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[patscorpio]

Salido made 50k in his last televised fight

He's not a bigger draw or name than Rigo.

Rigo's drawing power is closer & more consistent with Loma's if you peel back the #'s properly...and this while having a fraction of the career investment & promotion by HBO/Top Rank that Loma has

He's been avoided and blackballed for "being too good" and so-called boxing fans are actually co-signing this shyt.

salido got that plus mexican TV money..he got paid for that fight..trust ..he is a bigger draw..salido has scored high TV ratings where he is the main event and packed in more fans at arenas...ppl have left during rigo fights bruh...with being said my stance is Rigo should get paid and i agree with you there because he is a top fighter...but my argument is only with rigo being a bigger draw than salido ...that i wont agree with

 

[H.I.M.]

Go on a diatribe about Salido that you inexplicably admit that Rigondeaux has already turned down a 500k offer to fight Lomachencko previously which = he already ducked Loma before brehs....just like me, Loma, and Klimas have been saying for the past few days




And also, at even the thought of Rigondeaux obtaining a 700k payday knowing in the past few years, we haven't seen him on TV outside of PPVs put on by his own promoter and his own fans still don't show up for his fights

Think it's "cool" that an elite fighter gets blackballed because you're so much of a groupie for another grown ass man brehs...

We all know Loma doesn't need Rigo, so why in the world would he even be offered anything close to that...especially being he didn't have anyone from his team contact Top Rank to make the fight in the 1st place?

You're right...Loma doesn't NEED that fight...because taking it would effectively end his career.

Smart CAREER move not taking it

 

[H.I.M.]

salido got that plus mexican TV money..he got paid for that fight..trust ..he is a bigger draw..salido has scored high TV ratings where he is the main event and packed in more fans at arenas...ppl have left during rigo fights bruh...with being said my stance is Rigo should get paid and i agree with you there because he is a top fighter...but my argument is only with rigo being a bigger draw than salido ...that i wont agree with

Rigo has never got the proper investment in his career to build any sort of drawing power. Even with that, his comparative drawing compared to Loma's isn't all that far off.

Lomachenko ain't packing no arenas and doing big numbers on TV either, even with all this investment into his career by HBO/Top Rank.

Breh...Salido is not a bigger draw than Rigo...based on some of your reasoning, he can be considered a bigger draw than Lomachenko, so why would he be getting a smaller purse?

 

[Newzz]

Think it's "cool" that an elite fighter gets blackballed because you're so much of a groupie for another grown ass man brehs...

at him being "blackballed" in reality meaning Rigo turned down 500k to fight Lomachenko before


Maybe if there wasn't such a disconnect in between what he and his fans believes he deserves vs what in reality he's worth as a prize fighter, he wouldn't have turned down half a million dollars and a fight at 126

You're right...Loma doesn't NEED that fight...because taking it would effectively end his career.

Smart CAREER move not taking it

The spin



Again, Top Rank has already offered Rigondeaux 500,000 to fight Lomachenko at 126.....and Rigo turned his nose up at it saying "Arum was being cheap" and that it wasn't enough money


Now, after he's been relegated even further into obscurity, and his own fans STILL refuse to show up to watch him fight, it's "bu-bu-but, can I fight Loma at 126 for 500k?"


The answer is NOPE


You shouldn't have been disrespectful and so cocky just a few years ago, thinking signing with RNS was gonna keep you from making 120k paydays on PPV cards as the Co-Main Event

There were rumors last year that Rigondeaux agreed to face Lomachenko at 126 pounds – Rigondeaux currently campaigns at 122 – but those talks cooled when a catch weight came into play. Rigondeaux says that he never agreed to meet Lomachenko at his division weight of 126, and instead feels that they should meet in the middle.

“We never spoke to Bob Arum about fighting Lomachenko at 126,” Rigondeaux said. “I really want to know how much there is to make and he should come to 124. Money talks, [expletive] walks. If you give me the right money, we’ll do it. But in our reality, I’m the king of 122 and he’s 126 so we must meet in the middle.

“One and a half million for a Lomachenko fight is too little and I think it should be more,” Rigondeaux said. “Top Rank [Lomachenko’s promoter] is just too cheap.”

But the reality is Rigondeaux is far from a household name due to his safety-first style and lack of activity. His counterpart is still early in his career and is 5-1 with 3 KOs. Asking HBO to fork over $2 million may simply be bad business. Nevertheless, Rigondeaux believes his amateur accolades have earned him the right to demand more money, and Jay Z’s Roc Nation may be able to deliver.

New Roc Nation fighter Guillermo Rigondeaux says he's ready for Vasyl Lomachenko

 

[Newzz]

Rigo has never got the proper investment in his career to build any sort of drawing power. Even with that, his comparative drawing compared to Loma's isn't all that far off.

Lomachenko ain't packing no arenas and doing big numbers on TV either, even with all this investment into his career by HBO/Top Rank.

Breh...Salido is not a bigger draw than Rigo...based on some of your reasoning, he can be considered a bigger draw than Lomachenko, so why would he be getting a smaller purse?

Last time Rigo fought on HBO...he did 550k. Last time Loma fought on HBO....he did 880k.



How is Rigo on the same scale as Loma as a draw?



Provide some numbers to your posts, because you're just saying stuff without any proof

 

[patscorpio]

Rigo has never got the proper investment in his career to build any sort of drawing power. Even with that, his comparative drawing compared to Loma's isn't all that far off.

Lomachenko ain't packing no arenas and doing big numbers on TV either, even with all this investment into his career by HBO/Top Rank.

Breh...Salido is not a bigger draw than Rigo...based on some of your reasoning, he can be considered a bigger draw than Lomachenko, so why would he be getting a smaller purse?

trust me..salido is a better fighter than lomachenko..ive said it for the longest and even better its official and that statement can be backed up .and a personal bragging point i said salido would beat lomachenko (gotta err on experience)...ive said they gotta break serious bread for salido...salido should be getting pushed more than rigo or lomachenko...he's a fan friendly fighter who has wars the casuals eat up and he can still cause an upset or give serious problems to top fighters in his division.....he's politically free and can fight on any network..break that dude off with some dough

 

[Newzz]

trust me..salido is a better fighter than lomachenko..ive said it for the longest and even better its official and that statement can be backed up .and a personal bragging point i said salido would beat lomachenko (gotta err on experience)...ive said they gotta break serious bread for salido...salido should be getting pushed more than rigo or lomachenko...he's a fan friendly fighter who has wars the casuals eat up and he can still cause an upset or give serious problems to top fighters in his division.....he's politically free and can fight on any network..break that dude off with some dough

They did and he still said no


Can Loma move on with his career now?

 

[The axe murderer]

trust me..salido is a better fighter than lomachenko..ive said it for the longest and even better its official and that statement can be backed up .and a personal bragging point i said salido would beat lomachenko (gotta err on experience)...ive said they gotta break serious bread for salido...salido should be getting pushed more than rigo or lomachenko...he's a fan friendly fighter who has wars the casuals eat up and he can still cause an upset or give serious problems to top fighters in his division.....he's politically free and can fight on any network..break that dude off with some dough

Loma is fan friendly too though
I still don't know how many wars salido can take anymore though

 

[H.I.M.]

Last time Rigo fought on HBO...he did 550k. Last time Loma fought on HBO....he did 880k.

Last time Rigo was on HBO he went head to head with Showtime and did 550k

Last time Loma went head to head with Showtime (against Martinez) he did 550k

Difference is...HBO/Top Rank used Rigo's numbers as an excuse to further blackball him. While Lomachenko's numbers were glossed over.

Rigo is the only one of the two that co-headlined an event that did 1Million+ viewers

While Lomanchenko does 700k when headling with elite opponents

 

[Newzz]

Last time Rigo was on HBO he went head to head with Showtime and did 550k

Last time Loma went head to head with Showtime (against Martinez) he did 550k

Difference is...HBO/Top Rank used Rigo's numbers as an excuse to further blackball him. While Lomachenko's numbers were glossed over.

Rigo is the only one of the two that co-headlined an event that did 1Million+ viewers

While Lomanchenko does 700k when headling with elite opponents

You wanna provide the timeline.....or should I?



I see yall love tossing in a fight from over 4 years ago, as if that has anything to do with today



"hey Arum....remember that time I did numbers with Nonito Donaire, can yall pay me for the rest of my career off them numbers?"






You mind telling me Rigo's numbers over the last 4 years?

 

[patscorpio]

I guess it is true smh. I wonder how Loma fan boys going to spin this one. Dragging a tough gape-keeper up to 130 but didn't even attempt to make the Rigo fight. I guess we can see some more cool highlights of hi-tech doing all that crazy shyt against another overmatched opponent.

or we can pray marriaga drags him into a war and it is too much for him to handle

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

or we can pray marriaga drags him into a war and it is too much for him to handle

Lettuce pray for fukkery

 

[Newzz]

or we can pray marriaga drags him into a war and it is too much for him to handle

Lettuce pray for fukkery

If Loma easily outclasses him as well, beating him easier than both Oscar Valdez & Nicholas Walters, can we put some respeck on his name?

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

If Loma easily outclasses him as well, beating him easier than both Oscar Valdez & Nicholas Walters, can we put some respeck on his name?

Nope.. Valdez is just emerging from prospect status and and Walters is Walters. We can only assume Loma will outclass him. He's moving up in weight and he's gate keeper status. If Loma doesn't outclass him that will be a problem. He was brought in to make Loma look good on national tv and he will do just that. Loma was just P4P#1 and still is in some people eyes. So he should be above showcase fights at this stage in his career.

 

[reservoirdogs]

or we can pray marriaga drags him into a war and it is too much for him to handle

nah Sosa didn't, Roman didn't, Marriaga also won't
These are the same breed of exciting but only B level brawlers.