The Official Cleveland Cavs Firesale Thread

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

he has been to 7 straight Finals. looking at this (dis)organization, he isnt the problem. he is damn near the only one out there even playing hard. he was playing hard last night. there are a lot of problems, starting with the loss of Griffin and Kyrie. Lue being slow to make adjustments or not make them at all. His defense and not being able to get guys to play hard. its a lot of internal stuff rather than pointing at one particular player. Bron was leading by example last night by playing hard, I dont know what anyone can really "check" him about.

LeBron was NOT playing hard last night, and he hasn't been playing hard for a minute now. I don't know what games you've been watching.

 

[mastermind]

real talk, each game goes by its looking like no way Bron is staying in Cleveland, and the reason is simple, because Gilbert wouldnt pay Griffin. if Griffin were there this team wouldnt look like this. first of all PG would be there and not in OKC

Griffin ain’t no gawd GM.

And they wouldn’t win a title with PG.

 

[surv2syn]

Lebron was playing so hard there. left IT to guard his man on a break upcourt. This is from the beginning of the game..this the tone he set

so what do you "check" him about? what determines that he is not a "good" leader? he has been to the Finals half of the time he has been in the league. we have to get real specific here about leadership. what can he do better? he isnt perfect. people say Chris Paul is a good leader but cant get out of the 2nd round. McHale said Harden WASNT a good leader so he needs Paul to help him. We just have to be really specific when talking about leadership qualities. I just dont think someone has the type of success he has had with different teams and NOT be at least a "good" leader. so all of a sudden this team is worse than his team with Mo Williams and he is not a good leader? Not buying it.

 

[Malta]

I wouldn't trade the Nets pick, it's going to be a lottery pick, people acting like it coming in 6-10 is some terrible thing.


Paul George - 10th pick
Gordon Hayward - 9th pick
Damian Lillard - 6th pick
Klay Thompson - 11th pick
Cj McCollum - 10th pick
Andre Drummond - 9th pick
Giannis Antetokounmpo - 15th pick
Donovan Mitchell - 13th pick
Myles Turner - 11th pick


If LeBron wants that traded he'd have to sign the extension for me, fukk all that other shyt, you not about to force my hand to trade a pick then leave

 

[surv2syn]

LeBron was NOT playing hard last night, and he hasn't been playing hard for a minute now. I don't know what games you've been watching.

I been watching the games not the highlights. breh, I have never heard you compliment Bron one time about anything so to you , he does no right. yet you be caping for J.R. Smith.

nikka the whole team is trash, so who was playing HARDER than he was last night? IT? J.R.? Crowder? man, nobody on the Cavs was playing defense. individually or help. so you didnt see the play where Bron intercepted the oop to GG, dribbled down, turned the ball over, then sprinted back and blocked a 2nd oop to GG? its one play and that doesnt mean he played hard every play but he tries so I cant say there is anyone on CLE that is consistently out there playing any harder.

 

[surv2syn]

I wouldn't trade the Nets pick, it's going to be a lottery pick, people acting like it coming in 6-10 is some terrible thing.


Paul George - 10th pick
Gordon Hayward - 9th pick
Damian Lillard - 6th pick
Klay Thompson - 11th pick
Cj McCollum - 10th pick
Andre Drummond - 9th pick
Giannis Antetokounmpo - 15th pick
Donovan Mitchell - 13th pick
Myles Turner - 11th pick


If LeBron wants that traded he'd have to sign the extension for me, fukk all that other shyt, you not about to force my hand to trade a pick then leave

even with that pick, with no Bron, Cavs wont be relevant for another 5 years minimum. that pick is going to be a good pick, I have no doubt about it because the first 8 is going to be pretty deep.... but none of those players you mentioned abouve could single-handedly change the fortunes of a bad team, not even Kyrie could as the #1 pick, Davis couldnt, and so on. whatever leverage Gilbert thinks he has, he better think again.

 

[surv2syn]

Griffin ain’t no gawd GM.

And they wouldn’t win a title with PG.

I didnt say any of that. I am saying the team wouldve looked different because Griffin had moves in play and the Kyrie deal couldve looked different if he were there. then the Billups debacle. I am not going that far talking about Finals, but PG is a consistent 2nd option, just like I mentioned about CJ. Cavs have a great 2nd option in Love, but I would think a trio of Bron, Love, and PG would be playing better than this team up until this point. Especially since Crowder has been trash on defense, while PG has performed way better on that end.

 

[Truefan31]

I been watching the games not the highlights. breh, I have never heard you compliment Bron one time about anything so to you , he does no right. yet you be caping for J.R. Smith.

nikka the whole team is trash, so who was playing HARDER than he was last night? IT? J.R.? Crowder? man, nobody on the Cavs was playing defense. individually or help. so you didnt see the play where Bron intercepted the oop to GG, dribbled down, turned the ball over, then sprinted back and blocked a 2nd oop to GG? its one play and that doesnt mean he played hard every play but he tries so I cant say there is anyone on CLE that is consistently out there playing any harder.

just because the rest of the team is lazy it doesn't propel Bron to "he's playing hard". They're all equally giving trash efforts.

There were plenty of plays where bron was leaving teammates on an island to defend, and sitting/watching the dunk session the Rockets put on them.

 

[Kiyoshi-Dono]

Gon sound Crazy but Lebron is really the problem.

He is a great player, but he is not a real leader. And he is too respected so nobody will check him in the organization.

Tyron Lue sitting there with his mouth half open looking like he asking himself random rhetortical questions in his head:
Do defense really win championships?
Will Bron go to the Clippers or Warriors?
Do Chris Paul actually have State Farm?
I wonder if this bish know her meatloaf be dry as fux?
Damn we down by 30?...How that happen?

 

[surv2syn]

just because the rest of the team is lazy it doesn't propel Bron to "he's playing hard". They're all equally giving trash efforts.

There were plenty of plays where bron was leaving teammates on an island to defend, and sitting/watching the dunk session the Rockets put on them.

so back on point, then you would say Bron isnt a good leader because he isnt playing hard? I mean if thats reasoning for him not being a good leader and its factual then I would go with that.

 

[Sterling Archer]

This nikka @synistr finna have 50 posts in this thread.

 

[surv2syn]

This nikka @synistr finna have 50 posts in this thread.

nah, I'm out, aint that serious. I was just looking for some answers. I will respond, I dont cower, plus I type fast so its nuffin.

 

[Sohh_lifted]

Leave Miami for Cleveland brehs.

 

[surv2syn]

Leave Miami for Cleveland brehs.

funny thing. I been thinkin about this lately that what if he (and DWade even) went back to Miami? is it likely? we all know DWade will retire as a Heat, not sure if he would ever play there again tho.

 

[Sohh_lifted]

funny thing. I been thinkin about this lately that what if he (and DWade even) went back to Miami? is it likely? we all know DWade will retire as a Heat, not sure if he would ever play there again tho.

hes not coming back, that is done and gone.