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remember punisher was a natural welter...he had to go up to 154 to get fights not because he couldnt make the weight

this is true. the funny thing is, Paul Williams fought more fights OVER the 154 lb limit than he ever did at welter. He fought most of his fights at super-welter or middleweight. his first titles came at welter. he said at the time when he was fighting a lot at 154 that he could fight in any of those 3 divisions, wherever the biggest fight was. he always maintained that he would make 147 though.
 

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this is true. the funny thing is, Paul Williams fought more fights OVER the 154 lb limit than he ever did at welter. He fought most of his fights at super-welter or middleweight. his first titles came at welter. he said at the time when he was fighting a lot at 154 that he could fight in any of those 3 divisions, wherever the biggest fight was. he always maintained that he would make 147 though.

Nobody at 147 wanted to fight him he had to move up to get fights
 

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so you would suggest Ward move up to fight Dawson when he is perfectly comfortable at 168? If he would lose you would say it was fukkery involved in that because you would say Dawson shouldnt have allowed Ward to come to 175 and face him straight away. YOU ARE DEFINITELY TRYING TO HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. The only way there is no bullshyt involved is if they meet at a catchweight of 171.5 but guess what, there would be no title on the line so the fight wouldnt be worth as much. I am all for evenly matched fights but yall just be discrediting guys for the wrong reasons.

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Now you predicting what nikkas would say now? C'mon breh you trying too hard now. Yeah Ward may be comfortable at 168, but if no more big fights are there and he was planning on moving up regardless I don't see the problem. I don't see that as having it both ways, but somehow you do. :manny:

I'm not discrediting Ward for fighting Dawson at 168 so Let me break it down a little easier for you since I done explained this already.

Beating Dawson at 175 >> Beating Dawson when he's drained at 168.

That's all I'm fukking saying. Maybe you were impressed by that shyt, but don't expect everyone else to be. I get the feeling that you want me to be in awe of that shyt and since I won't, you just keep going at it. :snoop:

I'm done talking about this shyt. If you feel Ward is GOD because he has a gold medal, beat a bunch of B level dudes who already gotten thrashed before, and beating the light heavyweight champ at supermiddle all in the comfort of his homwtown that he can't even sell out, then that's you. You have a right to that opinion. Just like I got a right to my own opinion on that nikka.

Ward is a great fighter, but a little overrated to me and that's bascially where I stand as of now with dude. Agree or disagree I don't give a fukk breh :pachaha:
 

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he has a gold medal, beat a bunch of B level dudes who already gotten thrashed before, and beating the light heavyweight champ at supermiddle all in the comfort of his homwtown that he can't even sell out, then that's you. You have a right to that opinion. Just like I got a right to my own opinion on that nikka.

Ward is a great fighter, but a little overrated to me and that's bascially where I stand as of now with dude. Agree or disagree I don't give a fukk breh :pachaha:

this.... contradictory ass nigguh

delusional as fukk too. B-Level fighters? thrashed before? Kessler lost 1 fight previously, to Calzaghe...the best super middle in the world. Froch lost 1 fight previously...to Kessler. Dawson lost a fluke to Pascal, he wasnt thrashed. Abraham lost to Dirrell and Froch. Yeah, dont talk about it anymore, u sound crazy saying those guys are B-level. So Hopkins is B-level right? He lost to Dawson, Calzaghe, and Taylor twice...who Froch KTFO. Dude....stop it. :mindblown:

Its not that Ward is beating guys but he is dominating everyone he fights. If you dont like him, fine....I dont give a fukk either, but dont be in here hating and pretending to know what you are talking about at the same time...the two dont mix.
 

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if Ward and Broner are overrated, Pac lost his last damn 3 fights, Martinez relatively inactive and struggled in a fight with a pot-head.....then I would like to hear your top 10 p4p list. please entertain us.
 

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So much goin on in this thread right now wher to begin....

Mares is underrated af people claim GBP protects its fighters yet Mares stays taking on challenges

Ward is overrated...should have never drained Dawson even Virgil Hunter commented on how Dawson was drained :smugfavre:

The super 6 tourny filled wit a bunch of Euros N somehow 168 was this beast division fukk outta here....nikkas jus lookin for someone thats not Floyd to be put on P4P....nikkas did the same shyt wit :deadmanny:

As far as Floyd ducking Margarito for Baldomir revisionist history is a motherfukker....nikkas like Brian Kelley was sayin Floyd wouldnt fight a "real" WW he ducking the lineal champ in baldo

Then Arums bytch ass dont wanna give Floyd the Oscar match or pay dude for Hatton N Cotto

Only a hater would say Floyd made the wrong decision Baldo, DLH, Hatton > Margarito, then Hatton N Cotto for crumbs :birdman:
 

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honestly, I wont be watching Mayweather vs Guerrero live. its not an interesting fight to me. I didnt watch Mayweather-Cotto live. Last year I took a major break from watching fights. I had gotten so disenchanted with the lack of quality fights and good matches being made. I tuned in to a couple of fights here and there but honestly, its not much going on, just a lot of politics and a few decent fights squeezed in between here and there.
 

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this.... contradictory ass nigguh

delusional as fukk too. B-Level fighters? thrashed before? Kessler lost 1 fight previously, to Calzaghe...the best super middle in the world. Froch lost 1 fight previously...to Kessler. Dawson lost a fluke to Pascal, he wasnt thrashed. Abraham lost to Dirrell and Froch. Yeah, dont talk about it anymore, u sound crazy saying those guys are B-level. So Hopkins is B-level right? He lost to Dawson, Calzaghe, and Taylor twice...who Froch KTFO. Dude....stop it. :mindblown:

Its not that Ward is beating guys but he is dominating everyone he fights. If you dont like him, fine....I dont give a fukk either, but dont be in here hating and pretending to know what you are talking about at the same time...the two dont mix.


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Whatever breh.
 

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bull fukkin shyt. Hopkins cannot beat Dawson. Thats all there is to it. There is a reason why Hopkins ducked him for 2 years then jumped on the dudes back and faked a fukkin injury. dude, you one dikkridin hatin ass sumbytch. Bernard conned the network and public out of millions. Did the same shyt against Robert Allen and Antwun Echols. I respect Hopkins gansta. He is a man in the ring, an con artist and a genius. He knows who to pick his fights with though...which is part of his brilliance. the thing I dont like about Bernard is, he championed the cause for fighters being exploited by the system and the public being cheated out of good fights, then once he got his money he started doing the same thing. charge it to the game though.

BHOP won 4-5 rounds with a bad shoulder and you think he cant beat him if healthy:comeon:

How come BHOP looked 10x better Saturday
 

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if Ward and Broner are overrated, Pac lost his last damn 3 fights, Martinez relatively inactive and struggled in a fight with a pot-head.....then I would like to hear your top 10 p4p list. please entertain us.

Ward and Broner are far from overrated... but what is this Pac lost 3 times bull?? He won Pac/JMM 3.... Won vs Bradley (according to the WBO) and lost vs Roided up JMM the 4th time... Can you count my nikka
 

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Ward and Broner are far from overrated... but what is this Pac lost 3 times bull?? He won Pac/JMM 3.... Won vs Bradley (according to the WBO) and lost vs Roided up JMM the 4th time... Can you count my nikka

disputed. he "arguably" hasnt won a fight since dominating Mosley. thats all I am saying. many feel he lost 3rd fight against JMM, he didnt get his hand raised against Bradley and he did get KTFO in 4th fight with JMM. has it been proven that JMM was juiced up yet?
 
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