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Geale will be GGG's toughest fight to date i'd say. After that I hope he makes the jump up in competition.

And once GGG beats the breaks off Geale people on here will write him off as another generic bum just so they can continue to throw shade... I'm not saying GGG is top 10 p4p or anything, but it just seems like people refuse to give him props for anything. Dude is a very solid boxer with a lot of potential to be great, IMO.

Just out of curiosity, who would Golovkin have to beat for you guys to consider him in the p4p conversation?
 
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I ain't shytting on triple G, dude just needs to fight better competition. After geale you'd hope GGG would want to go after 'dre day or winner of jccjr/froch
 

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I ain't shytting on triple G, dude just needs to fight better competition. After geale you'd hope GGG would want to go after 'dre day or winner of jccjr/froch

Froch is a possibility. JCC jr had his chance to fight GGG and knocked it back because he didn't want to sign an extension on his contract... then signed the extension to fight Froch :sas1:
 

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#algeriangang Lost an eye but took the belt :ohlawd:
 

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It wasnt an option?:snoop:


Brehs, I think Paul E. Haymon is a disservice to the boxing fans:to:


Why the hell WASNT it an option?:mindblown:
 

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From the article YOU just posted:sas1:




Thanks for playing breh:sas2:
From the same site: http://www.badlefthook.com/2012/11/...rco-preview-picks-predictions-hbo-boxing-news

Ryan Bivins

DeMarco should pose as the second stiffest challenge of Broner's career after Ponce De Leon (well, minus Fernando Quintero, who Broner clearly lost to). It's not that I'm confident Ponce De Leon is a better fighter than DeMarco; it's just that his awkwardness was something Broner couldn't quite figure out. DeMarco is a pretty straightforward guy. He's solid, but not particularly extraordinary or unusual in any department. Even though Broner is moving up in weight for this fight I still think he holds all the physical advantages, perhaps minus durability. Durability shouldn't be a problem for Broner here though since I expect him to dish out three times the punishment he receives. Eventually DeMarco will need to be saved by the referee.


If things don't go as planned I expect it's because I've under rated DeMarco's technical skills. He is a southpaw after all. Broner's shoulder rolling may not work like it usually does. Then again Broner has been sparring with Hank Lundy (who is a switch hitter but is proficient fighting out of both stances). I expect him to be prepared. Broner TKO-10.


Brent Brookhouse

This fight is cool in that it represents new challenges for Broner while also going up in weight. DeMarco can thud, the Molina fight was a pretty awesome reminder of that. But Broner is a near otherworldly talent in terms of...well, talent and athletic ability. He'll likely be too quick, too hard to hit and simply too good for DeMarco. It'd be really nice to see Broner in a bit of trouble though Either way, we're going to learn something this fight, but I imagine we learn that Broner, moving up a weight, is still really damn good. I'll takeBroner by stoppage in the middle rounds.

Scott Christ

I have been critical of Broner's crummy matchmaking like anyone who has two actual eyes and a brain might be, but he's got the goods and then some physically. It's all about what he's got mentally, and that hasn't been properly explored yet. We have only the preliminary results from a couple of tough fights, notably the one everyone saw against Daniel Ponce De Leon. There has been no challenge in anything he's done since then, and you can do the Roy Jones Jr bit about how it's just that Broner made them look so bad, but he made them look so bad because these were hand-picked opponents designed entirely to make him look like the next Floyd Mayweather.

And he might be the next Floyd Mayweather. If he's got it upstairs, then he's going to be a force for years, through a few more weight classes. At 23, he's plenty young enough to get even better than he already is, and chances are that's what will happen. He'd be a huge disappointment if he were to flame out. And I like Broner big in this one. DeMarco is a good, admirable fighter, but unless Broner truly cannot deal with southpaws, I think he's going to dominate this fight. It's a great matchup and no matter what happens, the matchmaking should not be faulted. DeMarco's as legit as it gets at 135 and Broner is going straight at him. I just suspect that Broner puts more fuel on the next big thing fire tomorrow night by wiping out a really good opponent, and showing just what kind of fighter he really might be for the next decade or so. Broner TKO-8.

Tom Craze

This is a strange one. On paper, this should be a close fight, and a tough one to call. In reality, ever since it was confirmed I've tried to look past the notion of Broner winning here, yet I've struggled to do so.

Now the question of making weight has been answered, the good news is that, at least, we have a level playing field. My concern, though, is that this won't be the spectacle we're willing it to be. I like DeMarco. I really do, but he's a long way off being as talented as Broner and, gritty though it was, I think too much has been made of a win over a fragile Linares.

Broner may play dumb, but he's no fool, and this is a real test. I think we'll see a more disciplined performance from him, keeping things on side, staying away from a tear-up. I'd fancy him to win a firefight here anyway, but allowing it to turn into one gives DeMarco something to work with. I think Broner boxes his way through the first half of this fight, countering and gradually frustrating his man, before stepping on the gas to grind down a game, but ultimately outclassed DeMarco, to take a clear decision or late stoppage. Broner by UD.

Kory Kitchen

I've written a lot about this fight and Broner for the past few months, and my feelinga remain very mixed on him. Nevertheless, I feel the talent disparity in this matchup is too much for DeMarco, a very good fighter in his own right, to overcome. I could see DeMarco giving Broner some problems with his size in the early going, but gradually talent will tell and speed will kill. I think Broner will grow more comfortable as the fight goes on, and settles in to counter-punching mode. He will have to work, but he should be able to handle his lanky Mexican opponent. Broner by decision.

Final Tally: Adrien Broner 5, Antonio DeMarco 0.

And from boxingscene.com just to put the nail in this discussion: http://www.boxingscene.com/staff-predictions-antonio-demarco-vs-adrien-broner--59458

PREDICTIONS – ANTONIO DEMARCO VS. ADRIEN BRONER

DeMarco is a good fighter and a wonderful story but if you assess his two biggest fights, he was stopped by Edwin Valero and was badly behind against Jorge Linares until the Venezuelan faded late. Broner seems to be better in just about every measurable category and should be more comfortable at 135. I see Broner winning via TKO in 10.
– Ryan Burton (Broner)

Broner has been on a nice run since struggling against Daniel Ponce de Leon in his HBO debut nearly two years ago. As impressive as he’s looked in his past several fights, none of the opponents were on par with Ponce de Leon, never mind DeMarco. There exists the possibility that a fight that goes to the cards results in a Broner win no matter what, but I like DeMarco to do enough to make it impossible to get robbed. DeMarco by decision, scoring two knockdowns along the way.
– Jake Donovan (DeMarco)

If Adrien is what he says he is - and it's my guess that he's at least within jabbing range of that hyperbole - then he's got more than enough skill here to dispatch with a perfectly respectable, but competitively overmatched belt-holder. All bets are off if he takes a solid combo to the jaw, but short of that I expect him to jump, jive and wail his way to a one-sided decision (if not a late stop)
– Lyle Fitzsimmons (Broner)

Adrien Broner TKO8- I think he is the real deal and it will show against DeMarco. DeMarco will give it his all but it will not be enough as Broner will dominate
– Ernest Gabion (Broner)

Broner TKO 10 Demarco: Let me start off by saying DeMarco is a tough individual and never backs down from a brawl. The problem is "The Problem" will not brawl with him. I expect Broner to put on a boxing clinic against the game challenger. DeMarco's only chance is to make it a dog fight early but Broner has too high of a boxing IQ. I expect DeMarco not to stop coming forward but Broner will use his heart against him by breaking him down and stopping him late.
- Tim Kudgis (Broner)

Adrien Broner UD12 Antonio DeMarco. Antonio DeMarco is easily Adrien Broner's toughest test to date, and a southpaw to boot (Daniel Ponce de Leon, anyone?). However, I think Broner has grown since that fight, and his speed and defensive skills will make him a difficult target for DeMarco to hit.
- Ryan Maquiñana (Broner)

I expect Antonio DeMarco to give Adrien Broner a very tough fight. DeMarco is a very slow starter in his fights but once he warms up he comes with some nice aggression. I think Broner will have to dig deep before pulling out a Unanimous Decision
- Chris Robinson (Broner)

Broner UD: DeMarco is tough, and he's improved, but he's going to have a hard time with Broner's speed. I think this could be dull. Broner will probably look for something big in the first half and if he doesn't win we're off to pot shot city. He can beat DeMarco with his feet as much as his hands and that leaves DeMarco to chase. If it gets deep, Broner may face some adversity. We'll see.
– Cliff Rold (Broner)

This is a very intriguing matchup to say the least. One fighter (DeMarco) has already had a career-defining fight, while the other (Broner) thinks he has had one while winning his first world title belt. While Broner has come into his own as a talented fighter with speed and athleticism, DeMarco has faced and beaten strong opposition. Broner's most significant fight against a southpaw was against Daniel Ponce De Leon. He had difficulties against Ponce De Leon and some say he was lucky to get a majority decision victory. DeMarco will fight with more poise and is a better counter-puncher than Ponce De Leon. If DeMarco fights a disciplined fight and could hurt Broner, he has a chance to pull out the victory. However, Broner's speed may be the difference as he pulls out a very close (maybe controversial) decision win.
- Francisco Salazar (Broner)

Broner TKO10 - A solid test for both participants. Broner is facing a big, tall, long lightweight in DeMarco which could pose some stylistic issues throughout the fight. I think DeMarco will definitely test Broner more than his last couple opponents have. I still believe Broner is the real deal and this will be one of the fights that will begin to prove that. I expect Broner's speed and defense to be the ultimate difference as he stops DeMarco on his feet late in the fight.
- Luis Sandoval (Broner)

A nightmare for oracle, if you ask me. Broner looked to be the Man when he fought at super featherweight limit. But he has never met a fighter of Tony's caliber, size and talent combine. The brash boy is in for a rude awakening but his natural talent and defensive prowess will help him squeak behind with the De Leon's like controversy. Knockdows are possible for either part, and Antonio will outwork Broner en route to injustice. Broner SD.
– Alexey Sukachev (Broner)

Total: Adrien Broner 10, Antonio DeMarco 1
 

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I love yall brehs......I really do........................but yall nikkas cant comprehend:russ:


I didnt say people said DeMarco was gonna BEAT Broner:snoop:


What I quoted was

His career will be in trouble the next nikka he fights who has power.and size on him.. (which is pretty much everybody 140 and above not named Paulie


and I responded with:

That's the same thing people thought when he fought Antonio DeMarco who was the 5'10 Champion with a record 28-2 (21 KOs)......and then Broner beat that ass:manny:

Which is TRUE.


Look at the posts you just posted and tell me I'm lying?:sas1:


Yall keep thinking we talking about who was picked to win. No. DeMarco was thought of as a person with the power and size to trouble AB....and he got destroyed.:sas2:


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Brent Brookhouse

This fight is cool in that it represents new challenges for Broner while also going up in weight. DeMarco can thud, the Molina fight was a pretty awesome reminder of that. But Broner is a near otherworldly talent in terms of...well, talent and athletic ability. He'll likely be too quick, too hard to hit and simply too good for DeMarco. It'd be really nice to see Broner in a bit of trouble though Either way, we're going to learn something this fight, but I imagine we learn that Broner, moving up a weight, is still really damn good. I'll takeBroner by stoppage in the middle rounds.

Kory Kitchen

I've written a lot about this fight and Broner for the past few months, and my feelinga remain very mixed on him. Nevertheless, I feel the talent disparity in this matchup is too much for DeMarco, a very good fighter in his own right, to overcome. I could see DeMarco giving Broner some problems with his size in the early going, but gradually talent will tell and speed will kill. I think Broner will grow more comfortable as the fight goes on, and settles in to counter-punching mode. He will have to work, but he should be able to handle his lanky Mexican opponent. Broner by decision.

Tom Craze

This is a strange one. On paper, this should be a close fight, and a tough one to call. In reality, ever since it was confirmed I've tried to look past the notion of Broner winning here, yet I've struggled to do so.

Now the question of making weight has been answered, the good news is that, at least, we have a level playing field. My concern, though, is that this won't be the spectacle we're willing it to be. I like DeMarco. I really do, but he's a long way off being as talented as Broner and, gritty though it was, I think too much has been made of a win over a fragile Linares.

Broner may play dumb, but he's no fool, and this is a real test. I think we'll see a more disciplined performance from him, keeping things on side, staying away from a tear-up. I'd fancy him to win a firefight here anyway, but allowing it to turn into one gives DeMarco something to work with. I think Broner boxes his way through the first half of this fight, countering and gradually frustrating his man, before stepping on the gas to grind down a game, but ultimately outclassed DeMarco, to take a clear decision or late stoppage. Broner by UD.

From your boxingscene post

Broner has been on a nice run since struggling against Daniel Ponce de Leon in his HBO debut nearly two years ago. As impressive as he’s looked in his past several fights, none of the opponents were on par with Ponce de Leon, never mind DeMarco. There exists the possibility that a fight that goes to the cards results in a Broner win no matter what, but I like DeMarco to do enough to make it impossible to get robbed. DeMarco by decision, scoring two knockdowns along the way.
– Jake Donovan (DeMarco)


Broner TKO 10 Demarco: Let me start off by saying DeMarco is a tough individual and never backs down from a brawl. The problem is "The Problem" will not brawl with him. I expect Broner to put on a boxing clinic against the game challenger. DeMarco's only chance is to make it a dog fight early but Broner has too high of a boxing IQ. I expect DeMarco not to stop coming forward but Broner will use his heart against him by breaking him down and stopping him late.
- Tim Kudgis (Broner)

Adrien Broner UD12 Antonio DeMarco. Antonio DeMarco is easily Adrien Broner's toughest test to date, and a southpaw to boot (Daniel Ponce de Leon, anyone?). However, I think Broner has grown since that fight, and his speed and defensive skills will make him a difficult target for DeMarco to hit.
- Ryan Maquiñana (Broner)

I expect Antonio DeMarco to give Adrien Broner a very tough fight. DeMarco is a very slow starter in his fights but once he warms up he comes with some nice aggression. I think Broner will have to dig deep before pulling out a Unanimous Decision
- Chris Robinson (Broner)

This is a very intriguing matchup to say the least. One fighter (DeMarco) has already had a career-defining fight, while the other (Broner) thinks he has had one while winning his first world title belt. While Broner has come into his own as a talented fighter with speed and athleticism, DeMarco has faced and beaten strong opposition. Broner's most significant fight against a southpaw was against Daniel Ponce De Leon. He had difficulties against Ponce De Leon and some say he was lucky to get a majority decision victory. DeMarco will fight with more poise and is a better counter-puncher than Ponce De Leon. If DeMarco fights a disciplined fight and could hurt Broner, he has a chance to pull out the victory. However, Broner's speed may be the difference as he pulls out a very close (maybe controversial) decision win.
- Francisco Salazar (Broner)

Broner TKO10 - A solid test for both participants. Broner is facing a big, tall, long lightweight in DeMarco which could pose some stylistic issues throughout the fight. I think DeMarco will definitely test Broner more than his last couple opponents have. I still believe Broner is the real deal and this will be one of the fights that will begin to prove that. I expect Broner's speed and defense to be the ultimate difference as he stops DeMarco on his feet late in the fight.
- Luis Sandoval (Broner)

A nightmare for oracle, if you ask me. Broner looked to be the Man when he fought at super featherweight limit. But he has never met a fighter of Tony's caliber, size and talent combine. The brash boy is in for a rude awakening but his natural talent and defensive prowess will help him squeak behind with the De Leon's like controversy. Knockdows are possible for either part, and Antonio will outwork Broner en route to injustice. Broner SD.
– Alexey Sukachev (Broner)


So........obviously like I said, nikkas thought DeMarco will cause problems for Broner with his size and power. Yes, they picked Broner to win as their final decision, and only a fool would pick Broner to lose up to that point (look how many of US picked Broner to DESTROY Marcos Maidana:mjpls:), but that didnt stop people from thinking that DeMarco was gonna be a test for Broner and could trouble him with his size and power.....until they got in the ring and AB whooped that ass:blessed:


The proof is in the quotes that you just posted breh.............thanks for playing though:smugbiden:


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It wasnt an option?:snoop:


Brehs, I think Paul E. Haymon is a disservice to the boxing fans:to:


Why the hell WASNT it an option?:mindblown:

I don't see why they are bullshytting us. You got two guys with the same manager and same promoter yet them fighting one another is not an option? Give me a break.
 

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I love yall brehs......I really do........................but yall nikkas cant comprehend:russ:


I didnt say people said DeMarco was gonna BEAT Broner:snoop:


What I quoted was




and I responded with:



Which is TRUE.


Look at the posts you just posted and tell me I'm lying?:sas1:


Yall keep thinking we talking about who was picked to win. No. DeMarco was thought of as a person with the power and size to trouble AB....and he got destroyed.:sas2:





So........obviously like I said, nikkas thought DeMarco will cause problems for Broner with his size and power. Yes, they picked Broner to win as their final decision, and only a fool would pick Broner to lose up to that point (look how many of US picked Broner to DESTROY Marcos Maidana:mjpls:), but that didnt stop people from thinking that DeMarco was gonna be a test for Broner and could trouble him with his size and power.....until they got in the ring and AB whooped that ass:blessed:


The proof is in the quotes that you just posted breh.............thanks for playing though:smugbiden:


#BandCamp


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nikkas might have THOUGHT whatever. Adrian Broner outweighed Demarco by 5 lbs on fight night.. So Demarco is not a good enough example to support your argument.. nikka should go back to 135 before he gets fukked up again
 

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For all the shyt he gets, GGG has skills. It is frustrating that he's only fighting the Bull Buchanans of the world. Geale is legit though and a good start. I think when he starts fighting legit competition he'll show he's not a bum. He won't be getting exposed.

Now Kovalev on the other hand :ufdup:
 

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nikkas might have THOUGHT whatever. Adrian Broner outweighed Demarco by 5 lbs on fight night.. So Demarco is not a good enough example to support your argument.. nikka should go back to 135 before he gets fukked up again

Isnt thoughts the main driving force about boxing? Speculating on who would/could win.....until they actually get in the ring and the truth is proven?:dwillhuh:

Anyways, as far as going backl to 135, we want Manny Pacquiao to send us back there:mjpls:


Surely fighting Chris Algieri or Abregu cant be a better money fight than fighting Adrien Broner can they? Especially when Pacquiao doesnt need another tune up fight you said:sas2:
 
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