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David_TheMan said:
Its true, they were supposed to fight each other in a mini tourny Bowe vs Holyfield and Lennox fought someone else and he won, Bowe won, they were supposed to fight each other and Bowe threw his belt away and fought bums.

Some say its fighting the bums that cause him to lose his want to be great in the sport.
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He there away the belt because the WBC was on their political bullshyt and Lewis was pricing himself out. I've spoken about this plenty of times.

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The answers above are bullshyt. The truth is that Bowe made more of an effort to make the fight happen than Lennox.3 different times.

1) People want to talk about Bowe dropping the belt, but that's because the crooked ass WBC (who didn't like Bowe and his management) was threatening to strip him and give it to Lewis. Lennox knew this and priced himself out of the fight knowing he would get the belt either way.

2) After Bowe got stripped he offered Lennox a unification fight (Bowe still had the IBF, WBA, & Ring Belts) to which Lewis declined and opted to fight Frank Bruno & Tommy Morrison instead

3) Bowe and Lennox had agreed to fight in 95 in a unification fight (Bowe had the WBO belt at the time), only for the fight to go up in smoke when Lennox got KO'ed by Oliver McCall. Even after that Bowe still offered the fight to Lennox, but Lennox decline because he wanted stay in the good graces of the WBC. So instead of fighting for another organization's belt, he decided to work his way up the WBC ladder again and regain their belt.

Bowe was never afraid of Lennox. The fight didn't happen because of politics. Stop believing all the bullshyt spewed out
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King P said:
He there away the belt because the WBC was on their political bullshyt and Lewis was pricing himself out. I've spoken about this plenty of times.
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Did Bowe, Lennox, Holyfield, and Ruddock sign a non-binding form saying the winner of the respective fights would fight each other? Yes or no?
Before Bowe even fought Holyfield did Rock Newman start trying to claim they might fight Foreman if they win, and ignore Lewis, who had already won his fight against Ruddock?
Doesn't that show you off the top Bowe's camp did not want anything to do with Lewis.

You say Lennox priced himself out, HBO offered both fighters 32 million to make the fight happen.
Rock Newman offered Lennox's camp 3 mil, a 90 - 10 split. Now you tell me how the fukk is that Lennox Lewis pricing himself out?
They then offered Lewis 2 mil to fight on the undercard of Bowe's first defense, which Lennox's camp refused seeing that they reneged on the agreement to fight the respective winners of Lewis/Ruddock and Bowe/Holyfield.

Rock Newman then offered the following deal 5 mil each, winner gets the remainder of the money, and loser gets training expenses paid.
He reworked that deal to a winner takes all pot for the 32 mil, Lennox and his camp accepted the offer and they said Newman then broke off all talks

Memory Lane: When Bowe Ducked Lewis - BoxingInsider.com

Documented breh. Bowe ducked outright
 
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David_TheMan said:
A guy I trust on the boxing forum checkhookboxing, before it became a racist cesspoll told me about it. He was at the fight, I believe it was the Hopkins fight or Pascal 1 fight
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I was at BOTH fights and don't recall this whatsoever...
 
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David_TheMan said:
Kovelev was with prostitutes in the areana while HBO knew it but on tv was talking about how he loved his wife who was back home.
Everyone around the game knows about Kovalev, HBO just chooses to protect him
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Booze/drugs and whores = no legs.

He's done fam. He will beat the B and under fighters but I don't see him beating Ward at all shyt got me rethinking the :cape: vs kkkov fight now too.
 
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cmvegeta said:
Who did you have winning that :cape: vs kkkov fight
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I've always thought kkkov:pacspit: was the better fighter and picked him but I don't think he will ever be the same after that Ward L nikkas aren't falling for that tough guy act anymore and now he has doubts in his own head add in all that extra fukkery around him I would pick Stevenson if they fought tomm.
 
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krackdagawd said:
I've always thought kkkov:pacspit: was the better fighter and picked him but I don't think he will ever be the same after that Ward L nikkas aren't falling for that tough guy act anymore and now he has doubts in his own head add in all that extra fukkery around him I would pick Stevenson if they fought tomm.
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shyt will be interesting to see how he deals with Stevenson's 4 1/2 reach advantage
 
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krackdagawd said:
I've always thought kkkov:pacspit: was the better fighter and picked him but I don't think he will ever be the same after that Ward L nikkas aren't falling for that tough guy act anymore and now he has doubts in his own head add in all that extra fukkery around him I would pick Stevenson if they fought tomm.
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Doubtful son. Ward isn't a hard puncher at all so even if Kovalev loses, he wouldn't have sustained much physical damage. As for mental/psychological damage, he just lost his first fight so if there are any issues with dealing with that first L, it won't be nearly as bad the second time around.

But Kovalev TKOs 40 year old Adonis. Stevenson's opposition has been too poor since the Cloud fight. Can't see him beating the Ward-Kovalev winner regardless of who it is
 
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