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We talking bout Bradley "9-3" Natural 147 fighters

JMM was weighing in at 143 N shyt :aicmon:


Marquez wasn't no damn Welterweight... N if we being reality Marquez was Not only not a 147 fighter...the muhfukker was 40 yrs old N looked at as :flabbynsick: until he landed the punch :deadmanny:....N guess what?? Tim still only got a SD against a blown up 40 yr old :bryan:



You wanna see how you handle old Mexican Legends??
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That's the whole point Choc, Tim would be too quick for Thurman. As explained JMM came off of the best Pac win and got dominated by Tim. Oh word that's what Danny does to faded Mexican legends? What about current legends? Best win? Is it Fetty Wop or Mexican beef Morales? Or glass chin Kahn?

Bradley got two losses, both to Pac--a legend and modern day GOAT, has Garcia literally even FACED someone as good? Let alone three times? And the Marquez fight was a SD the way Thurman/Garcia was. But let's use the common opponent barometer, what'd Tim do to PED, and how did Swift fare? One of them knocked him down, who was it?

I get that BATB ain't what he was a few years ago, however that's no need to dis his legacy. Who active had a resume better? Pac, Ward and? Anyway you said some funny shyt as always, but keep it a hundred when it comes to the actual boxing. That Morales tilt a whirl GIF is an impressive KO tho. Wait has Swift beat a WW on Rios's level yet? Or still just geriatric Paulie, and post Thurman Ghost?
 

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I did last summer. But that's because I was taking them orange teslas every couple of days. fukked my shyt up
Breh I took one of those and they fukked me up good. You're crazy taking multiples of those, they were tested with a 240-260mg MDMA spread. That's like once-twice a year shyt breh.....stop doing that to ur brain.
 

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Breh I took one of those and they fukked me up good. You're crazy taking multiples of those, they were tested with a 240-260mg MDMA spread. That's like once-twice a year shyt breh.....stop doing that to ur brain.

I thought I was going to prison and I found a dude who sold me 50 of them for the low. I was supposed to sell them but once I had my first half a pill :damn: i sold 20 Max. Let's just say my summer was lit :skip:

I stopped selling them cus someone would have died. the normal pills round my area are garbage all cut with speed and a tiny bit of MDMA in them. So people would take like 4-5 pills in a night.

I tried to tell this one guy these things are strong as fukk you can't binge on these things. I sold him 5 pills straight away he takes swallows 2 like they m and ms :snoop: he was a tiny guy too. Bruh he was so fukked up I had to babysit him all night he was gone.

I never took more than one a time because I'm in shape I barely have any body fat I have a low tolerance for everything. So half a pill would have me rolling. But i used them so frequently.

I lost my link for them but if I could find good quality pills like that again I'd definitely get some more. But I'd use them more therapeutically rather than just for partying and shyt. I shifted through so many emotional blocks I remember in a pub talking to a couple people for hours on end about my life and shyt.
 

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Pac aint scared of shyt.. Everyone saw him put Crawford name right there in the poll and Crawford came in 3rd place..

That's Crawford's fault. He has no true fanbase, so Pacquiao can always say the fight isn't worth it...which would be true.

The media isn't even behind Crawford vs Pacquiao (or Crawford vs Broner as I've said for months), so Crawford is going to need to switch something up if he wants to get the mega fights.

He's a Lineal, Unified, Pound 4 Pound, Undefeated Champion who's already had the main event on a PPV.....but his lack of fanbase is still holding him back
 

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That's Crawford's fault. He has no true fanbase, so Pacquiao can always say the fight isn't worth it...which would be true.

The media isn't even behind Crawford vs Pacquiao (or Crawford vs Broner as I've said for months), so Crawford is going to need to switch something up if he wants to get the mega fights.

He's a Lineal, Unified, Pound 4 Pound, Undefeated Champion who's already had the main event on a PPV.....but his lack of fanbase is still holding him back
Maybe. Wasn't another fighter chosen for Floyd and he went with another?
 

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Exactly, didnt make no damn sense . . . you were clinging onto the fact that he wasnt a WW:hhh:


Khan turned down the fight....facts.

Porter accepted the fight........facts.

Broner, unlike Brook, has been named P4P, has won more Championships, is more relevant, has jumped 2 divisions and won, and has a better resume............................................facts.



At the end of the day breh, you UK Brook fans should learn to stay on topic. Instead of hating on AB, who's shoes Brook would LOVE to be in, y'all need to be worried about Errol Spence who ain't coming to play games.


Don't make this another case of one of my fighters coming into someone else's backyard and leaving with their belts and their bytch:ahh:


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Maybe. Wasn't another fighter chosen for Floyd and he went with another?

I can't remember. I think Khan probably was chosen, but he picked Berto bc they had personal beef going on, and Floyd personally requested Berto.
 

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That's Crawford's fault. He has no true fanbase, so Pacquiao can always say the fight isn't worth it...which would be true.

The media isn't even behind Crawford vs Pacquiao (or Crawford vs Broner as I've said for months), so Crawford is going to need to switch something up if he wants to get the mega fights.

He's a Lineal, Unified, Pound 4 Pound, Undefeated Champion who's already had the main event on a PPV.....but his lack of fanbase is still holding him back
your right
but manny was in serious discussions with jeff hornaceck breh:gucci:
i dont recall seeing him in winning a poll
Pac was willing to go to another country to fight khan:hhh:
pacquaio crawford can be promoted pretty easily once it gets made
pacquaio needs to take his beats like a man:yeshrug:
 

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Manny Pacquiao-Keith Thurman: Should We Get the Ball Rolling? - Boxing News

Sports should be simple: win, progress, and ultimately end up with the other winners. There doesn’t need to be that much thought to it.

In boxing, a sport lacking the structure and internal logic we might find in a team sports concept, doesn’t always work that way. If it did, the next big fight in the welterweight would be obvious. If fans start asking for it, it couldn’t hurt.

Last Saturday, in a fight that did the sort of viewing numbers that accentuate the value of network television coverage, WBA titlist Keith Thurman kept his undefeated record and added the WBC belt to his trophy case. The win makes him one of the few unified titlists in boxing.

It doesn’t necessarily make him the best fighter in his division. There is more to be done in that regard and that’s fine. While he might not be the undisputable best in class yet, he has become its most seen winner.

With all due respect to Errol Spence, whose post-Olympic fight did somewhere in the neighborhood of six million viewers, it is Thurman’s numbers on television that have been the most organic and impressive. His fights against Robert Guerrero (NBC), Shawn Porter (CBS), and now Danny Garcia (CBS) have all peaked at higher than four million viewers in the last two years. The Garcia fight, at its most watched, had over five million households tuning in.

Now, no, Thurman-Garcia was not a great fight. It wasn’t a bad fight either. It was just one of most fights that happen and we move on and that’s fine.

The bonuses of the night came by way of the sport not stepping on itself. It was competitive, clean, and the right guy won. Angel Garcia mostly acted like a grown up while the cameras were on. Those are all net positives.

Boxing’s credibility issues may be its biggest plague in the US, but sports fans will tolerate underwhelming if it’s fair.

There have been plenty of Super Bowls, World Series, and NBA Finals that everyone forgot shortly after they finished. Those sports retain their credibility because the outcomes are viewed as fairly achieved.

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Thurman won, fair and square. Good enough.

His wins over Porter and Garcia also give him a pair of quality top ten wins at welterweight that establish him as one of the men to beat in class. He’s earned the right to find out if he can be the man.

The best way to do that would be a chance to beat the Manny.

This week, speculation about a clash between WBO titlist Manny Pacquiao and Amir Khan went up in smoke. That leaves the dance card of Pacquiao empty. The name Kevin Horn has resurfaced, carrying with it the same “who the hell is Kevin Horn?” questioning that went on when first he was mentioned.

That’s not the fight fans should be asking for.

And they’re not.

Boxing politics being what they are, there are still plenty who would love to see Pacquiao versus Terence Crawford. Adrien Broner was reportedly negotiated at one point and most would enjoy that as well.

None of that gets us towards answering the question of who the world’s best welterweight is right now. Three men have some claim to the honor: Thurman, Pacquiao, and to a lesser extent Kell Brook. Brook was seen as sort of a de facto number one last year but the situation has changed. Brook moved to middleweight, lost to Gennady Golovkin, and hasn’t had any notable wins over contenders at welterweight since defeating Porter in 2014. That could change for Brook when he faces Spence, his mandatory and the assumed rising light of the class, later this year.

If it does or doesn’t, it’s enough to say Brook’s dance card is full. Pacquiao’s is empty. Thurman’s just got cleared.

Shouldn’t this be where we want to go?

Thurman, the most organically viewed fighter in the US in the last two years, against a Pacquiao who is still the most recognizable active fighter in the world, should be a no brainer. It’s a three-belt unification at a time when Pacquiao, age 38, still appears to have plenty in the tank.

He might not be the whirling dervish he was in years past but he was still able to easily outpoint Timothy Bradley and Jessie Vargas last year. That gives both he and Thurman solid top ten wins in each of their last two fights.

Style wise, it’s also interesting. Thurman made his name with early knockouts but he’s proven to be more comfortable boxing in many recent fights. The exception was his battle with the aggressive Porter. Pacquiao, even subdued, is a fighter who forces fights and brings offense. How would Thurman handle his power? Could Pacquiao force him into exchanges? Does he have one last feather to add to his cap by way of an undefeated, unified titlist at welterweight?

It’s a simple question: who is the best welterweight in the world. The fight that might get us closest to the answer right now is Pacquiao-Thurman. Neither has a fight scheduled.

Is it too much to ask that they fill their dance cards with each other?

It shouldn’t be. Let’s get the ball rolling.
 

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your right
but manny was in serious discussions with jeff hornaceck breh:gucci:
i dont recall seeing him in winning a poll

Easy fight...Easy payday...Easy work.


That's the only reason Pacquiao would fight him. Crawford is a much harder fight for about the same money (we all know Horn would get molested at the negotiation table and end up with a 85/15 split in Pacquiao favor)


Pac was willing to go to another country to fight khan:hhh:

For $38 million though breh.


I'm sure Crawford would try to fight Khan in the UAE for $38 million if it was offered to him too:heh:



pacquaio crawford can be promoted pretty easily once it gets made
pacquaio needs to take his beats like a man:yeshrug:

Pacquiao team doesn't want their cash cow taking losses like that. Arum wants that fight so he can have Pacquiao give Crawford that "superstar" rub....but Crawford isn't doing anything himself to get the fight.

The only fighter who's constantly trying to fight Pacquiao is AB....Crawford, nor his fanbase, says nothing and refuses to move up to 147 for the fight either. He has to start beating the drum for a potential showdown if he truly wants Pac:manny:
 
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