The Official Israel 🇮🇱 & Gaza 🇵🇸 Thread
Well said
Not gonna lie—this reads like Israeli propaganda. I’m not sure if you’re aware, but Gaza is only about 25 miles long and homes over 2.1 million people. It’s one of the most densely populated places on Earth. The entire strip is packed with civilian infrastructure( homes, schools, hospitals, markets etx) —leaving virtually no space for Israel style military conflict. That’s precisely why Israel’s campaign of indiscriminate airstrikes is not just inexcusable—it’s inhumane. When bombs fall on densely packed neighborhoods, the idea of “precision” becomes meaningless. There’s no such thing as collateral damage when the collateral is entire families, apartment blocks, and refugee camps. Gaza is smaller than pretty much every US major city and most more populus
Because it's easy to champion for a David and Goliath story when you're an extremist, being fueled extremist propaganda, or just a well meaning person who won't be harmed (besides being convinced this was a lynchpin issue leading your own country into facism at 200mph).
Well, Hamas for one. Or else they wouldn't have started this fiasco in the first place then refusing a ceasefire without maximalist concessions despite not having any leverage.
Or we can take them for their word and believe they knew the outcome and believed it would usher some global push to save them.
Biden administration was uniquely evil and stupid on this. Brett McGurk, Jake Sullivan and Tony Blinken should never be part of another Dem administration.
And I firmly believe Obama would have never let this shid go this far. Same with Clinton and both Bushes.
Did smooth mind who said there was vindication in January just call someone unserious again?
The little credibility they had was lost when they casually dismissed thousands of lives saved with “10% less genocide” as insignificant
And it will be further lost when they start pushing soft trump apologia (again)
Hamas has been signaling a willingness to surrender for more than a year. They have repeatedly offered to relinquish governance over Gaza and, more recently, even proposed giving up their heavy weapons (though not small arms like rifles). Hamas understands that they are no military match for the Israeli government.Well, Hamas for one. Or else they wouldn't have started this fiasco in the first place then refusing a ceasefire without maximalist concessions despite not having any leverage.
Or we can take them for their word and believe they knew the outcome and believed it would usher some global push to save them.
What has repeatedly derailed negotiations — most notably the ceasefire deal that was nearly finalized just before Trump’s inauguration — is that Prime Minister Netanyahu has continually changed the terms of the agreement. The current Israeli government has not acted as an honest broker in these discussions.
It’s important to approach Western media coverage of this issue with skepticism. Both Trump and Biden have misrepresented key facts, and much of our media has obscured rather than clarified the truth. This is why so much of the world is outraged — and why the United States remains one of the few nations still standing firmly behind Israel.
You are being lied to and you are regurgitating those lies.
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Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
Both sides are spreading propaganda about the conflict. Hamas and Hamas benefactors are just as deceitful and propagandistic, the only difference is that Israel holds the bigger gun
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
You are right that both sides are spreading propaganda.
The key difference, however, is that Western governments and Western (mainstream) media are not spreading Hamas's propaganda nor obfuscating Hamas's war crimes the way that have done for Israel.
But the Biden and Trump Administrations repeatedly lied to the American people about what has been the key block to a deal (Netanyahu trying to avoid prison, the far right genocidal members of Netanyahu's cabinet, etc.)
How many Americans even know that around a year back members of the Israeli military (or maybe prison guards, I dont remember) were actually raping Palestinian prisoners? Members of my own family who are news junkies dont know that, because western media (mainstream) media wasn't reporting on it. The rest of the world knows all this, that is why they are so outraged.
We are being lied to in the name of a government that has been expressing genocidal intent (explicitly) since October 7, and our tax dollars are funding the genocide while our diplomatic capital is being expended to protect such country while the rest of the world becomes more and more disgusted with us.
Tyrese offers his thanks to President Trump. The first of many I’m sure.