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Good way to look at it, but JCC's power hasn't been anything special at 160 or above. I think his chin will hold up fine and it won't break down until later in the fight if Canelo gets to it by accumulation.
I think the difference will be skill and speed and JCC is lacking in both those departments. Give me Canelo by decision or late TKO.
I'm leaning there at the moment. Canelo is elite. Not sure about TKO though because Chavez has a granite chin but Canelo will hurt him to the body. His ring generalship, counter punching will be on point. Chavez will have reach and height. Should use it to his advantage but with how he fights. I'm rooting for the guy because that ruling on his marijuana bust with WBC was BS. @ChocolateGiddyUp knows about it. Certain fighters getting a slap on the wrist from boxing commissions for abusing women but JCC jr gets 9 months and Casamayor gets indefinite license suspension for marijuana but I digress :hubie:
 

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I was right this time :thurman:
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Preview: Jack-DeGale and undercard

Is it just me or anyone else doesn't find DeGale that huge of a talent as many people suggest it?
He is a good fighter and talented, no doubt but I don't see him that very special x factor what some people supposedly sees in him :yeshrug:
I don't think he would be so far ahead of Jack talent wise tbh... A little yeah but idk...
 

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Boxrec raking are really some woat shyt...

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How in the fukk Jack in only 7th, DeGale 5th while guys like Callum Smith (hasn't fought anyone notable yet), Groves (he lost to Jack ffs...) and Abraham :stopitslime: are ahead of them? :wtf:

Putting ahead of them is also some bullshyt, he has two good wins but both Jack and DeGale have better ones imo

they really should forget about this score system and just rank them as normal people do, this is why nobody give a fukk about their ratings anymore...
 

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I was right this time :thurman:
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What do you mean you were right breh? My response to that post was:

I think DeGale is gonna win because he's more skilled than Jack

..so I don't know what you were right about in

And at the end of the day, DeGale was the only one to have a card in his favor:manny:
 

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What do you mean you were right breh? My response to that post was:



..so I don't know what you were right about in

And at the end of the day, DeGale was the only one to have a card in his favor:manny:
What do you mean you were right breh? My response to that post was:



..so I don't know what you were right about in

And at the end of the day, DeGale was the only one to have a card in his favor:manny:
after that though

that's okay but that wasn't really the question in my post

btw if you already mentioned... for me it's a 50-50, everybody who favors DeGale does so cause his Olympic gold and that he had a good 6 rounds against Dirrell and that Jack had that fluke KO loss few years ago... but otherwise if I compare their last few fight, Badou Jack actually seemed more impressive. He clearly beat Dirrell, Groves and Bute even if the last one was only a draw on paper. DeGale pretty much looked like shyt against both Medina and Bute but he is still the favorite here cause there's that myth (or truth?) around DeGale that all thing that is wrong with him is his mentality and when he gets his shyt together he supposed to be clear cut above Jack's level. Again... based on that gold in amateurs and his first 6 rounds against Dirrell... That's what I question here... To me only cause of these it's not obvious that he would be such a bonafied talent as some people sees him (I know that an Olympic gold is a big achievement but I never really thought it's that important in pro boxing). Here's the Satuday for him to prove it...

*bookmarked for early Sunday morning*


I think DeGale's skill level is higher, and that will lead him to a comfortable win....we'll see in a little over 24 hours though:hubie:

:yeshrug:

Jack clearly proved that he belongs the same level or higher, DeGale didn't look like the "clearly more talented but mentally unorganized" fighter there, he was as collected as he can.

and c'mon with hat last sentence, did YOU score it for DeGale? :usure:
 

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after that though





:yeshrug:

Jack clearly proved that he belongs the same level or higher, DeGale didn't look like the "clearly more talented but mentally unorganized" fighter there, he was as collected as he can.

Jack didn't prove he belongs on the same level or higher...there was nothing he did that showed better technical skill than DeGale imo. Maybe similar level of Boxer, which I never spoke on...only their technical skill, but he's not as technically skilled to me.

As far as what you put in quotations...I never said that, so where are you getting that quote from?:ohhh:



and c'mon with hat last sentence, did YOU score it for DeGale? :usure:

I didn't score the fight, but the judges did.

The best outcome for Jack was a draw...none of the judges thought he won at all. However, DeGale did win on one of the judges cards.
 
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Jack didn't prove he belongs on the same level or higher...there was nothing he did that showed better technical skill than DeGale imo. Maybe similar level of Boxer, which I never spoke on...only their technical skill, but he's not as technically skilled to me.

As far as what you put in quotations...I never said that, so where are you getting that quote from?:ohhh:





I didn't score the fight, but the judges did.

The best outcome for Jack was a draw...none of the judges thought he won at all. However, DeGale did win on one of the judges cards.

Nah I said the first one and you replied with the one starting with you bookmarking my post for Sunday morning

Jack clearly proved me that he is jut as skilled as DeGale. Better inside work, constant bodywork, good rangy jab, pretty solid defense, nice uppercuts and overhand rights.

DeGale showed nice footwork and threw flashy combos from the pocket but most of them landed on gloves/arms, I most definitely didn't see that skill gap everyone was talking about before the fight :manny: DeGale definitely didn't look like the talented unorganized genius vs a had working average guy

More people think Jack won and this time rightfully so
a draw might be justifiable imo a DeGale win not really, I had it for Jack
 

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How in the fukk Jack in only 7th, DeGale 5th while guys like Callum Smith (hasn't fought anyone notable yet), Groves (he lost to Jack ffs...) and Abraham :stopitslime: are ahead of them? :wtf:

Putting ahead of them is also some bullshyt, he has two good wins but both Jack and DeGale have better ones imo

they really should forget about this score system and just rank them as normal people do, this is why nobody give a fukk about their ratings anymore...
Didn't abraham lose to Gilbert and have a highly questionable decision against murray? :gucci:
Not to mention Jack beat Groves and arguably won this fight he should be rated much higher :gucci:
 
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