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These dudes realize Bud is 38 and fights once a year? :what:
154 is stacked and yet they focused on a dude who is never coming back down to that weight
Eddie need to put the money up so Boots can make a fight people care about, the attendance Saturday looked like a Sixers preseason game

This sounds like an excuse, according to some cats on here Bud is just entering his prime/looking better than ever :sas2:
 

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Who currently bringing this type of energy to boxing (male or female)?

Shyt has been getting too Hollywood around here


man you and your thing for ann wolfe :heh:

i didnt forget about those wild posts you had with her and kirkland :scust:
 

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man you and your thing for ann wolfe :heh:

i didnt forget about those wild posts you had with her and kirkland :scust:

Ann Wolfe is the essence of what the sport is about. She had nothing. She started boxing to make a better way. The most money she made during her career was 30k. She went on to become a trainer to an ungrateful fighter that lost every single fight he had when she wasn’t in his corner. He robbed her of paydays she should have gotten for like Canelo for instance. And why? Why did it come to this? All because she asked this promiscuous dude to start wearing a condom for their sexual encounters to protect herself.
 

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Ann Wolfe is the essence of what the sport is about. She had nothing. She started boxing to make a better way. The most money she made during her career was 30k. She went on to become a trainer to an ungrateful fighter that lost every single fight he had when she wasn’t in his corner. He robbed her of paydays she should have gotten for like Canelo for instance. And why? Why did it come to this? All because she asked this promiscuous dude to start wearing a condom for their sexual encounters to protect herself.
:scusthov: and :heh:
 

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Absolute robbery. Beterbiev admitted himself that "he got lucky" in the post fight interview. Everyone, and I mean everyone thought Bivol would get stopped in 6 rounds. Then when that didn't happen, they had to double back and say "Bu bu bu Beterbiev outboxed Bivol", which they knew was impossible

That's why I don't want to see a useless trilogy. Bivol already outclassed Beterbiev 2 fights in a row
Beterbiev's own coaches/trainers were resigned to a loss and even said so. I mean if that doesn't say anything then what are we even talking about really? His own coaches!

Nah, I didn't think Beterbiev would stop him, Beterbiev is a straight up and down boxer with exceptional punch stamina, force transfer and conditioning. Great boxers beat decent boxers more often than not, irrespective of power.

The only argument that can be mounted towards a Beterbev win is that the judges didn't see the power shots land on Beterbievs head, not because they didn't land perfectly, but because his chin/neck keeps them from being as noticeable as say a novice who gets hit flush and has a bobble head eg (Serrano, Cobbs, McGregor) etc. That and Bivol was edged in the last round. Not for the win though, it's gotta be a draw or a Bivol win.
 

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Ann Wolfe is the essence of what the sport is about. She had nothing. She started boxing to make a better way. The most money she made during her career was 30k. She went on to become a trainer to an ungrateful fighter that lost every single fight he had when she wasn’t in his corner. He robbed her of paydays she should have gotten for like Canelo for instance. And why? Why did it come to this? All because she asked this promiscuous dude to start wearing a condom for their sexual encounters to protect herself.
I always fukked with Ann Wolf heavy, we use to quote her in the gym and everything. 'I give that a motherfukking F' for example.

But wasn't she beating the shyt out of Kirkland in camp and not really training him? That was the story going around. Just sorta abusing him on some damaged human vengeance type shyt? Great conditioning, but more sadistic than sports specific, pugilist preparation.

Kirkland ran the gauntlet against Canelo and it failed, he had a lot of balls as a fighter, he was all chips in, scary shyt in the pros, not for the faint of heart.

To this day Canelo says the Kirkland fight was his hardest opponent. Says it all the time even.
 

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I always fukked with Ann Wolf heavy, we use to quote her in the gym and everything. 'I give that a motherfukking F' for example.

But wasn't she beating the shyt out of Kirkland in camp and not really training him? That was the story going around. Just sorta abusing him on some damaged human vengeance type shyt? Great conditioning, but more sadistic than sports specific, pugilist preparation.

Kirkland ran the gauntlet against Canelo and it failed, he had a lot of balls as a fighter, he was all chips in, scary shyt in the pros, not for the faint of heart.

To this day Canelo says the Kirkland fight was his hardest opponent. Says it all the time even.

Kirkland had no chin. The only way to counter that is to be in extreme shape. A guy like Kirkland can’t take shortcuts in training with a chin like that. Ann knew that, and made sure to train his mind, body, and soul, in every way.
 

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Kirkland had no chin. The only way to counter that is to be in extreme shape. A guy like Kirkland can’t take shortcuts in training with a chin like that. Ann knew that, and made sure to train his mind, body, and soul, in every way.
Tbh I think it was as much to do with leaving his chin so exposed, he put himself right in the firing line, that's why I liked him tbh, crazy balls.

Look I see your point re conditioning / Wolf / Kirkland, but there was more to it, she treated him like a bag of meat and it affected his mental preparation more than it should have.

That's why he gave her the flick. Was it the right move? Probably not, but only those two know how the working relationship was.

Look at that maniac Atlas for example, every fighter he's ever trained has flicked him off after one or two fights, hard person to work with.
 

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:mjcry:

I remember hearing that Lubin's team was pissed that he took this fight because they knew he wasn't ready. Also I know there were alot of people who were mad that he turned pro so quick instead of going to the Olympics, because he had a real shot at going Gold. What's the saying... a shortcut is just a disguised longer road :francis::yeshrug:
 

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But wasn't she beating the shyt out of Kirkland in camp and not really training him? That was the story going around. Just sorta abusing him on some damaged human vengeance type shyt? Great conditioning, but more sadistic than sports specific, pugilist preparation.
this is what i remember. she was like Bud mom on a 100. just mentally and physically abusing dude taking him to these dark places so that the actual fight would be easy. but at what cost. Would be interesting to hear Kirkland perspective on it now
I had no idea they were fukking tho, always assumed she was gay
 
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