This is hilarious coming from someone who has been cheering on genocide for the last two years.
When you actually believe that you were chosen, you possibly can’t be wrong. Not even when you are committing genocide.
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This is hilarious coming from someone who has been cheering on genocide for the last two years.
When you actually believe that you were chosen, you possibly can’t be wrong. Not even when you are committing genocide.
It’s almost like the democrats are being dragged to do the right thing. The thing everybody with common sense was saying would happen. Only unfortunate thing is they have no political power to do anything with their new found moral compass. Hopefully emperor Trump and his cult find their moral compass before the resort goes up.
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This country can only become progressive if Republican regressive positions become untenable. Democrats aren’t the problem
Dems are a part of the problem. Not as big as Republicans obviously, but they are owned by corporations just like Republicans and they are owned by IPAC in foreign policy.
The fact that Biden chose not to end the war in Gaza and didn’t face pushback from establishment Liberals speaks volumes about where they stand.
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I don’t know Palestinian clan dynamics. The way both are talking reminds me of Somalis
I don’t know Palestinian clan dynamics. The way both are talking reminds me of Somalis
Sounds like JD will be making his way over there to greet the hostages once the deed is done.
It was an unfortunate, but predictable miscalculation. In any other scenario if one’s goal was to gain something, you would want easier/more favorable opposition. Since January that has been proven to be the democrats (which we already knew). Now the only people in DC who have changed stances due to public pressure are without political power. And the people with political power are racist cultists beholden to an orange god and isreal. Let’s see where we go from here.
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Doesn’t matter. Foreign policy shouldn't override domestic policy, especially when Hamas kicked off the genocide
Sounds like a civil strife is brewing in Gaza
And looks like the ceasefire will be broken
And looks like the ceasefire will be broken
Israel backed civil war against hamas/other factions this will get ugly
I know you posted this a few days ago, but I wanted to come back to this.
First of all, it's very important that we continue to elevate Palestinian voices. Lord knows they get ignored enough by the MSM.
I would not be surprised if there's a good amount of Palestinians who agree with Muhammad Shehada, and God bless them. War is hell under the best of circumstances. Now factor in a genocidal enemy in the IDF, who views indiscriminate bombing and sniping of children in the head (while being cheerlead by ghouls in the West). I cannot in good faith discount or dismiss anyone who rues the decision by Hamas to launch their attack on October 7.
However I think, that unlike outlets like the NYTimes that speak to 4 Gazans opposed to Hamas and presents their average opinion as representative of the entire population, we need to acknowledge that there will be a spectrum of opinions, most of who mourn the current genocide, yet are not ignorant of reality prior to October 7.
Below is a translation of a summary of a book published by a Hamas operative recently, concerning Al-Aqsa Flood (October 7).
What do Hamas Think About the War?
It's a bit of a long read (which I recommend) but in summary it puts the attack in context of several factors
- Israel's rejection of several peaceful/political initiatives to end the Gaza imprisonment and West Bank Apartheid and partitions
- The oncoming marginalization of the Palestinian issue by the potential signing of the Abraham Accords by Saudi Arabia
- The discovery of flaws in Israel's security perimeter, and the urge to force the issue before the flaws were discovered and closed
It is important to acknowledge Hamas' assertion that they literally were caught between a rock and a hard place, with the ultimate effect of the pincer being the forced displacement of Palestinians out of Gaza, providing a template for the West Bank (which is similarly being squeezed). I've had the misfortune of debating with our band of resident retards, one of whom confidently and retardedly states that a non-violent approach would have been the panacea to this issue. Again, the West Bank serves as a simple riposte to this dumb hypothesis.
So while appreciative of Shehada's perspective, evidence does not suggest that the attack was a reckless move... I think it was a carefully deliberated roll of the dice.
What Hamas could not have anticipated was the extent to which Israel was given carte blanche by Biden and the rest of the Western world to not only pursue Hamas operatives, but commit genocide. That was an operational mistake. Like you acknowledged, previous presidents (on both sides of the fence) would have reigned Israel in a long time ago.
Fast forward to today. Nearly 60,000 Palestinians directly killed. Gaza in ruins. Widespread starvation and famine and disease. God forbid I state that this is an acceptable outcome.
On the other hand, Israel's global reputation in tatters. They've lost the upcoming generation at the polls. This is the first time I've seen American politicians on both sides of the aisle (in greater numbers) questioning our support of Israel. The Arab countries led by Saudi Arabia have unequivocally stated that normalization will not happen without the establishment of a Palestinian state. France, the UK, Canada, Australia have recognized Palestine, leaving the US as the only SC member supporting Israel (and this is probably contingent on keeping a more reasonable person out of the White House). Siding with Israel is seen as toxic today. This was unthinkable before October 7.
Only Palestinians have the right to ultimately judge October 7. I'm cautiously hopeful that recent events, despite the tragedy and devastation, have brought us closer to the establishment of an independent and sovereign Palestinian state where this debate and judgement can be had.
As a whole, if Dems keep ratcheting over to those regressive positions, they kinda become a part of the problem.
Unless I misunderstood the statement here.
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New Hope For the HaveNotz
Which makes it even more important that Republican positions should be seen& acknowledged as unpopular not non-existent/ignored/a forced of unmovable evilAs a whole, if Dems keep ratcheting over to those regressive positions, they kinda become a part of the problem.
Unless I misunderstood the statement here.
As a whole, if Dems keep ratcheting over to those regressive positions, they kinda become a part of the problem.
Unless I misunderstood the statement here.
No you didn't misunderstand the statement.
You're simply not comprehending the depravity of our BlueMAGA/Zionist/retarded contingent.
They don't view the genocide and apartheid as an issue of our time that needs to be ended and judged appropriately. They are simply angry that enough people made Gaza a primary vote-deciding issue that it tanked Biden/Kamala's re-election/election chances.
This is why
- They're both-siding this issue (what about the Republicans??): they want the fact that Democrats are marginally better than Republicans on this issue (more ethical, more green, 10% less genocide!!) to be enough to swing the vote. This is the strategy that that dumb idiot went with, and lost badly with, despite blowing over $1 billion...
- They align with that fukking ghoulish Zionist b*stard Van Jones and view the outrage over Gaza as an output of Iranian and Chinese disinformation (it's impossible for Americans to be upset at genocide unless foreign actors infiltrate our social media). I'm sure the same was said about protestors during the Vietnam War: influenced by commies...
- They didn't get upset at domestic protestors like Mahmoud Khalil being targeted by the Trump administration, and suddenly lost it when Trump expanded those gestapo tactics to Americans and undocumented immigrants...
That's why, despite Trump's overall odiousness and ineptitude and amoral nature, his (imperfect yet substantial) moves at forcing a lasting ceasefire aren't being met with relief. They couldn't give a shyt if more people died or not. God forbid Trump get any praise for this. That's their overall concern. They ignore the fact that Biden could have done this. They ignore the fact that Kamala could have come out more forcefully on this. They ignore the fact that Mandani despite being popular (including among Jewish New workers) is being shunned by the Democratic establishment precisely because of his principled stance. They ignore the Democratic establishment's silence on the ceasefire or next steps. It's simply about the line of scrimmage and ensuring they marginally look better than Republicans. If that means they pride themselves on conducting a more ethical, 10% less genocide (despite having the power to do much better), so be it.