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Regis is the best

Ultimately however, when you put it all together, the blame lies on McClellan's manager (who is not mentioned in any of this, bizarrely), trainer somewhat, and I hate to say it, Mclellan himself.

I'm saying this from the perspective of someone that hates Nigel Benn and Conor Benn even more so.

I'll give you a what if scenario. What if Tim Tsyzu went into a coma after the Bakram fight? Which tbh was a terrifying fight to witness from a health perspective. Who is at blame there? The manager? The trainer? Tim Tsyzu himself, who clearly wanted the fight, and was over confident in a myriad of ways?

It's hard to definitively place one factor, you see where I'm going with this surely?

there were numerous things that created the perfect storm scenario for what happened to g-man vs benn but the catalyst started with a head injury/TBI from a fight with an ATG puncher in julian jackson...that was the beginning of the end and that was almost 2 years before the benn fight....how lisa mcclellan described the aftermath of g-man's first fight with julian jackson is like damn

 

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Breh it's amazing Holyfield still has his mental capabilities in order in the present day.... from all the unnecessary fights he took after he faced Lennox Lewis post 1999

i mean he functions at a level but i dont know if its a high one

but yeah nothing underrated about john ruiz..he is one of the reasons that the heavyweight scene took a dive in the 2000s..his fights were fukking eyesores...he clinched all the way, he bytched and moaned, offense was terrible, he was bland...terrible fighter

 

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Regis is the best

Ultimately however, when you put it all together, the blame lies on McClellan's manager (who is not mentioned in any of this, bizarrely), trainer somewhat, and I hate to say it, Mclellan himself.

I'm saying this from the perspective of someone that hates Nigel Benn and Conor Benn even more so.

I'll give you a what if scenario. What if Tim Tsyzu went into a coma after the Bakram fight? Which tbh was a terrifying fight to witness from a health perspective. Who is at blame there? The manager? The trainer? Tim Tsyzu himself, who clearly wanted the fight, and was over confident in a myriad of ways?

It's hard to definitively place one factor, you see where I'm going with this surely?

Yea that's what I said in my previous post. His career should have ended after the Julian Jackson fight. So it was only a matter of time regardless if he kept avoiding medical help. If it wasn't benn it was gonna be somebody else. But it's still fukk benn and the UK for everything that went down. All the rabbit punches. Headbutts. Stolen mouthpiece. Steroids. Dirty ref. It was too much shyt to overcome.

Maybe if not for that he would have been able to win that fight early and finally come to his senses and get some medical help before distaster struck. Everything that happened over there basically sped up the process times 10. He shoulda never been over there.

 

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Ultimately however, when you put it all together, the blame lies on McClellan's manager (who is not mentioned in any of this, bizarrely), trainer somewhat, and I hate to say it, Mclellan himself.

I'm saying this from the perspective of someone that hates Nigel Benn and Conor Benn even more so.

I'll give you a what if scenario. What if Tim Tsyzu went into a coma after the Bakram fight? Which tbh was a terrifying fight to witness from a health perspective. Who is at blame there? The manager? The trainer? Tim Tsyzu himself, who clearly wanted the fight, and was over confident in a myriad of ways?

It's hard to definitively place one factor, you see where I'm going with this surely?

As far as culpability, I feel the biggest fault you can say that falls on G Man is his him dumping Emmanuel Steward. Even his sister admitted that it was odd that he did that. And that he chose some no name amateur trainer from his neighborhood to train him because "He wanted to be the boss that that new trainer was just a placeholder"

Had Steward been given authority over G-Man's camp, I don't even think the fight with Nigel Benn even happens at that time. Steward instead wanted G Man to face Roy Jones Jr ... Instead of facing a guy like Benn in a new weight division overseas in hostile territory

 

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Yea that's what I said in my previous post. His career should have ended after the Julian Jackson fight. So it was only a matter of time regardless if he kept avoiding medical help. If it wasn't benn it was gonna be somebody else. But it's still fukk benn and the UK for everything that went down. All the rabbit punches. Headbutts. Stolen mouthpiece. Steroids. Dirty ref. It was too much shyt to overcome.

Maybe if not for that he would have been able to win that fight early and finally come to his senses and get some medical help before distaster struck. Everything that happened over there basically sped up the process times 10. He shoulda never been over there.

they were trying to get a superfight with roy jones going....if he had beat benn, he wasn't going to stop and get medical help...there was too much money for that..he would've prolly powered through like he had been doing