Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

[Skooby]

Wow:

 

[patscorpio]

 

[morris]

I get it but he needs to adapt. It’s like a life-long actor who struggles to get roles and nepo or social media has someone else at the forefront; you have to bet where that person is even if their skills are not as strong as yours…adapt their networking skills

 

[patscorpio]

I get it but he needs to adapt. It’s like a life-long actor who struggles to get roles and nepo or social media has someone else at the forefront; you have to bet where that person is even if their skills are not as strong as yours…adapt their networking skills

which is true but like i said boxing brought it on itself where the jake pauls, misfits, and streamers of the world think they can fight and the public responded positively to the shyt

 

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[surv2syn]

The sanctioning fees are sore point for boxers no doubt, but would you rather get paid 10 million or $100,000? Because if you get rid of the sanctioning bodies, then the promoters and networks dictate everything, at all times. The strata that your criticising is far less of an issue when compared to one belt scenarios.

The reason Zuffa has been a trophy so far, is because as a league/promoter, they're not allowed to promote a belt, given it's a huge conflict of interest to be the promoter and the belt. The trophy is just a work around, that is temporarily until the Ali act amendments are approved in congress.

To be perfectly frank, you aren't anywhere close to even conceptualising the tremendous ramifications of a one belt/one promoter scenario. You're concerning yourself with a framework that is drastically less consequential (sanctioning fees etc), than promoter/broadcaster/sanctioining body monopolisation.

A better approach would be to look at the bigger picture, forward projection, case studies such as the UFC, which is where boxing is about to end up.

there is a simple reason why I disagree with a lot of what you are saying......a single championship concept existed before. lol. why is there a WWE Champion and a World Heavyweight Champion? to popularize more than one fighter across a fanbase.

the pro of having these belts are now fighters who arent near the best in their divisions can make a lot of money. the con is, we get less meaningful fights and lower frequency of good fights. I mean I get it but my point is really to say if you keep adding these belts, it will never end and things will further get diluted. you can not honestly sit here and tell me you are happy with getting an one or two undisputed champions every few years. you can barely get lineal champions for that matter. The last WW guy to beat the guy was 20 years ago when Floyd beat Baldomir.

belts do more harm than good for the fans and sometimes to the fighter depends on how unlucky they may be. some bodies dont want unifications depending on who the fighters are. and then they have different rules, like IBF rehydration. thats not to say its a bad thing but they need to go back to unified boxing rules.

have you ever thought about this....had the IBF not been on the line in the first Pac-Marquez fight, Marquez would have lost by the 3KD rule. now of course, he came back and had a great fight and we got more fights between them but on the flipside, Pac could have became a legend off that fight alone. good or bad is not what I am arguing....I am arguing that belts should not dictate the outcome of ANY fight. thats too much. a belt should only matter if you win or lose, not how.

another example is how SRL manipulated these titles (I am a fan btw) but first only the WBC would sanction the fight with Hagler with is really the only way SRL would accept it. had the WBA not stripped Hagler, surely Hagler would have forced a 15 round fight. secondly with Lalonde, having him weigh in at 175 first then 167 for the 168lb title. it was Lalonde's choice but another way a belt was used to manipulate and dictate the terms of a fight.

I get where you are coming from, but that doesnt mean what I am saying is wrong or cant be achieved. both ways you get benefits and drawbacks...but we dont need anymore belts....if anything we need less.

 

[patscorpio]

 

[UpAndComing]

I'm confused why Andy Cruz will go back to the well of the IBF route considering he lost to Muratalla. Unless he suspects that Murtalla may fight Shakur next or vacate and move up

 

[patscorpio]

I'm confused why Andy Cruz will go back to the well of the IBF route considering he lost to Muratalla. Unless he suspects that Murtalla may fight Shakur next or vacate and move up

its possible...muratalla is a big lightweight but beating albert bell is not a given either

 

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