighters to think he wont take a counter shot and get ko'ed in spectacular fashion

 

[yoyoyo1]

at this Canelo situation, dude is finished if he doesn't face Trout. Like I said if he wanted the fight it would have been signed long times ago, Canelo is pump faking acting like he want to fight and then is hiding behind Schaeffer.


Let see how this lays out, if no Trout, who do we want to see Canelo face

come on man

the POINT of being a fighter is being delusional thinking you can beat anyone

gavin rees thought he was gonna beat broner

the only fighter i've heard recently saying he didnt think he was gonna win was hatton vs pacquiao cause he had a miserable training camp and a few other accounts backed it up

maybe for the BRAND canelo is a bit shaky, but as a fighter please miss me with that. tell me you'd fight trout, or any big risk, with a floyd fight that could make your career right there.

 

[patscorpio]

c'mon wit that shyt pat.

nikkkas really putting alot of emphasis in marroquin dropping rigo.

style wise, i think rigo is gonna give donaire a real problem. he's not like none of them other fighter nonito fought like navarez,, nishioka, mathebula, arce, montiel. but he definitely has his flaws as well (paws too much with the jab, keeps right hand down to low, suspect chin,). rigo is just as fast as nonito, slick and a helluva counterpuncher.

donaire been knocking nikkas out but let's not act like he aint been getting touched as well. donaire defense has been looking lazy. i think part of that is due to the fact he' don't even try to set up the left hook anymore.

if nonito ko's rigo i think it will be late. rigo has the tendency of fading in the late rounds. i don't see this as a walk in the park for donaire like many others. im riding wit rigo in this one by sd.

Willy we'll agree to disagree but remember where you and suikodenII heard it first when rigo is stopped within 6

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

looks like the bad blood between rigo and donaire is reachin a boiling point. I got donaire by KO when it happens.

said this 2 months ago and i'm stickin by it. I think the bad blood is gonna have donaire at his best. just don't see rigo makin it through 12.

 

[Yuzo Lightheart]

Ward is imo the #1 boxer in the world right now.

im struggling to think of the last fighter to be as dominant as andre ward is right now. roy jones wasnt even dominating at this level and quality of opponent

 

[Newzz]

im struggling to think of the last fighter to be as dominant as andre ward is right now. roy jones wasnt even dominating at this level and quality of opponent

Ward hasnt fought any great fighters though


Roy Jones dominated everyone....with ease. Same with Floyd Mayweather.


Andre Ward is a great fighter, but he hasn't fought a top 20 P4P opponent yet either. He's cleaned out his division, but is not going to move up or down to fight better opponents (sergio martinez, ggg, even chavez jr), so who's left for him?

 

[Yuzo Lightheart]

ward has done a lot more than roy at smw. you can argue for floyd at 130 and 135 but ward still would have more clout as far as accomplishments and quality of opponent. he also has never had a moment where he wasnt completely dominating. floyd had a lot of problems against castillo and many argue that he lost. cant make an equivalent statement for ward in that respect.

as far as not fighting ggg, sm, and jcc jr

its not him that doesnt want those fights to happen trust me

 

[Newzz]

ward has done a lot more than roy at smw. you can argue for floyd at 130 and 135 but ward still would have more clout as far as accomplishments and quality of opponent. he also has never had a moment where he wasnt completely dominating. floyd had a lot of problems against castillo and many argue that he lost. cant make an equivalent statement for ward in that respect.

as far as not fighting ggg, sm, and jcc jr

its not him that doesnt want those fights to happen trust me

You didnt specify which weight class though breh.

But no, Andre Ward is not more dominant than Roy Jones from MW thru HW. RJJ dominated EVERY fighter he faced in his career until he dropped back down from HW and fought Tarver for the 1st time. Andre Ward isnt doing it like that.

Floyd's entire career is based on dominance as well. The only fighter that even had a "close" loss to Floyd was Castillo.....and we all know what happened in the rematch. Ward's dominance isnt like Floyd's.

The Klitschko's (especially Vitali) have dominated everyone they've faced for the last 7 years......Ward isnt doing it like the Klitschko's either


Ward is a great fighter and my 2nd favorite after Broner, but I'd like to see him dominate an elite fighter before I put him as dominant as RJJ/Floyd/The K-Bros.

 

[Yuzo Lightheart]

floyd's career after 130 and 135 has been more about 24/7 episodes than all time great dominance (look at his record; his best win is against an old DLH) and roy's career outside of james toney (who weighed 200 pounds and had to lose 30 pounds in something like six weeks before they fought) and a young hopkins is equally filled with chaff. most of roy's career is against a lot of unknown low ranked fighters, like the kind that the klitschko's fight every year

ward consistently fight top fighters, hes the only fighter you cant really criticize for ducking, for struggling against certain types of opposition, or not fighting the best consistently/cleaning up his division like a champion should

 

[seemorecizzy]

floyd's career after 130 and 135 has been more about 24/7 episodes than all time great dominance (look at his record; his best win is against an old DLH) and roy's career outside of james toney (who weighed 200 pounds and had to lose 30 pounds in something like six weeks before they fought) and a young hopkins is equally filled with chaff. most of roy's career is against a lot of unknown low ranked fighters, like the kind that the klitschko's fight every year

ward consistently fight top fighters, hes the only fighter you cant really criticize for ducking, for struggling against certain types of opposition, or not fighting the best consistently/cleaning up his division like a champion should

Ward isnt on the level of a prime roy jones or even a current roy
They just better than him

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

Prime Roy fought nobody.He's great but he made a living off of destroying C level fighters.It's not totally his fault but it is what it is.

 

[Yuzo Lightheart]

you think current roy jones is better than andre ward

 

[Newzz]

floyd's career after 130 and 135 has been more about 24/7 episodes than all time great dominance (look at his record; his best win is against an old DLH) and roy's career outside of james toney (who weighed 200 pounds and had to lose 30 pounds in something like six weeks before they fought) and a young hopkins is equally filled with chaff. most of roy's career is against a lot of unknown low ranked fighters, like the kind that the klitschko's fight every year

ward consistently fight top fighters, hes the only fighter you cant really criticize for ducking, for struggling against certain types of opposition, or not fighting the best consistently/cleaning up his division like a champion should

I mean, hey, if you think that current Andre Ward is more dominant than Roy Jones Jr. has ever been, than Floyd has been since 135 lbs, or the K-Bros destroying the entire HW division for the past 8 years....that's on you breh

 

[Yuzo Lightheart]

you can argue pound for pound greatness thats a different argument. im talking about dominating the field with respect to quality opponents. like i said im struggling to think of a fighter comparable to andre ward in that respect. hes like a throwback fighter in that respect.

 

[LeVraiPapi]

ward has done a lot more than roy at smw. you can argue for floyd at 130 and 135 but ward still would have more clout as far as accomplishments and quality of opponent. he also has never had a moment where he wasnt completely dominating. floyd had a lot of problems against castillo and many argue that he lost. cant make an equivalent statement for ward in that respect.

as far as not fighting ggg, sm, and jcc jr

its not him that doesnt want those fights to happen trust me

Ward gets no respect from real boxing fans. He's like a Canelo. Yeah, what he did was impressive buit he refused to fight Chad at his normal weight only to move up after he drained/starved the negga.

Hoe move breh breh