Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

[Axum Ezana]

He not on there radar right now basically. No one worried about him

okay. so they don't want the fight. its always the hes not a big draw excuse with craw.

he could be complete undisputed champ at 140 but he not on there radar.

 

[Newzz]

@Newzz I think I been misunderstanding u.

u think the indongo fight is only gonna be for the wba/ibo.....naw bro. an insider said the indongo fight will be for total unification for the all the belts.

that's why im saying craw will be open for a 3rd fight later this year. for pac/ Garcia/broner.

u think craw still will have to beat lipinets for ibf. which I don't think. I think ibf gonna let them fight for all the belts the next fight.

I don't think Crawford ducks anyone, he just doesn't call them out...which is fine. He's the Champ, he fights who he wants.


If he gets all 4 belts on the line vs Indongo, he's going to destroy him, and then yes....I can see him moving to face Pacquiao next.


Broner/Garcia isn't a match for him to go after because he has the Pac fight that I think Crawford wins & receives a much larger payday and many more eyes on him....which is what he needs.


If Indongo doesn't have the belt, I see Crawford searching for that 4th belt, & because Broner/Garcia wont have anything, they will be useless bc Crawford's map is already laid.

 

[Newzz]

okay. so they don't want the fight. its always the hes not a big draw excuse with craw.

he could be complete undisputed champ at 140 but he not on there radar.

He's not...he has to get his name up breh.


Again, ask @Mr. Leonidas, we SEEN Crawford at the Ward fight in the concession line, Leonidas pointed him out to me, and dude was by his lonely....no one was running up to him to get his autograph, a pic, or anything outside a couple people. He was just solo standing in line patiently

He HAS to get his name up bc no matter how many belts he has, he's still not that famous.

 

[patscorpio]

well judging from this entertaining back and forth, the t-craw-broner or t-craw-mikey fight thread (if made) will be lit

 

[Axum Ezana]

He's not...he has to get his name up breh.


Again, ask @Mr. Leonidas, we SEEN Crawford at the Ward fight in the concession line, Leonidas pointed him out to me, and dude was by his lonely....no one was running up to him to get his autograph, a pic, or anything outside a couple people. He was just solo standing in line patiently

He HAS to get his name up bc no matter how many belts he has, he's still not that famous.

but that's the thing breh.

one min u say the champ dictates the fight(saying craw has to call them out which he has)...then the next min u will say the bigger draw dictates the fight(so craw callin calling them out wont matter if they can say "hes not a big draw".....that's what I had a problem with.

plus Garcia is currently is not a bigger draw than craw when it comes to tickets or tv ratings.

 

[patscorpio]

Serious question: (thinking about the Mayweather-McGregor fight)

When we see all these reports of PPV buys for fights, do they count all these sports bars that order the fight as 1 buy or multiple buys since they charge these bars more then the normal PPV rate? Has anyone ever seen an article on this?
(For those who dont know, bars get charged based on how many people their spot can hold, usually in the thousands of dollars)

thats prolly a reason why most bars dont air boxing fights

 

[patscorpio]

signed for when?

if thats signed for GGG-Canelo that would be a good look..that is a suitable co main event

 

[mson]

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

if thats signed for GGG-Canelo that would be a good look..that is a suitable co main event

a very dope double header for sure!!

 

[Newzz]

but that's the thing breh.

one min u say the champ dictates the fight(saying craw has to call them out which he has)...then the next min u will say the bigger draw dictates the fight(so craw callin calling them out wont matter if they can say "hes not a big draw".....that's what I had a problem with.

plus Garcia is currently is not a bigger draw than craw when it comes to tickets or tv ratings.

You're not understanding what Im saying, so I will say it again and hopefully, it's clearer breh.

1. A challenger cannot force a Champion to defend his belt, however a challenger can turn down a Championship opportunity if offered. A Champion can pick and choose whoever he wants to fight next going down a list.
2. Broner can call out Crawford all he wants, Crawford only HAS to defend the belt vs whoever he wants, and he has been.
3. Crawford in this case, has never called out Broner to fight, however, Broner can only accept the challenge being that he's a challenger. Crawford can offer an Championship fight, but has yet to do so. Broner can say I want to fight Crawford next, but that leads to point #4
4. Broner is telling him to get his name up, because until then, it's not a big enough fight for the monetary demand that Broner would expect for the fight. Crawford is basically a "big name" in the internet Boxing world bc not many people knew him at the SOG fight.

Mikey Garcia will be bigger than Crawford if he beats Broner.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

That's why I always say collecting belts ain't always the be all end all

Who you beat for them belts matters a lot more then jus having a belt

10 years from now youngins goin be posting in The Ring go on boxrec N see Idongo, Diaz, Molina, Lundy, Dulorme, Postol, Jean

Then ask why tf didn't Crawford fight AB or Mikey


Muhfukkers do it to Floyds resume now at the lighter weights...imagine the hate for that bud resume

 

[L68]

signed for when?

dont think its signed.. i guess theyre trying to make it

 

[aceboon]

It would be stupid to put this on the same night as the Superfly card, but I'm not really too interested in this rematch anyway.

 

[ComorianKid]

From what I read they was close. They first initially met when Ali was a youngin and he came to see Floyd Patterson train before an exhibition fight. He said that nobody had the competitive spirit of Ali. "Ali was the greatest because he loved himself". He thought Ali was the quintessential fighter because not just because his skills but because his whole psychological perspective. He thought you had to kill Ali to beat him.

Ali really thought he was the best and that's the kind of stuff that Cus drilled in Tyson head(thinking that you best and having out of this world confidence)

Tyson says in the book that " Ali made overtures to manage him but that Cus was too busy with Patterson. Ali loved Cus but he didn't want Dundees feelings. Dundee was his trainer in theory even tho Ali trained hisself and had Dundee in salary(Cus dnt work on salary) . Cus was jealous of the notoriety that Dundee got because he thought Dundee was a glorified cheerleader. Cus was bitter about that. "

Even tho they never worked together Tyson says Cus and Ali still was close and they strategized about how to win in the ring and in life. Before he fought Foreman he called up Cus and asked how do he fight him. Cus told him that Foreman had no respect for Ali power and that Ali need to go out in the first round and hurt him with a right hand(which Ali did).

Cus never liked Larry Holmes (Tyson didn't know why tho) and when Ali lost to Holmes , Ali called Cus up and thats when a 15 year old Tyson promised to beat Holmes for Ali.


All in all it was some good shyt in that book.

Appreciate that breh.

 

[Axum Ezana]

You're not understanding what Im saying, so I will say it again and hopefully, it's clearer breh.

1. A challenger cannot force a Champion to defend his belt, however a challenger can turn down a Championship opportunity if offered. A Champion can pick and choose whoever he wants to fight next going down a list.
2. Broner can call out Crawford all he wants, Crawford only HAS to defend the belt vs whoever he wants, and he has been.
3. Crawford in this case, has never called out Broner to fight, however, Broner can only accept the challenge being that he's a challenger. Crawford can offer an Championship fight, but has yet to do so. Broner can say I want to fight Crawford next, but that leads to point #4

Broner is telling him to get his name up, because until then, it's not a big enough fight for the monetary demand that Broner would expect for the fight. Crawford is basically a "big name" in the internet Boxing world bc not many people knew him at the SOG fight.


Mikey Garcia will be bigger than Crawford if he beats Broner.

but why would he demand so much money for a low draw(in his opinion) like craw. shouldn't he be happy get paid just like the other title fight like khabib.(1 mil)

plus craw only get 1 mill( or a lil above) for his title fights

shyt I figure about 1 - 1.2 mill for both fighters would be good to fight purse for both on free tv. no ?

the problem is they wanna have a big ppv fight craw/broner/Garcia when none are proven sellers on ppv.