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"Ay Chris...you dun :ufdup: nika. Yeah, I accept your challenge. Get Adrien Broner on the phone & Im gon beat yo a$$":heh:










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Whats with these Popstar ass dudes acting like they tough?
And why Chris Brown look like he just came off a 3 week heroin binge?
 

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Ever since Crawfords fight against Postol there has been a narrative in this thread that Crawford somehow missed his opportunity to be a PPV star because of the way he fought Postol,I simply disagree with that notion for a variety of reasons. Craw does not have any of the ingredients to become a PPV star as of today.

Factor #1 is having a strong national/regional presence in a boxing market that matters ( ex Canelo & JCC Jr. in Mexico, Anthony Joshua in the UK,Cotto PR/NY) fact that Crawford is trying to establish a home base in Nebraska is a good thing but let's be reality,Omaha does not matter.Black american fighters usually struggle in this area regardless because we don't have a built in nationalistic base that craves boxing.Jamaican-American/Haitian-American aren't really large rabid boxing fan bases.The example of fighters i listed all have huge nationalistic/regional fan bases that will support their fighter with their wallet.He does not and it's not really his fault. Strike #1

Factor#2
Strong marketability. Whether it's because of your looks,being at the right place at the right time or your ability to talk shyt you need to give people a reason to spend money to watch you fight.The textbook example of this is Floyd Mayweather.Other examples include Oscar De La Hoya,Sugar Ray Leonard ,Mike Tyson and Conor Mcgregor/Adrien Broner as a current example. Floyd,Conor and Adrien are boxing/UFC villains based on the way they market themselves and that's how they are natrually.People will tune in just to see them lose.Oscar was the total package,he had to looks,he was Mexican-American,had the skills and was loved earlier on.That's why he was a superstar. TCraw does not have a naturally engaging personality and is ugly as fukk :yeshrug:.Strike #2

Factor#3.A breakthrough performance(s) that make you explode onto the sports scene.An example of this include Manny Pacquaio taking out Marco Antonio Barrera. Before that fight Manny was looked at as an intriguing fighter but he wasn't a star by any means.After the fight Larry Merchant stated"This is a fight that will shake up the boxing world”.That's all that needs to be said. Manny went on to have classic fights with the remaining two of the Mexican trio(Morales,Marquez) and the rest is history.HBO is currently trying to do that with GGG but the difference is that Manny ran through legit legends,GGG out here knocking out WCW Thunder level jobbers (whether that's all his fault is up for debate.)UFC successfully followed this blueprint with Rousey. Other examples of iconic performances that made boxing superstars would be the classic Ali-Liston,Mayweather-Gatti,Mosley-De La Hoya and The Ward-Gatti trilogy.

The last factor is where I think TCraw could have his breakthrough.If TCraw somehow gets Manny into the ring and puts on an Iconic performance that'll be his best chance in becoming a huge star.It could be his Floyd-Gatti/Shane Mosley-ODH moment.If TCraw puts on a highly technical but dominant Postol-like performance then i would admit that he may have missed his moment. however the Postol fight in the grand scheme of things really does not matter.As of right now he doesn't have any of the pre-requisites that are needed to be a boxing star.However,there are a few current fighters I do believe can reach that status if the stars align and boxing gets it's shyt together.


2. he can change factor 2 but I don't think he would. he might tho. don't know. Shannon briggs has showed how to market ur self from literally no where.lol

3. yeah I been said that. everyone knows that the only person craw really needs to breakthrough is pac. but Garcia, mikey and broner would be good build ups. even Thurman would or spence would be good draw wins if won in the right fashion.


please reframe from the chatty patty "look" stuff. that don't got nothing to do with it @Jae would need to tell me if women pay more attention to boxers they are attracted to.
 

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Please... :noah:
You don't want to suggest that either Vargas or Jeff Horn touches Bradley's level, do you? :sitdown:
Rubber match or not Bradley at least is a class above Vargas and Horn.
Don't get lost in these ABC rankings now, we are both boxing fans we both know what's up and that whatever how Vargas was a champion and how ranked Horn is they aren't THAT nice...

Especially that for an Arum fighter to get a WBO belt eliminator or just a high raking on their list is as easy as for me cleaning out my room on an afternoon or buying a Coke in the liquor store...

I didn't suggest anything, I just spoke facts..
Bottomline, if you wanna fight with Pac he aint hard to find and he aint hiding.

how is getting ranked under the WBO any easier than gettig ranked on any other sanction?
 

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I didn't suggest anything, I just spoke facts..
Bottomline, if you wanna fight with Pac he aint hard to find and he aint hiding.

how is getting ranked under the WBO any easier than gettig ranked on any other sanction?

What you mean "how"? WBO is Arum's house organization that's how... :yeshrug:
I'm not into conspiracy theories man, but even the blind can see how biased this organization with Arum, they have a special bond.
 

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AB, Danny and to a lesser extent Keith are all naturally more marketable than TCraw by far.With AB you can tell he's being authentic when he's cutting promo's after the fight.He's naturally an arrogant a$$hole and in boxing there is nothing wrong with that.He has one of the most engaging personalities in sports period and that is what separates him from the other 3.Thurman who does have a nice promo game isn't on the Level of AB.Danny's pops is excellent at drawing attention with his antics which keeps Danny's name hot.However ,Danny has another advantage of being Rican and hailing from a boxing hotbed in Philly. If Craw attempted to take the AB,Danny,Thurman route i don't believe it would come off as authentic which is why i believe the best way for him to achieve stardom would be factor #3,having an iconic performance.

Besides knocking off Manny the only other fight I can currently see launching TCraw into stardom would be to have classic fight(s) with Adrien Broner on some Barrera-Morales shyt in which they had legendary fights which ultimately led to a PPV that did relatively well.If they both were to fight Broner would indeed be the A side like you said,there shouldn't be any doubt about that.And this outcome(Craw-Broner) is unlikely because

1) Doesn't seem to be any indication that these two would want to fight

2) Bob and Haymon

3) Broner does not need TCraw,he's the money maker.He has other lucrative opportunities which include a possible fight with Manny that would absolutely be a bigger fight than TCraw vs Manny.Broner would be in the unique situation of being the A side in a fight in which he has more to gain legacy wise than the fighter he's facing.

Broner could fight a countless amount of Haymon fighters at 140 and make bank,who does Top Rank/Golden Boy have for Craw outside of Manny who clearly doesn't want that fade at the moment.







craw just made 2mill(added money from Molina overweight) for Molina more than what broner made........lol depending on how much arum takes and fees and taxes.. he doing decent enough to not be worried like choc said.

funny but true. its a reason why he didn't go to haymon:russ:
 

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Please... :noah:
You don't want to suggest that either Vargas or Jeff Horn touches Bradley's level, do you? :sitdown:
Rubber match or not Bradley at least is a class above Vargas and Horn.
Don't get lost in these ABC rankings now, we are both boxing fans we both know what's up and that whatever how Vargas was a champion and how ranked Horn is they aren't THAT nice...

Especially that for an Arum fighter to get a WBO belt eliminator or just a high raking on their list is as easy as for me cleaning out my room on an afternoon or buying a Coke in the liquor store...


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Arum is so obvious with this shyt. He only wants Manny/Crawford and until he gets Manny to agree to it he is going to try to match him up with mediocre comp.

Purposely sandbagging Manny's ppv buys:ohhh:
 

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I didn't suggest anything, I just spoke facts..
Bottomline, if you wanna fight with Pac he aint hard to find and he aint hiding.

how is getting ranked under the WBO any easier than gettig ranked on any other sanction?

Timothy Bradley's last fight......he was dominated by Manny Pacquiao. He hasn't fought since April 2016.





He's currently the mandatory for Manny Pacquiao's belt and ranked #1 by the WBO though:comeon:



Arum has the WBO in his back pocket:wow:
 
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