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[SuikodenII]

Pac has speed and accuracy, not "INSANE POWAH" you idiots claim he has

-Margarito's eye was fukked up, I get it, but he never had Margarito in serious trouble to be KO'd. Malignaggi just got a TKO victory the same way.

-Mosley was knocked out of his 2nd (arguably 3rd) prime by $TEAMMayweather with a vicious 12 round beating and sadly Mora, then Pac wants to fight him after Roach previously refused at 147. Legit Knockdown, but Mosley was GONE as a fighter, round 2 of his Mayweather fight was the last time he looked remotely competitive against anyone.

-Cotto at 145 after Cotto stated he was struggling to make 147 and was moving up after Clottey? $$$ called and he took it like a dummy, but he's not the most punch resistant mofo in the world. Dude used to get ROCKED by 140lbers

-Never came close to stopping Clottey

-Never came close to stopping Marquez

-Hatton, another DONE fighter after $$$TEAMMayweather, also had no punch resistance left in him, KO'd by May, Saved against Lazcano, Saved against Collazo

-Even Oscar said Manny's power was overrated and he took 346553 punches to the face


All I'm saying is Manny's power is overrated due to who and WHEN he fights these opponents, in case you don't follow boxing, YES, your resistance to being punched in the head repeatedly does wear down over time due to previous KO's, wars, weight changes, not being that punch resistant to begin with.

I'd say he probably hits a little harder than Mayweather, both guys CAN KO guys at 147, but they're not BIG PUNCHERS


You little dumb muthafukkas...

*walks out like Ving Rhames*

*hears shyt talking*





"....What?......"


*continues walking*

 

[Black_Jesus]

Ortiz was the young hungry champ and southpaw tuneup to get ready for Pac

Lemme get this straight Shane beats Margarito the fukk up...then fights Money = Shane past his prime

Pac fights Margarito the dude who jus got demolished = a huge risk

Shane had to wait almost two years for that fight. Dude was 38 by the time Floyd fought him...

Shane beat a welterweight Margs after just getting caught with plaster on his hands.. Margs was mentally shot.before he even stepped in the ring..

Pac beat Margs at a damn near 20 pound weight difference.. what's so hard to understand about that

 

[SuikodenII]

Shane had to wait almost two years for that fight. Dude was 38 by the time Floyd fought him...

Shane beat a welterweight Margs after just getting caught with plaster on his hands.. Margs was mentally shot.before he even stepped in the ring..

Pac beat Margs at a damn near 20 pound weight difference.. what's so hard to understand about that

He had a chance to face Mayweather at 135...but $$$ called at 147 (ODLH)

That has nothing to do with discrediting Mosley as it does Margarito being a dumb muthafukka. The whole "mental" argument is grasping at straws and is a shythead excuse any dumb muthafukka could use. Fact is, Margarito fought someone who was stronger than him and got beat the fukk down cause he can't box and he has no defense. Just chin and work rate.

Pac won, no doubt, but that was a post Mosley Margarito, not post Cotto. Either way, he gave Margarito the career threatening eye beating he deserved.

 

[DalMem]

That's the ticket: Confident of a win, Timothy Bradley Jr. is already plotting a Manny Pacquiao rematch.

Bradley might KO him.

 

[SuikodenII]

That's the ticket: Confident of a win, Timothy Bradley Jr. is already plotting a Manny Pacquiao rematch.

Bradley might KO him.

He a fool for that one...but I hope he's not underestimating Pac. He's still a better boxer than anyone he's faced thus far, by far.

 

[DalMem]

Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Timothy Bradley Jr.

May 5, 2013

Michael Buffer - "Somebody's "O" has got to go"

 

[23Barrettcity]

Black Jesus you're a joke . Why did PAC fight mosley , dlh, hatton Marquez AFTER Floyd if they were all washed up at that point ?( barely beat marquez nut sure you will bring up styles making fights )Didn't Mosley beat margarito before he fought Floyd ? Why did manny try fighting cotto again ? I won't even mention weight draining :/
Your just a manny dikk rider .

 

[Grams]

Pac has speed and accuracy, not "INSANE POWAH" you idiots claim he has

-Margarito's eye was fukked up, I get it, but he never had Margarito in serious trouble to be KO'd. Malignaggi just got a TKO victory the same way.

-Mosley was knocked out of his 2nd (arguably 3rd) prime by $TEAMMayweather with a vicious 12 round beating and sadly Mora, then Pac wants to fight him after Roach previously refused at 147. Legit Knockdown, but Mosley was GONE as a fighter, round 2 of his Mayweather fight was the last time he looked remotely competitive against anyone.

-Cotto at 145 after Cotto stated he was struggling to make 147 and was moving up after Clottey? $$$ called and he took it like a dummy, but he's not the most punch resistant mofo in the world. Dude used to get ROCKED by 140lbers

-Never came close to stopping Clottey

-Never came close to stopping Marquez

-Hatton, another DONE fighter after $$$TEAMMayweather, also had no punch resistance left in him, KO'd by May, Saved against Lazcano, Saved against Collazo

-Even Oscar said Manny's power was overrated and he took 346553 punches to the face


All I'm saying is Manny's power is overrated due to who and WHEN he fights these opponents, in case you don't follow boxing, YES, your resistance to being punched in the head repeatedly does wear down over time due to previous KO's, wars, weight changes, not being that punch resistant to begin with.

I'd say he probably hits a little harder than Mayweather, both guys CAN KO guys at 147, but they're not BIG PUNCHERS


You little dumb muthafukkas...

*walks out like Ving Rhames*

*hears shyt talking*





"....What?......"


*continues walking*

 

[patscorpio]

-Margarito's eye was fukked up, I get it, but he never had Margarito in serious trouble to be KO'd. Malignaggi just got a TKO victory the same way.

*continues walking*

so i just imagined margarito swaying and out on his feet in the 10th round after absorbing a counter right hook...and manny took his foot on the gas in the last 2 rounds when the ref or margo's corner didnt want protect margo anymore..margarito didn't plod forward all 12 rounds absorbing those punches without noticeably showing those punches were hurting him breh

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Shane had to wait almost two years for that fight. Dude was 38 by the time Floyd fought him...

Shane beat a welterweight Margs after just getting caught with plaster on his hands.. Margs was mentally shot.before he even stepped in the ring..

Pac beat Margs at a damn near 20 pound weight difference.. what's so hard to understand about that

N the Margarito Pac fought wasnt mentally shot?? Dude was never the same after getting caught with the plaster N ima fan of his.

The weight dont mean shyt...it happens all the fukkin time...didnt Ortiz blow up on fight night against Money?? Nobody says shyt about that tho

 

[Bomberman]

Pac has speed and accuracy, not "INSANE POWAH" you idiots claim he has

-Margarito's eye was fukked up, I get it, but he never had Margarito in serious trouble to be KO'd. Malignaggi just got a TKO victory the same way.

-Mosley was knocked out of his 2nd (arguably 3rd) prime by $TEAMMayweather with a vicious 12 round beating and sadly Mora, then Pac wants to fight him after Roach previously refused at 147. Legit Knockdown, but Mosley was GONE as a fighter, round 2 of his Mayweather fight was the last time he looked remotely competitive against anyone.

-Cotto at 145 after Cotto stated he was struggling to make 147 and was moving up after Clottey? $$$ called and he took it like a dummy, but he's not the most punch resistant mofo in the world. Dude used to get ROCKED by 140lbers

-Never came close to stopping Clottey

-Never came close to stopping Marquez

-Hatton, another DONE fighter after $$$TEAMMayweather, also had no punch resistance left in him, KO'd by May, Saved against Lazcano, Saved against Collazo

-Even Oscar said Manny's power was overrated and he took 346553 punches to the face


All I'm saying is Manny's power is overrated due to who and WHEN he fights these opponents, in case you don't follow boxing, YES, your resistance to being punched in the head repeatedly does wear down over time due to previous KO's, wars, weight changes, not being that punch resistant to begin with.

I'd say he probably hits a little harder than Mayweather, both guys CAN KO guys at 147, but they're not BIG PUNCHERS


You little dumb muthafukkas...

*walks out like Ving Rhames*

*hears shyt talking*





"....What?......"


*continues walking*

I know what you're saying but vs Margarito he was practically fighting a light heavyweight, so his punches wouldn't have quite the same effect even though they did have some pop.

Oscar always downplays his opponents after he loses to them. But you're right, he never caught him with one big punch.

That punch vs Hatton would've floored anybody in the 140lb. range maybe to even 154 lbs. It was just a brutal shot from even the way it sounded. Same with 2nd knockdown vs Cotto, just from watching it on replay and seeing Cotto's head bobble. After that it was apparent Cotto started fighting scared and was practically out of it, he was a different fighter before that happened.

His fist and wrist size are comparable to heavyweights:
Boxing Science: How Manny Pacquiao's Body Has Tricked Analysts and Opponents - Bad Left Hook

Look at the comparison between his fist/wrist and Javale McGee's (pause):
Me and manny!!! Lovin Manila !!! on Twitpic

Even some of the knockdowns he gets don't seem like flush hard shots, but it's like Emmanuel Steward said once, it because his hands are heavy and even a glancing shot can be enough.

 

[23Barrettcity]

And why wasn't Ariza allowed on stage at the weigh in ? I thought they settled the beef with him and roach ?

 

[SuikodenII]

James "LIGHTS OUT" Toney has little hands......that's a stupid superstitious argument built off no scientific authority nor credible study.

Emmanuel Steward's a good trainer, but a border line Uncle on HBO. Credibility is high as he's a definite HOFer but he tends to say things that are agreeable with the people in charge. With that said, heavy handed may be the correct term for it, but I still attribute most of it on his SPEED and ACCURACY.

Margarito was big against Mosley too...yet still...

After awhile Margarito couldn't see the punches, and I don't care who you are...body shots and the shots YOU DON'T SEE will always hurt you. That's Boxing 101.

 

[Black_Jesus]

Pac has speed and accuracy, not "INSANE POWAH" you idiots claim he has

-Margarito's eye was fukked up, I get it, but he never had Margarito in serious trouble to be KO'd. Malignaggi just got a TKO victory the same way.

-Mosley was knocked out of his 2nd (arguably 3rd) prime by $TEAMMayweather with a vicious 12 round beating and sadly Mora, then Pac wants to fight him after Roach previously refused at 147. Legit Knockdown, but Mosley was GONE as a fighter, round 2 of his Mayweather fight was the last time he looked remotely competitive against anyone.

-Cotto at 145 after Cotto stated he was struggling to make 147 and was moving up after Clottey? $$$ called and he took it like a dummy, but he's not the most punch resistant mofo in the world. Dude used to get ROCKED by 140lbers

-Never came close to stopping Clottey

-Never came close to stopping Marquez

-Hatton, another DONE fighter after $$$TEAMMayweather, also had no punch resistance left in him, KO'd by May, Saved against Lazcano, Saved against Collazo

-Even Oscar said Manny's power was overrated and he took 346553 punches to the face


All I'm saying is Manny's power is overrated due to who and WHEN he fights these opponents, in case you don't follow boxing, YES, your resistance to being punched in the head repeatedly does wear down over time due to previous KO's, wars, weight changes, not being that punch resistant to begin with.

I'd say he probably hits a little harder than Mayweather, both guys CAN KO guys at 147, but they're not BIG PUNCHERS
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Ha ha ha this guy
I mean you have to be joking right?? it’s so common for people to literally get a piece of their face broke off by a guy half their size. for 12 rounds margarito took the beating of a lifetime, so did mosley, so did cotto, so did oscar, so did hatton, so did morales, so did diaz, and on and on. Look at these guys faces after their fights homie they tell a whole different story

Yea Oscar did claim Pac doesn't hit hard then during the steroid allegation before he got sued, he says "yea, Pacquiao hits hard because of steroids".. so which is it??

Shane said Pac's power was something he never felt..

Nazim Richardson said as he was checking Pac's wraps, he was shocked at the size of Manny's fists and how hard they were.. and how he knew right then Shane would be in for a very tough fight..

And sure its a combination of speed too but 54 Wins 38 KO's tell a different.story

 

[Black_Jesus]

N the Margarito Pac fought wasnt mentally shot?? Dude was never the same after getting caught with the plaster N ima fan of his.

The weight dont mean shyt...it happens all the fukkin time...didnt Ortiz blow up on fight night against Money?? Nobody says shyt about that tho

I was referring to Margerito being mentally shot in his fight vs Shane after he got caught by Maxim Richardson