The Official Israel 🇮🇱 & Gaza 🇵🇸 Thread

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Negotiators including hamas have all said biden was never serious about pushing bibi into a ceasefire. I'm not sure why you continue defending a weak and incompetent leadership that has led us to trump. Its honestly weird.
Both negotiating parties understand the edict that they must shyt on Biden at all costs to curry favor from the orange menace
 

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Both negotiating parties understand the edict that they must shyt on Biden at all costs to curry favor from the orange menace
Either you're being willfully ignorant or genuinely delusional—maybe both. Even members of Biden’s own Defense Department have acknowledged that he never tried to pressure Netanyahu toward a ceasefire. Its weird you keep running in here years later carrying water for a politician who prioritized Israeli supremacy, even if it meant empowering an future trump authoritarian regime.
 

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Either you're being willfully ignorant or genuinely delusional—maybe both. Even members of Biden’s own Defense Department have acknowledged that he never tried to pressure Netanyahu toward a ceasefire.

Biden could have put forth a ceasefire plan but at the same time didn't bother to push for it. Does it make sense? No. But is it possible? Yes.
 

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Biden could have put forth a ceasefire plan but at the same time didn't bother to push for it. Does it make sense? No. But is it possible? Yes.
It didn't make sense when he bragged about being a lifelong committed zionist after Israel murdered 20k women and children either, but here we are
 

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What are you arguing about re: Biden ? I already agree with all that, you can just look at my post history.

My point is about Netanyahu. And yes he did work with Trump, what are you on about ? It's just factual that Trump and Bibi were talking before the 2024 elections. Do you think they were chatting about the weather ?
Here : Why Trump’s Phone Call With Netanyahu Is So Alarming

Regardless of Biden's decisions, Bibi and Trump made it so nothing would be solved in 2024 and we all know Bibi has always favored a Repub admin since the Clinton days.

Once again so I'm clear, that doesn't excuse Biden and his admin in any way shape or form. They could and should have push harder and relentlessly to broker a peace deal during his time in power. But that doesn't mean Bibi didn't undermine them at every step of the way.

They both were in the wrong.

Here's the thing. They know and don't care that Bibi and Trump orchestrated this entire thing for their political benefit. They also don't care that Trump and his family have enriched themselves by 10s of billions of dollars from both Israel and the Arabs to cement this phony ceasefire which will lead to even more conflict and Palestinian deaths. All they seem to really care about is damaging the Dem party, liberalism, and democracy.
 
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