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I guess this old post by bivols wife was true
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Seems like bivols body has been breaking apart for a while.
Whooped Canelo and Artur twice on limited power:wow:
 

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What's Eddie incentive to move Boots like this?
IIRC Boots has a purse minimum, it's possible Matchroom is losing money with these matches no one wants. If Boots was some big PPV star maybe it would make sense to keep paying him $3-5mil to fight these level opponents, but that's not the case
Isn't it in Eddie's best interest for Boots to take one of these Turki fights if it means a 8 figure payday. Starting to think this is Boots inner circle fault, they get paid regardless
 

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What's Eddie incentive to move Boots like this?
IIRC Boots has a purse minimum, it's possible Matchroom is losing money with these matches no one wants. If Boots was some big PPV star maybe it would make sense to keep paying him $3-5mil to fight these level opponents, but that's not the case
Isn't it in Eddie's best interest for Boots to take one of these Turki fights if it means a 8 figure payday. Starting to think this is Boots inner circle fault, they get paid regardless

they gotta do these fights in Philly due to the low overhead + numbers they can do there. The Lima dude signed on for 250, and undercard will be a bunch nobodies as I think all the decent names have fought or are on upcoming Ring Cards. Pretty much Matchroom can't afford any unifications or fights that are 60/40 or higher unless Turki subsidizes it.

Virgil at least is taking the street fighter route where its like ok Turki keep giving me a pool of people to pull from and I will take them on.

In retrospect I really feel if Boots wasn't on that tune up shyt he could have gotten the Co-Main spot on Bud vs Canelo and that could have been his coming out party
 

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If the boots-ortiz fight in January is legit then I don't really care who he fights next. His first fight at 154 should be a tuneup.

And make no mistake....when that Virgil fight happens, boots knockin that ass out :ufdup:
 

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they gotta do these fights in Philly due to the low overhead + numbers they can do there.
Forgot this is going be in philly. I was at the first fight and it was lit, but heard the second fight at wells fargo was less successful. this fight will probably be a dip from that. Even people in philly are getting sick of his opponents
 

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Forgot this is going be in philly. I was at the first fight and it was lit, but heard the second fight at wells fargo was less successful. this fight will probably be a dip from that. Even people in philly are getting sick of his opponents

Yeah folks getting tired because of how much they boosted up Boots with the Next RJJ talk and how literally any name mentioned for the last 3-4 yr Boots Cult was like he beats them in 5 or some wacky shyt lol. It's a reason they afraid to take Boots to Vegas shyt they could at least do an ATL fight or Houston to keep propping Boots as The Black American Champ. You got a ton of Black Predom Cities with decent sized Arenas that you can have boots circulate between Vegas and Ring cards.

2026 will be a make or break for boots imo
 

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If the boots-ortiz fight in January is legit then I don't really care who he fights next. His first fight at 154 should be a tuneup.

And make no mistake....when that Virgil fight happens, boots knockin that ass out :ufdup:

Maybe that Teo vs Shakur shyt real and Boots vs Virgil will be on it lol but Turki said fukk Teo and neither GBP or Matchroom will pay for it Id assume
 

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Helluva fight wow!!! Fundora's tough but he's not eating clean Thurman shots for 12 rounds lol. I can also see Thurman struggling because of the eight difference

Thurman hadn't knocked anyone out since 2013 up until his fight against Jarvis.:francis:
 

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Helluva fight wow!!! Fundora's tough but he's not eating clean Thurman shots for 12 rounds lol. I can also see Thurman struggling because of the eight difference
You honestly think Thurman has more power and pop.than the guys Fundora has already fought? Thurman isn't knocking him out. I'm taking Fundora by TKO. Thurman will do well but when Fundora starts to pour it on he will go into survival mode and the accumulation will be too much.
 

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You honestly think Thurman has more power and pop.than the guys Fundora has already fought? Thurman isn't knocking him out. I'm taking Fundora by TKO. Thurman will do well but when Fundora starts to pour it on he will go into survival mode and the accumulation will be too much.

Thurman definitely has the pop, the extra weight and whatever time off/surgery he had has seemed to return a lot of the power he lost. Jarvis, his last fight, was a can BUT Thurman still knocked him out AT a higher weight. Fundora is Taylor made for Thurman, counter ability, combination punching with power, AND accuracy are all recipes for disaster for Fundora, the only thing he has going for him against Keith is height and reach. Evey other box Keith has checked over him IMO. I can see Keith easily timing Fundora after a minor download, dude with those long arms has a longer delivery time on his punches and he doesn't always send them straight. Keith will Crack him before they get a chance to land on him.
 

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Boots isn't in favor with Turki, I'd argue Turki is the one who is injecting relevancy in Bam, Shakur, and Ford. I can see Turki viewing Boots in a Tim Kazoo lens or entering that terrority where he is like this nikka aint serious. I`m giving Boots 1 more pass with this October fight if this nikka aint fighting for that WBA belt or Virgil then he is Boo Boo Status officially. This October fight for the IBO too so nikka finna be capping saying he 2 division world champ and gonna be 2 division unified lol.

154 is the one decision where Losses dont mean shyt cause every fight with top 10 people = Fire. I will give Lima some leeway as he may just not be a name and it wouldn't be the first time someone not known in the USA ends up being solid, but Norman Sr is saying Lima is another Taylor made boots opponent.

If the boots-ortiz fight in January is legit then I don't really care who he fights next. His first fight at 154 should be a tuneup.

And make no mistake....when that Virgil fight happens, boots knockin that ass out :ufdup:

It would be hilarious if Boot's team was the one that "leaked" the news of a fight with Vergil Ortiz in January/February just so fans can get off their back and be ok with this fight with Lima :dead: . Some people are saying Vergil Ortiz's camp never confirmed a fight with Boots at all
 
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