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154 is becoming a duck fest
Luckily for Ortiz the division is so deep that Lubin could be the 4th option after 3 ducks and still be a formidable opponent that can sustain his momentum with a win
Just have to hope Boots is not bullshytting and willing to take the Turki payday against Ortiz in 2026
 

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154 is becoming a duck fest
Luckily for Ortiz the division is so deep that Lubin could be the 4th option after 3 ducks and still be a formidable opponent that can sustain his momentum with a win
Just have to hope Boots is not bullshytting and willing to take the Turki payday against Ortiz in 2026
I could be wrong, but neither he or his team don't move like they're confident in him or if he wants to fight the divisions best
 

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I could be wrong, but neither he or his team don't move like they're confident in him or if he wants to fight the divisions best
I think him not taking the Ortiz fight next would be really bad PR. It's been tough for him to spin his current opponent so to double down on that and target the easier Zayas route for a belt would be a bad look. Ortiz needs to get a belt himself in order to eliminate that excuse, maybe he can fight Bakhram or the winner of fundora/thurman if Ennis ducks again (and he beats Lubin who can't be overlooked)
 

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he looks washed doing that pad work
Not sharp, def agree there, but those are 18oz (16oz at very least), and he’s doing work from step/recoil distance, which is always going to test your conditioning, especially if you’re rusty/lack conditioning and wearing larger gloves. Add in the new trainer aka not Derrick, and we got a few things going on.

Not saying he isn’t perhaps washed, but this video could be a little misleading is all.
 
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