cosigns Floyd was firing on all cylinders against a very dangerous chico..Floyd's best fight bar none
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cosigns Floyd was firing on all cylinders against a very dangerous chico..Floyd's best fight bar none
I felt like death watching that fight
again i still dont understand the fascination with jr...out of all the fighters that get mentioned as overhyped on here...he is the true fukking definition of overhyped
he has numerous gift decisions
he's a plodder that gains a ridiculous amount of weight come fight night
his power isnt anything to write about
his defense is garbage
his overall boxing?forget it
the only thing above average is his chin...he's a walking punching bag..just because he scored a KD on sergio in the final round does not erase the fact he got his ass whooped for 11.5 rounds...117–110, 118–109, and 118–109 for sergio..the injuries that sergio suffered were inflicted by sergio..the hand and the knee...this was an asswhoopin and a half and the broken bones in that idiot's face (inflicted by sergio as well) proved it
he is overhyped. I never said he wasnt. he is decent though and a step up from any of GGG's cherrypicks. GGG may beat him but it wouldnt be easy by any stretch. GGG may be the real deal but when are we going to find out? facing Jr would be a step in the right direction.
it was his most outwardly impressive fight but personally, not for me. Chico was very good and dangerous but the only thing he had over Floyd was power. he was the lesser in every other category boxing wise and physically the advantages where not great. a couple of inches in height and an inch in reach in favor of Chico. it was so impressive because of the magnitude. it was basically the 2nd coming of SRL-Hearns. I think his most impressive fight was Zab all things considered. he had to face a guy with power and possible speed advantage over him. Zab was a better fighter than Chico, especially at WW. Speed and Defense there's no comparison. Floyd patiently waited for Zab to check out mentally and he put a beating on his ass. Worse than Chico. Chico was getting knocked down....Zab was getting a spanking like when you tried to test your big brother but didnt know you werent quite ready for those problems yet.
How often these days does Floyd opponents have height and reach advantages, very rarelyit was his most outwardly impressive fight but personally, not for me. Chico was very good and dangerous but the only thing he had over Floyd was power. he was the lesser in every other category boxing wise and physically the advantages where not great. a couple of inches in height and an inch in reach in favor of Chico. it was so impressive because of the magnitude. it was basically the 2nd coming of SRL-Hearns. I think his most impressive fight was Zab all things considered. he had to face a guy with power and possible speed advantage over him. Zab was a better fighter than Chico, especially at WW. Speed and Defense there's no comparison. Floyd patiently waited for Zab to check out mentally and he put a beating on his ass. Worse than Chico. Chico was getting knocked down....Zab was getting a spanking like when you tried to test your big brother but didnt know you werent quite ready for those problems yet.
And that why people was intrigued, not to mention that they were both undefeated and Chico was on a brutal ko streak
yeah, but thats not the point. Corrales had a slight reach advantage and even less when you considered that he didnt use it. his game was to get inside and land short hooks. the Corrales fight shines much brighter because of the circumstances. undefeated. two guys that were clearly at the top. speed vs power, etc. the Zab fight pales because he had been beaten already and was fresh off a loss but Zab at WW was much more of a threat than Chico was to Floyd. it was impressive as hell....but watching with my eyes....especially after seeing Corrales later in his career...I favor the fights with Zab and believe it or not Castillo. the Castillo first fight, Floyd stood in the pocket and I thought he pulled it out. had he stood like that with Chico he'd been KOed. the Hernandez fight may be better than all of them though. people just didnt know who he was then...but he shut Hernandez out...and he wasnt even ranked in the top 10 when he did it against a guy who was a killer at junior lightweight.
Zab just had got his ass whooped breh, that fight doesn't belong anywhere near the best of Floyd category
I rank Floyd fights in this order as far as his best performance/competitiveness goes
Corrales
Ndou
Gatti
Canelo
Mosley
Augustus
Hatton
Cotto
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Zab just had got his ass whooped breh, that fight doesn't belong anywhere near the best of Floyd category
I rank Floyd fights in this order as far as his best performance/fight goes
Corrales
Ndou
Gatti
Canelo
Mosley
Augustus
Hatton
Cotto
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agree to disagree. how many of those fights was he REALLY threatened in or lost rounds? he lost rounds against Zab and had to fight him in a very particular way. also, I rate the Corley fight above most of those you listed. that was the worst I ever seen him hurt...much more than the Mosley fight even. the DLH fight was impressive too because he had to deal with an educated jab and struggled with it to a degree. Augustus was a good scrap but that was no threat. Hatton...told everybody before the fight what his ass was gonna get. outside of the one shot Shane landed, he did absolutely nothing. and even you say Canelo quit.
as far as Floyd showing his true measure as a fighter....I like...
Zab (basically a physical mirror of himself, something he had not been used to fighting)
Hernandez (FLAWLESS VICTORY!)
Corrales (rose to the occasion on the biggest stage and stopped a killer)
Corley (showed that he aint tryin to lose, hurt badly by former sparring partner who studied his moves)
Castillo I (showed he could take it as well as give it)
Castillo II (then showed there was no way JLC can beat him if he sticks to boxing)
DLH (the jab was keeping him from his normal potshot blowouts)
all of those fighters were in their primes or close to it like DLH, which I prefer when judging. no journey men, hype jobs, paper champs, or blown up JMWs like on your list.
If you want to classify the first 2 rounds which are mostly giveaways in 9/10 matches, because Zab landed one or 2 more shot than Floyd, as trouble then that's your definition and preference
About 3 of the matches you mentioned where straight desktop recycling bin status, no one can say Zab, Castillo x2, ODH, were actually better fights than Ndou, Augustus, Cotto, Mosely, and Hatton
What do you mean? Zab, Castillo, and ODLH gave Floyd 3 of his 4 toughest fights
thank you. those were his toughest fights. I think he likes the fights that Floyd dominated without issue...and thats cool. I prefer to seem him somewhat threatened. Zab definitely was a threat and the glove touching canvas couldve been a KD and forced Floyd to change tactics. noticeably missing was the jab to the sternum. why? because Zab was way to fast for that and could come back over the top with a shot. Floyd basically beat Zab with pure brains. Floyd nearly killed Ndou and Hatton stood about as much chance as a snowball in hell.
Yep, i agree.
If someone asks "what was Floyd's best fights?" then yes, you can give the N'Dou, Corrales, Gatti fights as example of his dominance.
His toughest fights were Zab, ODLH, and Castillo 1
this is true and dont forget Corley fight....he was truly hurt!