The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
That guy is the truth. IF the fight will be made next year 2017 will be one of the most stacked years in a long timeMonster is a monster....can we get him vs Chocalito in 2017 please
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Gonzalez is already asking for more money to face Cuadras again......so I doubt he gets enough money to make him bite on getting in the ring with Monster.
Khan is thirsty af for that Brook fight all of a sudden
But Khan wants a tune up in April then won't fight til December
Brook has to fight Spence before that... They can't postpone that mando for 12 damn months from now
Khan out here like an evil villan N shyt with this level of chess
He's either
A.) Talking tough but actually ducking...delaying the fight so Brook has to fight Spence then Brook loses N Khansince there's no more belt ...the fight not "intriguing" anymore
Or
B.) Khan trying to soften Brook tf up by getting him after he's fought GGG N Spence back to back
He probably feels he has a better chance of beating Kell Brook than either Thurman/Garcia (which I agree with), so I can see him doing option B.
@HARLEM AL @patscorpio
Did yall see this new sparring footage from yesterday that @SuikodenII posted?
Looks like the activity increased in Day 2 of sparring and he was going to the body as well
Sparring with a Middleweight who's stalking and being aggressive in anticipation of facing Granados' style
The punch placement
The movement
The speed
The power
The PROBLEM
#AboutBillions
:aboutbillions:
Khan wants brook now that he got his face broke against GGG....plus it's still a big fight he has left that can make him big money
The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
The way Mikey was beating on salido..... like 5 knockdowns. That was straight up savage
STEPHEN EDWARDS OPENS UP ON JULIAN WILLIAMS' LOSS TO JERMALL CHARLO: "THAT WAS HIGH LEVEL STUFF IN THERE"
By Percy Crawford | December 27, 2016
PC: The fight against Jermall Charlo didn't go the way you guys wanted it to go. What did you think of the effort Julian Williams gave you?
SE: He put up a great effort, but you know what, I expected him to put up a great effort. I thought he was doing a lot of good things in there. That was high level stuff in there, man. At one point, they were countering each other's counters and you don't really see that. At one time, they both shot right hands and let it slide over each other's shoulders and did it again. It was like a double trade right hands. It was some real good stuff in there. I always knew Julian had a lot of heart and I knew his skills was at an elite level. I wasn't surprised, but nobody is happy with second place. We came to win the fight, but I always knew he was on the level.
PC: Was there anything that Jermall did during the course of the fight that was a surprise to you guys or something that you didn't see him do prior so you didn't prepare for it?
SE: You know what, I know Jermall. I've been watching Jermall for like 3 years now. The first time him and Julian fought on the same card was on the Matthysse and Mike Dallas card at the Hard Rock. Jermall fought before Julian and he fought before his twin brother. He fought a kid named something [Josh] Williams. It's kind of ironic. But I looked at him then and this was 3 1/2, maybe 4 years ago, and I was like, "He's okay! He's a little big, but he's not as fluid as Julian and not as fluid as his brother." I could see why he fought before them because Julian got the Showtime Extreme spot that night. They were both pups coming up, but I could see that he wasn't as advanced as Julian and his brother. I been watching him and I think he fought 7 times that year and the kid improved. He has the right to improve and he started adding stuff to his game. He was kind of just a one-two guy; just a jab and a right hand. And then he started getting the check hook and he started putting more punches to his game. And then I noticed he wasn't just big anymore; he started becoming big and imposing. It's really no big deal for a guy to just be big if you're not imposing with your size because you're just a big target at that point. I noticed he started becoming big and imposing as time went on and I told Julian, "Yo bro, we got a fight on our hands." And Julian knew that. I won't say nothing really surprised me, but going into the fight, I thought that our advantage would be Julian's hand speed and our punch variety. I thought we were the more fluid puncher. I still think it was an advantage, but it wasn't by as much as I hoped it to be. It was like if Julian's punch variety, punch fluidity, and hand speed was maybe on a 9, Jermall's was at 8.2. We weren't as dominant in that area as I thought we would be, even though we had the advantage.
PC: Do you feel that Julian ever recovered from the knockdown he suffered in the 2nd round?
SE: I probably would say he never fully recovered, but it's hard to really tell. He told me that he did. I think that a shot before that may have buzzed him a little bit and that shot was just a mixture...it definitely hurt him, but at the same time, I feel it was balance and a matter of him being hurt. What happened was Julian jumped up too darn fast and that was just inexperience of not being hurt before. We go over that kind of stuff, but he jumped up to show everybody he wasn't hurt and when he got up, his legs was a little bit off because the oxygen wasn't flowing to his legs right. But it's weird because he got up and started cracking Jermall. He told me, "Man, I was cool. I just jumped up too fast." I remember Jermall kind of stepped to him and he hit him with a counter hook and pushed him against the ropes and he cracked Jermall with a one-two down the middle. He actually had a good round, he just got dropped with the jab. It probably took his legs away from him, but I think it was a combination of the shot buzzing him and him jumping up too damn fast and that made it look worse than what it was.
PC: Hindsight is always the clearest view. Have you gone back and watched the fight, and as a trainer, would you change anything if you could do it over again?
SE: Yes, I watched the fight when I got home because when you're watching the fight as it's going on, you can't appreciate it. When you know the outcome and everything is calmed down, you can watch it and kind of critique it. I thought Julian fought a really, really good fight. I think the one part that is unfair to him is that there is a false narrative that he was being dominated or that he didn't belong or that the fight was easy for Jermall and that wasn't the case at all. I thought Julian was countering Jermall really, really good with his jab and a really good right hand to take away Jermall's jab, because Jermall has a really good jab. I thought he was using the ring really good. If I could change something, I think he got greedy. It wasn't a lucky punch Jermall hit him with. That was a high level and skilled punch, but Julian had to give him the opportunity to land that punch. He over-shot a right hand and he had to be compliant to be hit with an uppercut like that. He threw the right hand from too far out and he kept his feet too far back and he over-shot the punch. He kind of like fell into it and it was a great shot by Jermall. It wasn't luck at all; it took great skill. Jermall actually made a great move because Julian was counterpunching Jermall really well, so Jermall let Julian lead and he counterpunched him and actually, the shot was such a good shot because Julian was coming back with a hook. People thought his arms were flaring because he was disconnected; his arms flared because Jermall actually shot the right uppercut between Julian's right hand. If Jermall shot that shot a half of second later, he could have been knocked out because Julian's body was torqued over to that side. He was coming back with a nasty hook. He just never got a chance to get it there because Jermall brought the uppercut in between. I just think that he got a little bit anxious and that comes with maturity and a processing ability. He was boxing a good fight and got anxious. He got anxious in the moment and it cost him!
PC: Obviously the aftermath of a knockout loss is criticism. The thing I'm seeing the most are people criticizing Julian's level of opposition heading into such a big fight. How do you respond to that criticism?
SE: I've had a lot of Monday Morning Quarterbacks and people asking me why didn't I get him tougher fights and things like that. Here is the thing, I'm not a matchmaker and I'm not a promoter. If you look at Julian and Jermall's records, look at their records, don't take my word, but look at their competition level up until they got a title shot. Julian actually fought better fighters towards getting the title. He fought two undefeated kids towards getting the title. The separation of their competition level is one fighter and that's Austin Trout. Jermall gained valuable experience in fighting Austin Trout. Everything else is even or I think it goes slightly in Julian's favor as far as the competition level goes. But Percy, I can't help that. Think about this, in order to get this fight, I took a fight with Michel Soro against my better judgement. Michel Soro can fight. Plus nobody cares about him because he's a Frenchmen of African decent; he's not promoted over here, so he gets overlooked. That dude can fight. We took that fight just to get the eliminator. But for whatever reason, he didn't take the fight, so we moved down the list and we got Marcello Matano. I'm not going to make him out to be Jake LaMotta because he wasn't. What am I supposed to say at that point? So every time somebody asks me that, I say, "What were my alternatives that I had?" We took a tough fight to get the eliminator. Then after that, I took the Austin Trout fight; twice! The fight was never made. That would have gave us that valuable experience. I know Austin Trout is a tough out. He's a cagey veteran, he understands his way around the ring, and he's a solid fighter. I took the fight. I took a fight in February of 2015 with Vanes Martirosyan. Vanes Martirosyan is no joke. You saw his fight with Lara; he won 5 or 6 rounds against Lara. The dude can fight. I took that fight. I took tough fights; I can't help it if the fights never materialized. I'm not saying guys didn't want to fight him or were scared of him. Vanes fought Lara and Andrade and Jermell Charlo, he wasn't scared of Julian. He just said, "I'll fight Jermell instead of Julian." Okay, what are we supposed to do? The reason why I took the Joey Hernandez fight is because I wanted him to get some experience against southpaws because I thought he was fighting Austin Trout. I can't help it if Jermall got the Austin Trout fight, which probably gave him more valuable experience.
We may not be having this conversation if Julian didn't over-shoot that right hand. Like I said Percy, I watched the fight as clear as I could and as objectively as I could. Jermall Charlo and Julian Williams was an even fight and Jermall just caught him. I think Julian was outboxing him, I really do. The judges had it 2 rounds a piece. I thought Julian won 3 rounds. I thought he won the first round. The judges had him winning the third and the fourth. I thought he won the first round. I'm not a big punch star guy, but I thought he was out-landing him and I thought Julian was jabbing with him on equal terms. It's easy to play Monday Morning Quarterback, but I took the necessary fights to get us to this point and sometimes you gain experience in a loss. People are going to have their opinions and you gotta live with that, but most of the time, people don't share their opinions until the results come in.
STEPHEN EDWARDS OPENS UP ON JULIAN WILLIAMS' LOSS TO JERMALL CHARLO: "THAT WAS HIGH LEVEL STUFF IN THERE" || FIGHTHYPE.COM
I agree
By Percy Crawford | December 27, 2016
PC: The fight against Jermall Charlo didn't go the way you guys wanted it to go. What did you think of the effort Julian Williams gave you?
SE: He put up a great effort, but you know what, I expected him to put up a great effort. I thought he was doing a lot of good things in there. That was high level stuff in there, man. At one point, they were countering each other's counters and you don't really see that. At one time, they both shot right hands and let it slide over each other's shoulders and did it again. It was like a double trade right hands. It was some real good stuff in there. I always knew Julian had a lot of heart and I knew his skills was at an elite level. I wasn't surprised, but nobody is happy with second place. We came to win the fight, but I always knew he was on the level.
PC: Was there anything that Jermall did during the course of the fight that was a surprise to you guys or something that you didn't see him do prior so you didn't prepare for it?
SE: You know what, I know Jermall. I've been watching Jermall for like 3 years now. The first time him and Julian fought on the same card was on the Matthysse and Mike Dallas card at the Hard Rock. Jermall fought before Julian and he fought before his twin brother. He fought a kid named something [Josh] Williams. It's kind of ironic. But I looked at him then and this was 3 1/2, maybe 4 years ago, and I was like, "He's okay! He's a little big, but he's not as fluid as Julian and not as fluid as his brother." I could see why he fought before them because Julian got the Showtime Extreme spot that night. They were both pups coming up, but I could see that he wasn't as advanced as Julian and his brother. I been watching him and I think he fought 7 times that year and the kid improved. He has the right to improve and he started adding stuff to his game. He was kind of just a one-two guy; just a jab and a right hand. And then he started getting the check hook and he started putting more punches to his game. And then I noticed he wasn't just big anymore; he started becoming big and imposing. It's really no big deal for a guy to just be big if you're not imposing with your size because you're just a big target at that point. I noticed he started becoming big and imposing as time went on and I told Julian, "Yo bro, we got a fight on our hands." And Julian knew that. I won't say nothing really surprised me, but going into the fight, I thought that our advantage would be Julian's hand speed and our punch variety. I thought we were the more fluid puncher. I still think it was an advantage, but it wasn't by as much as I hoped it to be. It was like if Julian's punch variety, punch fluidity, and hand speed was maybe on a 9, Jermall's was at 8.2. We weren't as dominant in that area as I thought we would be, even though we had the advantage.
PC: Do you feel that Julian ever recovered from the knockdown he suffered in the 2nd round?
SE: I probably would say he never fully recovered, but it's hard to really tell. He told me that he did. I think that a shot before that may have buzzed him a little bit and that shot was just a mixture...it definitely hurt him, but at the same time, I feel it was balance and a matter of him being hurt. What happened was Julian jumped up too darn fast and that was just inexperience of not being hurt before. We go over that kind of stuff, but he jumped up to show everybody he wasn't hurt and when he got up, his legs was a little bit off because the oxygen wasn't flowing to his legs right. But it's weird because he got up and started cracking Jermall. He told me, "Man, I was cool. I just jumped up too fast." I remember Jermall kind of stepped to him and he hit him with a counter hook and pushed him against the ropes and he cracked Jermall with a one-two down the middle. He actually had a good round, he just got dropped with the jab. It probably took his legs away from him, but I think it was a combination of the shot buzzing him and him jumping up too damn fast and that made it look worse than what it was.
PC: Hindsight is always the clearest view. Have you gone back and watched the fight, and as a trainer, would you change anything if you could do it over again?
SE: Yes, I watched the fight when I got home because when you're watching the fight as it's going on, you can't appreciate it. When you know the outcome and everything is calmed down, you can watch it and kind of critique it. I thought Julian fought a really, really good fight. I think the one part that is unfair to him is that there is a false narrative that he was being dominated or that he didn't belong or that the fight was easy for Jermall and that wasn't the case at all. I thought Julian was countering Jermall really, really good with his jab and a really good right hand to take away Jermall's jab, because Jermall has a really good jab. I thought he was using the ring really good. If I could change something, I think he got greedy. It wasn't a lucky punch Jermall hit him with. That was a high level and skilled punch, but Julian had to give him the opportunity to land that punch. He over-shot a right hand and he had to be compliant to be hit with an uppercut like that. He threw the right hand from too far out and he kept his feet too far back and he over-shot the punch. He kind of like fell into it and it was a great shot by Jermall. It wasn't luck at all; it took great skill. Jermall actually made a great move because Julian was counterpunching Jermall really well, so Jermall let Julian lead and he counterpunched him and actually, the shot was such a good shot because Julian was coming back with a hook. People thought his arms were flaring because he was disconnected; his arms flared because Jermall actually shot the right uppercut between Julian's right hand. If Jermall shot that shot a half of second later, he could have been knocked out because Julian's body was torqued over to that side. He was coming back with a nasty hook. He just never got a chance to get it there because Jermall brought the uppercut in between. I just think that he got a little bit anxious and that comes with maturity and a processing ability. He was boxing a good fight and got anxious. He got anxious in the moment and it cost him!
PC: Obviously the aftermath of a knockout loss is criticism. The thing I'm seeing the most are people criticizing Julian's level of opposition heading into such a big fight. How do you respond to that criticism?
SE: I've had a lot of Monday Morning Quarterbacks and people asking me why didn't I get him tougher fights and things like that. Here is the thing, I'm not a matchmaker and I'm not a promoter. If you look at Julian and Jermall's records, look at their records, don't take my word, but look at their competition level up until they got a title shot. Julian actually fought better fighters towards getting the title. He fought two undefeated kids towards getting the title. The separation of their competition level is one fighter and that's Austin Trout. Jermall gained valuable experience in fighting Austin Trout. Everything else is even or I think it goes slightly in Julian's favor as far as the competition level goes. But Percy, I can't help that. Think about this, in order to get this fight, I took a fight with Michel Soro against my better judgement. Michel Soro can fight. Plus nobody cares about him because he's a Frenchmen of African decent; he's not promoted over here, so he gets overlooked. That dude can fight. We took that fight just to get the eliminator. But for whatever reason, he didn't take the fight, so we moved down the list and we got Marcello Matano. I'm not going to make him out to be Jake LaMotta because he wasn't. What am I supposed to say at that point? So every time somebody asks me that, I say, "What were my alternatives that I had?" We took a tough fight to get the eliminator. Then after that, I took the Austin Trout fight; twice! The fight was never made. That would have gave us that valuable experience. I know Austin Trout is a tough out. He's a cagey veteran, he understands his way around the ring, and he's a solid fighter. I took the fight. I took a fight in February of 2015 with Vanes Martirosyan. Vanes Martirosyan is no joke. You saw his fight with Lara; he won 5 or 6 rounds against Lara. The dude can fight. I took that fight. I took tough fights; I can't help it if the fights never materialized. I'm not saying guys didn't want to fight him or were scared of him. Vanes fought Lara and Andrade and Jermell Charlo, he wasn't scared of Julian. He just said, "I'll fight Jermell instead of Julian." Okay, what are we supposed to do? The reason why I took the Joey Hernandez fight is because I wanted him to get some experience against southpaws because I thought he was fighting Austin Trout. I can't help it if Jermall got the Austin Trout fight, which probably gave him more valuable experience.
We may not be having this conversation if Julian didn't over-shoot that right hand. Like I said Percy, I watched the fight as clear as I could and as objectively as I could. Jermall Charlo and Julian Williams was an even fight and Jermall just caught him. I think Julian was outboxing him, I really do. The judges had it 2 rounds a piece. I thought Julian won 3 rounds. I thought he won the first round. The judges had him winning the third and the fourth. I thought he won the first round. I'm not a big punch star guy, but I thought he was out-landing him and I thought Julian was jabbing with him on equal terms. It's easy to play Monday Morning Quarterback, but I took the necessary fights to get us to this point and sometimes you gain experience in a loss. People are going to have their opinions and you gotta live with that, but most of the time, people don't share their opinions until the results come in.
STEPHEN EDWARDS OPENS UP ON JULIAN WILLIAMS' LOSS TO JERMALL CHARLO: "THAT WAS HIGH LEVEL STUFF IN THERE" || FIGHTHYPE.COM
I agree
Axum Ezana
Driving in the fast lane
STEPHEN EDWARDS OPENS UP ON JULIAN WILLIAMS' LOSS TO JERMALL CHARLO: "THAT WAS HIGH LEVEL STUFF IN THERE"
By Percy Crawford | December 27, 2016
PC: The fight against Jermall Charlo didn't go the way you guys wanted it to go. What did you think of the effort Julian Williams gave you?
SE: He put up a great effort, but you know what, I expected him to put up a great effort. I thought he was doing a lot of good things in there. That was high level stuff in there, man. At one point, they were countering each other's counters and you don't really see that. At one time, they both shot right hands and let it slide over each other's shoulders and did it again. It was like a double trade right hands. It was some real good stuff in there. I always knew Julian had a lot of heart and I knew his skills was at an elite level. I wasn't surprised, but nobody is happy with second place. We came to win the fight, but I always knew he was on the level.
PC: Was there anything that Jermall did during the course of the fight that was a surprise to you guys or something that you didn't see him do prior so you didn't prepare for it?
SE: You know what, I know Jermall. I've been watching Jermall for like 3 years now. The first time him and Julian fought on the same card was on the Matthysse and Mike Dallas card at the Hard Rock. Jermall fought before Julian and he fought before his twin brother. He fought a kid named something [Josh] Williams. It's kind of ironic. But I looked at him then and this was 3 1/2, maybe 4 years ago, and I was like, "He's okay! He's a little big, but he's not as fluid as Julian and not as fluid as his brother." I could see why he fought before them because Julian got the Showtime Extreme spot that night. They were both pups coming up, but I could see that he wasn't as advanced as Julian and his brother. I been watching him and I think he fought 7 times that year and the kid improved. He has the right to improve and he started adding stuff to his game. He was kind of just a one-two guy; just a jab and a right hand. And then he started getting the check hook and he started putting more punches to his game. And then I noticed he wasn't just big anymore; he started becoming big and imposing. It's really no big deal for a guy to just be big if you're not imposing with your size because you're just a big target at that point. I noticed he started becoming big and imposing as time went on and I told Julian, "Yo bro, we got a fight on our hands." And Julian knew that. I won't say nothing really surprised me, but going into the fight, I thought that our advantage would be Julian's hand speed and our punch variety. I thought we were the more fluid puncher. I still think it was an advantage, but it wasn't by as much as I hoped it to be. It was like if Julian's punch variety, punch fluidity, and hand speed was maybe on a 9, Jermall's was at 8.2. We weren't as dominant in that area as I thought we would be, even though we had the advantage.
PC: Do you feel that Julian ever recovered from the knockdown he suffered in the 2nd round?
SE: I probably would say he never fully recovered, but it's hard to really tell. He told me that he did. I think that a shot before that may have buzzed him a little bit and that shot was just a mixture...it definitely hurt him, but at the same time, I feel it was balance and a matter of him being hurt. What happened was Julian jumped up too darn fast and that was just inexperience of not being hurt before. We go over that kind of stuff, but he jumped up to show everybody he wasn't hurt and when he got up, his legs was a little bit off because the oxygen wasn't flowing to his legs right. But it's weird because he got up and started cracking Jermall. He told me, "Man, I was cool. I just jumped up too fast." I remember Jermall kind of stepped to him and he hit him with a counter hook and pushed him against the ropes and he cracked Jermall with a one-two down the middle. He actually had a good round, he just got dropped with the jab. It probably took his legs away from him, but I think it was a combination of the shot buzzing him and him jumping up too damn fast and that made it look worse than what it was.
PC: Hindsight is always the clearest view. Have you gone back and watched the fight, and as a trainer, would you change anything if you could do it over again?
SE: Yes, I watched the fight when I got home because when you're watching the fight as it's going on, you can't appreciate it. When you know the outcome and everything is calmed down, you can watch it and kind of critique it. I thought Julian fought a really, really good fight. I think the one part that is unfair to him is that there is a false narrative that he was being dominated or that he didn't belong or that the fight was easy for Jermall and that wasn't the case at all. I thought Julian was countering Jermall really, really good with his jab and a really good right hand to take away Jermall's jab, because Jermall has a really good jab. I thought he was using the ring really good. If I could change something, I think he got greedy. It wasn't a lucky punch Jermall hit him with. That was a high level and skilled punch, but Julian had to give him the opportunity to land that punch. He over-shot a right hand and he had to be compliant to be hit with an uppercut like that. He threw the right hand from too far out and he kept his feet too far back and he over-shot the punch. He kind of like fell into it and it was a great shot by Jermall. It wasn't luck at all; it took great skill. Jermall actually made a great move because Julian was counterpunching Jermall really well, so Jermall let Julian lead and he counterpunched him and actually, the shot was such a good shot because Julian was coming back with a hook. People thought his arms were flaring because he was disconnected; his arms flared because Jermall actually shot the right uppercut between Julian's right hand. If Jermall shot that shot a half of second later, he could have been knocked out because Julian's body was torqued over to that side. He was coming back with a nasty hook. He just never got a chance to get it there because Jermall brought the uppercut in between. I just think that he got a little bit anxious and that comes with maturity and a processing ability. He was boxing a good fight and got anxious. He got anxious in the moment and it cost him!
PC: Obviously the aftermath of a knockout loss is criticism. The thing I'm seeing the most are people criticizing Julian's level of opposition heading into such a big fight. How do you respond to that criticism?
SE: I've had a lot of Monday Morning Quarterbacks and people asking me why didn't I get him tougher fights and things like that. Here is the thing, I'm not a matchmaker and I'm not a promoter. If you look at Julian and Jermall's records, look at their records, don't take my word, but look at their competition level up until they got a title shot. Julian actually fought better fighters towards getting the title. He fought two undefeated kids towards getting the title. The separation of their competition level is one fighter and that's Austin Trout. Jermall gained valuable experience in fighting Austin Trout. Everything else is even or I think it goes slightly in Julian's favor as far as the competition level goes. But Percy, I can't help that. Think about this, in order to get this fight, I took a fight with Michel Soro against my better judgement. Michel Soro can fight. Plus nobody cares about him because he's a Frenchmen of African decent; he's not promoted over here, so he gets overlooked. That dude can fight. We took that fight just to get the eliminator. But for whatever reason, he didn't take the fight, so we moved down the list and we got Marcello Matano. I'm not going to make him out to be Jake LaMotta because he wasn't. What am I supposed to say at that point? So every time somebody asks me that, I say, "What were my alternatives that I had?" We took a tough fight to get the eliminator. Then after that, I took the Austin Trout fight; twice! The fight was never made. That would have gave us that valuable experience. I know Austin Trout is a tough out. He's a cagey veteran, he understands his way around the ring, and he's a solid fighter. I took the fight. I took a fight in February of 2015 with Vanes Martirosyan. Vanes Martirosyan is no joke. You saw his fight with Lara; he won 5 or 6 rounds against Lara. The dude can fight. I took that fight. I took tough fights; I can't help it if the fights never materialized. I'm not saying guys didn't want to fight him or were scared of him. Vanes fought Lara and Andrade and Jermell Charlo, he wasn't scared of Julian. He just said, "I'll fight Jermell instead of Julian." Okay, what are we supposed to do? The reason why I took the Joey Hernandez fight is because I wanted him to get some experience against southpaws because I thought he was fighting Austin Trout. I can't help it if Jermall got the Austin Trout fight, which probably gave him more valuable experience.
We may not be having this conversation if Julian didn't over-shoot that right hand. Like I said Percy, I watched the fight as clear as I could and as objectively as I could. Jermall Charlo and Julian Williams was an even fight and Jermall just caught him. I think Julian was outboxing him, I really do. The judges had it 2 rounds a piece. I thought Julian won 3 rounds. I thought he won the first round. The judges had him winning the third and the fourth. I thought he won the first round. I'm not a big punch star guy, but I thought he was out-landing him and I thought Julian was jabbing with him on equal terms. It's easy to play Monday Morning Quarterback, but I took the necessary fights to get us to this point and sometimes you gain experience in a loss. People are going to have their opinions and you gotta live with that, but most of the time, people don't share their opinions until the results come in.
STEPHEN EDWARDS OPENS UP ON JULIAN WILLIAMS' LOSS TO JERMALL CHARLO: "THAT WAS HIGH LEVEL STUFF IN THERE" || FIGHTHYPE.COM
I agree
yeah I think Williams got a bit too over confident too early cause he was having a lil successs with counter and he had better speed....but once again this proves that skilled timing beats speed.
ChocolateGiddyUp
Superstar
I fukking love how Jermall fought Trout N it was
"he's ducking JRock"
"He's scary"
"Hell vacate before fighting JRock"
"No reason to fight Trout"
"This the problem with boxing"
Jermall gives JRock that Shoryuken from the depths of hell
N its "bu bu bu but Charlo got so much experience from fighting a strong veteran like Trout"
"Such valuable experience"
"he's ducking JRock"
"He's scary"
"Hell vacate before fighting JRock"
"No reason to fight Trout"
"This the problem with boxing"
Jermall gives JRock that Shoryuken from the depths of hell
N its "bu bu bu but Charlo got so much experience from fighting a strong veteran like Trout"
"Such valuable experience"
((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL
Hussle & Motivate
Axum Ezana
Driving in the fast lane
I fukking love how Jermall fought Trout N it was
"he's ducking JRock"
"He's scary"
"Hell vacate before fighting JRock"
"No reason to fight Trout"
"This the problem with boxing"
Jermall gives JRock that Shoryuken from the depths of hell
N its "bu bu bu but Charlo got so much experience from fighting a strong veteran like Trout"
"Such valuable experience"
its true tho.....no one saying jermall not better. because he took him down with skill.
it aint like people saying it was a lucky punch like khan/garcia
Algieri vs Haymon's first Franken-ruinboxing experiment Berto on Garcia/Thurman undercard
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The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
Lubin is espn prospect of the year 2016 ESPN.com prospect of the year