Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

[Yuzo]

do know anything about his most prized prospect Bernard “Superbad” Mays? heard that guy would've been an atg but life got in the way.

they say he was cute but being he was a kronk boxer he probably had a nice mean streak too. amatuer star who just never seemed to make it big in the pros. but there are so so many guys who never do.

Its uncanny. I heard that Tommy Hearns didn't have much power before Manny trained him. Either he masterfully changes his punching mechanics and defied the whole notion of ''punchers are born'' either way he developed possibly the greatest right straight in welterweight history under Steward. Adonis Stevenson trained under Steward before his death and I kinda see shades of Hearns in him. I think Manny saw talent in Klitschko and harnessed that straight that Klitschko had and it was sniper-like.

g man had a very nice right hand too.

some things i check for on a right hand is full hip rotation, full weight transfer over the front leg, follow through. so by those standards, this right hand has everything. punchers may be born, but to my thinking, its hard to throw a weak right hand when you can do those things.

 

[Axum Ezana]

See that's the problem... You're rather still complaining about Duva tried to block it rather than e happy about that she COULDN'T so we will get Barrera vs Beterbiev possibly on Thurman vs Garcia uc



You can wait forever then...



I don't think that there was ever a time where good boxing fight were on EVERY week. Like... chill already, we have LSC vs Fampton II, Francisco Vargas vs Berchelt, Mikey vs Zlaticanin... all next Saturday and we just had DeGale vs Jack last Saturday. Boxing fans who expect good fights every single week are delusional... You won't get good matchups every week from basically nothing not just from boxing....



I'm not wondering cause nostalgia is always strong and everything looks better in retrospective. I believe that boxing politics are even more complicated nd fukked up now than in the "old days" but those days are over and it's time to get over it plus I doN't believe that everything was smooth back then either, boxig was always corrupted sport.



Mikey vs Zlaticanin
Frampton vs LSC II
Jack vs Degale
Davis vs Pedraza
Lemieux vs Stevens
Golovkin vs Jacobs
Thurman vs Garcia
Beterbiev vs Barrera
Wlad vs Joshua
Canelo vs Chavez
Rigo vs Flores


other high possibility fights:

Spence vs Brook
Wilder vs Parker
Stevenson vs Smith
Ward vs Kovalev II
Verdejo vs Flanagan
Usyk vs Gassiev
Loma vs Jezreel


Only the January - May 6th period. All except 3 are/were title fights, 5 unification fights. If that's not good enough for you then idk what you're used to and what would be sufficient...
Plus here are fights what we don't know about but will happen during this time


Many current boxing fans act like average looking guys whose standards are too high and would only like to date supermodels but since that will never come they just constantly complaining instead of lowering their standards a little.

and pressure? What pressure? All you do is complaining, they don't give a fukk.
Where are the petitions, where is the organized pressure toward promoters and networks? All I see is complaining and no actions. No community pressure, nothing... Cause boxing fans are rather busy slandering each other and starting race wars (not here though).

Either do something or don't. If you wanna revolt then revolt and not just complain... Cause constant crying in its own is just tiring and getting annoying aside of it's being pointless. Critics about the sport are legit you don't have to nod to everything but CONSTANT negativity is stupid. Like when someone only can recognize the minor bad even in the good...



Agree with this regardless but this is't what I was talking about

You didn't even seem to be someone who's always crying so I doN't even understand why you wrote this reply

naw breh. im talkin in general. ur good.

im not talking at u.

but yeah I agree breh with what u saying.

and u know what people have stopped complaining. boxing fans are showing it by not buying ppvs anymore.

sport fans will support the shyt if built right, promoted right man.

the best way to revolt is just don't pay attention and dont give them the money....

u say complaining but I look at it diff. WE SUPPORT THEM! they are nothing without us.

yall underestimate your worth and think u have to put up with this dumb boring ass bullshyt

yeah boxing doing okay but it can better. have higher standards even if they are unrealistic.......cause u know what if u don't the boxing promoters and boxers will be slack.

the "great fight every week" opinion is overblown but I do miss the Friday night fight shyt from time to time.

plus u gotta realize breh these media outlets are acting like stan now. they wont say anything bad about this side or that side. so the fans like us are gonna have to buying the product....hit em where it hurts imo...that's the most effective way without wasting ur breathe.lol

 

[Axum Ezana]

they say he was cute but being he was a kronk boxer he probably had a nice mean streak too. amatuer star who just never seemed to make it big in the pros. but there are so so many guys who never do.



g man had a very nice right hand too.

some things i check for on a right hand is full hip rotation, full weight transfer over the front leg, follow through. so by those standards, this right hand has everything. punchers may be born, but to my thinking, its hard to throw a weak right hand when you can do those things.

yuzo that right almost looks like a baseball pitcher throwing a fastball or some shyt....hmmmm. maybe not.lol

 

[The axe murderer]

they say he was cute but being he was a kronk boxer he probably had a nice mean streak too. amatuer star who just never seemed to make it big in the pros. but there are so so many guys who never do.



g man had a very nice right hand too.

some things i check for on a right hand is full hip rotation, full weight transfer over the front leg, follow through. so by those standards, this right hand has everything. punchers may be born, but to my thinking, its hard to throw a weak right hand when you can do those things.

G man was a scary man. Damn shame how his career ended

Klitschko did it so well even while putting his punches together

 

[Axum Ezana]

Got no idea. I remember seeing this interview in 2011

mayweather took those shots personal I heard breh.

heard he put duran as his no 2 overall fighter once steward said that srl/hearns would outbox him then stop him.

now Floyd is the real petty one..

 

[malbaker86]

Its uncanny. I heard that Tommy Hearns didn't have much power before Manny trained him. Either he masterfully changes his punching mechanics and defied the whole notion of ''punchers are born'' either way he developed possibly the greatest right straight in welterweight history under Steward. Adonis Stevenson trained under Steward before his death and I kinda see shades of Hearns in him. I think Manny saw talent in Klitschko and harnessed that straight that Klitschko had and it was sniper-like.

I was going to ask y'all all about this but since you've alluded to it, minus well piggy back on this....when it comes to punching power, are fighters "born" with that or is it something that can be added via technique and mechanics?

I ask because when I listened to RJJ commentate the JMM-Pac fight, he mentioned weightlifting helping him in his knockdown and knockout of Pac man when he was never able to KD him in their 3 previous fights. The KD and KO punches were punches he was landing in the first 3 fights but it didn't floor him.

 

[reservoirdogs]

naw breh. im talkin in general. ur good.

im not talking at u.

but yeah I agree breh with what u saying.

and u know what people have stopped complaining. boxing fans are showing it by not buying ppvs anymore.

sport fans will support the shyt if built right, promoted right man.

the best way to revolt is just don't pay attention and dont give them the money....

u say complaining but I look at it diff. WE SUPPORT THEM! they are nothing without us.

yall underestimate your worth and think u have to put up with this dumb boring ass bullshyt

yeah boxing doing okay but it can better. have higher standards even if they are unrealistic.......cause u know what if u don't the boxing promoters and boxers will be slack.

the "great fight every week" opinion is overblown but I do miss the Friday night fight shyt from time to time.

plus u gotta realize breh these media outlets are acting like stan now. they wont say anything bad about this side or that side. so the fans like us are gonna have to buying the product....hit em where it hurts imo...that's the most effective way without wasting ur breathe.lol

Agree. The bold part is very true, you can basically draw the lines in boxing media but there are exceptions luckily

btw I think we could do something but that would need bigger unity
If boxing fans would really unite and organize we could pressure the fukk out of all these promoters and networks but that needs time and high organization

 

[Yuzo]

yuzo that right almost looks like a baseball pitcher throwing a fastball or some shyt....hmmmm. maybe not.lol

yeah sort of. but pitchers use more hip to shoulder seperation to throw. hip to shoulder seperation is when your hips rotate in front of your arm and pull or yank your arm through into extension. hip to shoulder seperation is what causes your arm to turn into rubber and suddenly whip.

heres bob gibson throwing with good hip to shoulder seperation

and heres ferguson jenkins throwing with good hip to shoulder seperation

for comparison when a boxer throws a straight right hand there is no hip to shoulder seperation. the hips and arm move as one.

but as you can see hip rotation and weight transfer over the front leg in pitching mechanics and boxing mechanics are the same.

Spoiler

there is no hip to shoulder seperation in straight right hands, but there is hip to shoulder seperation in punches that whip, such as overhand rights and hooks.

 

[The axe murderer]

Agree. The bold part is very true, you can basically draw the lines in boxing media but there are exceptions luckily

btw I think we could do something but that would need bigger unity
If boxing fans would really unite and organize we could pressure the fukk out of all these promoters and networks but that needs time and high organization

Fans too busy being in their feelings over race BS, stansets etc. I mean MMA fanbase is trashy AF but they collectively seem more organized like when Kevin Randleman died some fans organized a gofund me to help her out and that grew to decent numbers, when the fighter's union was formed they were fully behind it or when vitor wanted funding for his training camp etc. I got more examples and it may seem like apples and oranges but I don't see this happening in any boxing section honestly. Can't string two thoughts together without some BS coming up.

 

[Axum Ezana]

Fans too busy being in their feelings over race BS, stansets etc. I mean MMA fanbase is trashy AF but they collectively seem more organized like when Kevin Randleman died some fans organized a gofund me to help her out and that grew to decent numbers, when the fighter's union was formed they were fully behind it or when vitor wanted funding for his training camp etc. I got more examples and it may seem like apples and oranges but I don't see this happening in any boxing section honestly. Can't string two thoughts together without some BS coming up.

did any boxer do a gofundme account yet?

if so im not aware breh.

 

[The axe murderer]

I was going to ask y'all all about this but since you've alluded to it, minus well piggy back on this....when it comes to punching power, are fighters "born" with that or is it something that can be added via technique and mechanics?

I ask because when I listened to RJJ commentate the JMM-Pac fight, he mentioned weightlifting helping him in his knockdown and knockout of Pac man when he was never able to KD him in their 3 previous fights. The KD and KO punches were punches he was landing in the first 3 fights but it didn't floor him.

yeah sort of. but pitchers use more hip to shoulder seperation to throw. hip to shoulder seperation is when your hips rotate in front of your arm and pull or yank your arm through into extension. hip to shoulder seperation is what causes your arm to turn into rubber and suddenly whip.

heres bob gibson throwing with good hip to shoulder seperation

and heres ferguson jenkins throwing with good hip to shoulder seperation

for comparison when a boxer throws a straight right hand there is no hip to shoulder seperation. the hips and arm move as one.

but as you can see hip rotation and weight transfer over the front leg in pitching mechanics and boxing mechanics are the same.

Spoiler

there is no hip to shoulder seperation in straight right hands, but there is hip to shoulder seperation in punches that whip, such as overhand rights and hooks.

Marciano used to play baseball you think there is any carry over?
And there was the fighter Corrie Sanders who used to be an avid golf player. And he had a damn good straight right that he caught klitschko rahman etc with

 

[The axe murderer]

has any boxer did a gofundme account yet?

if so im not aware breh.

Never seen it to be honest. I guess we just gotta charge it to the game

 

[The axe murderer]

Mundine: When I Beat Danny Green - Call Me Black Houdini!


If Anthony Mundine pulls this off, people will have to start calling him the black Houdini.

That's the belief of the former rugby league star, who takes on bitter rival Danny Green in a highly-anticipated boxing rematch on February 3.

The 43-year-old Mundine will likely be giving up as much as 13 kilograms in weight to Green by the time the pair step into the ring at Adelaide Oval.

"I never really thought it was going to happen to be honest. He went up in weight, to cruiser-weight," Mundine told reporters in Sydney on Friday. "He fought some big men, pretty much heavyweights. Antonio Tarver is now a heavyweight, the cruiser-weight champion.



"This is some David-Goliath stuff, what's going on right here. If I can pull this off, you all gotta call me the black Houdini or something because this is something that's not supposed to happen. This don't come around, not even in generations."

The fight is set at a catch-weight limit of 83kg [183-pounds], a far cry from the 76.2kg super middleweight limit the duo faced off in their previous meeting in 2006 which Mundine won.

Mundine was a underdog then and he was quick to seize the status again.

"The weight advantage is a massive deal. For people that don't know boxing, guys that give away half a kilo or a kilo get fined massive money. It's big just giving away one kilo," he said.

"I'm coming up four divisions. We ain't fighting at cruiser-weight, we're fighting at Danny weight, what Danny wanted to fight at. So I'm leaving him no excuse. All the pressure's on him.

"I should be 100-1 underdog, for real. Thirteen kilos, man, my last fight was 69.5 I come in at. We're fighting at 83. I won't even make 83. But I'll be a strong, fit, ready 79-80kg."




With both boxers believed to pocket $10 million each for the re-match, Mundine advised his nemesis to be thankful just for the opportunity to exact some revenge.

"To Danny, be humble man. Be gracious. I'm giving you another pay day," he said.

"Be gracious that I made your career. Without me, you'd be nobody. You'd still be fighting in RSLs. At the end of the fight, thank me for what I done for the sport and your career."

- See more at: Mundine: When I Beat Danny Green - Call Me Black Houdini! - Boxing News

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Its uncanny. I heard that Tommy Hearns didn't have much power before Manny trained him. Either he masterfully changes his punching mechanics and defied the whole notion of ''punchers are born'' either way he developed possibly the greatest right straight in welterweight history under Steward. Adonis Stevenson trained under Steward before his death and I kinda see shades of Hearns in him. I think Manny saw talent in Klitschko and harnessed that straight that Klitschko had and it was sniper-like.

Hearns dimensions automatically make him candidates for one of the hardest punchers ever, just based off geometry. Add in he could already box, and had Manny in his corner.

 

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