Joe C having no heart is new to me, he may have been a slapping as nikka but he was ducked by the best in his prime, which cant even be disputed at allat least joe c never bytched to the ref..ill give him that..he had skills just no fighter's heart..ottke was 100x worse than him..in a just world that fukk should have like 3-4 losses on his record..i hope he NEVER goes into the HOF
Joe fought the best in Bhop and Roy who the fukk you want him to fight after that the bums in the super 6 for chump change like Ward has

the only champ that avoided him was the aforementioned sven ottke cuz he didn't want to unify the belts (and fight out of Germany)..I need to see this list of what 168 champs/contenders in the late 90s to mid 2000s you thought ducked joe c..because 168 was not a poppin division for US fighters during that period
) in higher regard than those 2...and arguably he lost to b-hop..after the jones fight...there were plenty of cats waiting for him at 168 and 175 and he retired because of "hand trouble" to sniff his brains out on coke 

...he HAD fights there