The Official Israel 🇮🇱 & Gaza 🇵🇸 Thread

[Robbie3000]

There was over 400,000 slaves in Haiti with 40,000 cac colonist on the island. The Haitians had good odds of winning. The situation isn’t comparable at all.

The odds in Haiti weren’t the same as the odds in america nor the odds Hamas faced against Israel in 2023.

I’m not on the side of Israel, I’m on the side of the least amount of human suffering

You can spin all day, but no one is ever going to forget that you called Nat Turner and enslaved people who died fighting for their freedoms crash dummies.

If you had any shame at all you would say a silent apology to your ancestors and dead this convo all together.

 

[Outlaw]

You can spin all day, but no one is ever going to forget that you called Nat Turner and enslaved people who died fighting for their freedoms crash dummies.

If you had any shame at all you would say a silent apology to your ancestors and dead this convo all together.

I said no such thing, you can disagree without creating a straw man

 

[88m3]

constantly trying to drag black people and slavery into this discussion is absolutely disgusting

ya'll should be ashamed of yourselves if you're black

 

[88m3]

I’m not on the side of Israel, I’m on the side of the least amount of human suffering

they don't care about human suffering or death tolls

 

[wire28]

constantly trying to drag black people and slavery into this discussion is absolutely disgusting

ya'll should be ashamed of yourselves if you're black

I do admit it was a master stroke changing the subject from not so soft Trump apologia and the casual dismal of thousands of lives gone because “only 10%” (their estimation not mine) to discussions about the 1800s and why certain anonymous posters deserve to be placed in chattel slavery in the year 2025. I’d guess I’d want to change the subject too if I was having a hard time explaining why several thousand people still being alive didn’t matter to me.

Our Allstars never cease to surprise me

 

[barese]

After 40.000 people in Genoa:

Italian dockworkers threaten Israel cargo ban if Gaza flotilla blocked

“If we lose contact with our boats … even for just 20 minutes, we will shut down all of Europe,” dockworker says.

www.politico.eu

A new aid flotilla bound for Gaza set sail from Genoa on Sunday, with a dockworker warning that if communication with the flotilla is lost, port workers would immediately block all shipments to Israel.


The ships will join the Global Sumud Flotilla expedition, which departed from Barcelona on Sunday in an effort to deliver humanitarian supplies through Israel’s blockade.


Speaking at a rally on the docks of Genoa, one of Europe's largest ports, a dockworker representing the USB union said that if communication with the flotilla were lost “even for just 20 minutes,” port workers would immediately block all shipments to Israel, regardless of their content.

On Saturday, over 40,000 people, including the city's mayor, Silvia Salis, joined a torchlit march through the streets in support of the mission

Today Flotilla departed from Catania, Sicily. Thousands of people were there...

A parlamentarian from Democratic Party will be on Flotilla:







The idea is that if dozens or hopefully hundreds of boats, with thousands of peaceful volunteers on them, try at the same time what Freedom Flotilla failed, someone might pass...


Even if not, it is still doing something that will bother and possibly distract the ongoing genocide...


At the bare least, it is a symbolic move while the governments are silent..

 

[Robbie3000]

I do admit it was a master stroke changing the subject from not so soft Trump apologia and the casual dismal of thousands of lives gone because “only 10%” (their estimation not mine) to discussions about the 1800s and why certain anonymous posters deserve to be placed in chattel slavery in the year 2025. I’d guess I’d want to change the subject too if I was having a hard time explaining why several thousand people still being alive didn’t matter to me.

Our Allstars never cease to surprise me

Saying that people should accept 10% less genocide when the president has the power to end 100% of it is one of the dumbest arguments ever put forth.

 

[wire28]

After 40.000 people in Genoa:

Italian dockworkers threaten Israel cargo ban if Gaza flotilla blocked

“If we lose contact with our boats … even for just 20 minutes, we will shut down all of Europe,” dockworker says.

www.politico.eu

Today Flotilla departed from Catania, Sicily. Thousands of people were there...

A parlamentarian from Democratic Party will be on Flotilla:







The idea is that if dozens or hopefully hundreds of boats, with thousands of peaceful volunteers on them, try at the same time what Freedom Flotilla failed, someone might pass...


Even if not, it is still doing something that will bother and possibly distract the ongoing genocide...


At the bare least, it is a symbolic move while the governments are silent..

I wouldn’t necessarily say it’s symbolic. It’s definitely more than literally everybody else who is allegedly concerned is doing.

At the end of the day the only people that are going to stop what’s going on is Trump and Bibi. If whatever you’re doing isn’t focused on making that happen, you’re just having fun out here.

 

[barese]

On Sunday the Flotilla departed from Barcelona:

 

[Pressure]

Damn he doubled down on wishing an anonymous guy on a message board be put in chattel slavery in the year 2025 of our lord and savior?

@FAH1223 you wild for letting buddy do his thing wishing death and slavery on nikkas but banning nikkas for petty shyt

Africans attempting to inject chattel slavery to win over black Americans in an issue that has nothing to do with them is peak higher learning

 

[MAKAVELI25]

Saying that people should accept 10% less genocide when the president has the power to end 100% of it is one of the dumbest arguments ever put forth.

I agree with this completely, and it is a stain on Joe Biden's legacy that he allowed the initial beginnings of what is now occurring. I also agree that Kamala didn't articulate any concrete policies other than rhetoric distinguishing how she would deal with the what was happening in Gaza.

But what would you say to the 10% of mothers who didn't have to lose their children? Or the fathers who didn't have to lose their wives and vice versa?

If Joe Biden or Kamala were President, would Laura Loomer be able to influence the State Department not to allow Palestinians children that require medical care to come to the US?
Would we have an ambassador to Israel who says that Palestinians don't exist?

When we get down to nuts and bolts, what happens on the fringes affects real people. Some of you seem to think that "better" is not better than "worse" and the entire house should be burned down regardless.

 

[Robbie3000]

I agree with this completely, and it is a stain on Joe Biden's legacy that he allowed the initial beginnings of what is now occurring. I also agree that Kamala didn't articulate any concrete policies other than rhetoric distinguishing how she would deal with the what was happening in Gaza.

But what would you say to the 10% of mothers who didn't have to lose their children? Or the fathers who didn't have to lose their wives and vice versa?

If Joe Biden or Kamala were President, would Laura Loomer be able to influence the State Department not to allow Palestinians children that require medical care to come to the US?
Would we have an ambassador to Israel who says that Palestinians don't exist?

When we get down to nuts and bolts, what happens on the fringes affects real people. Some of you seem to think that "better" is not better than "worse" and the entire house should be burned down regardless.

This was really a thought exercise because more Palestinians died and more destruction happened under Biden than under Trump.

So if Kamala continued Biden’s policies like she said.

 

[Loose]

I agree with this completely, and it is a stain on Joe Biden's legacy that he allowed the initial beginnings of what is now occurring. I also agree that Kamala didn't articulate any concrete policies other than rhetoric distinguishing how she would deal with the what was happening in Gaza.

But what would you say to the 10% of mothers who didn't have to lose their children? Or the fathers who didn't have to lose their wives and vice versa?

If Joe Biden or Kamala were President, would Laura Loomer be able to influence the State Department not to allow Palestinians children that require medical care to come to the US?
Would we have an ambassador to Israel who says that Palestinians don't exist?

When we get down to nuts and bolts, what happens on the fringes affects real people. Some of you seem to think that "better" is not better than "worse" and the entire house should be burned down regardless.

It would be the whitewashed version of the genocide we've already witnessed. The “we're working aimlessly to reach a ceasefire and hoping to bring all the hostages home” rhetoric masks the reality: behind closed doors, they're telling Bibi to slaughter as many Palestinians as possible—and supplying his regime with the weapons to do it.

The old playbook, which should be obvious by now, has Blue MAGA members defending the fact that Joe Biden gave the directive for Bibi to blow up 95% of the buildings in Gaza. A slow, steady ethnic cleansing—once defended by people on the left. Now that the right is executing it, the left no longer feels morally obligated to defend the indefensible, aside from a few centrist Zionist lunatics like @Outlaw.

If this entire thing had happened under Trump, he would’ve received marching orders to be rightfully dragged—just as Biden should have been, and now Trump again. When you don’t stand for anything morally, it’s inconceivable to understand why people hold such views, regardless of who’s in power.

As for the “10%” argument—it’s an arbitrary, mostly irrelevant number. Sure, fewer deaths would be nice, but we blew past the “would be nice” phase back in December 2023. Joe Biden facilitated the murder of 30,000+ children under his watch, while shedding crocodile tears over fake stories of Jewish babies being beheaded. He should be charged with war crimes.

 

[MAKAVELI25]

It would be the whitewashed version of the genocide we've already witnessed. The “we're working aimlessly to reach a ceasefire and hoping to bring all the hostages home” rhetoric masks the reality: behind closed doors, they're telling Bibi to slaughter as many Palestinians as possible—and supplying his regime with the weapons to do it.

The old playbook, which should be obvious by now, has Blue MAGA members defending the fact that Joe Biden gave the directive for Bibi to blow up 95% of the buildings in Gaza. A slow, steady ethnic cleansing—once defended by people on the left. Now that the right is executing it, the left no longer feels morally obligated to defend the indefensible, aside from a few centrist Zionist lunatics like @Outlaw.

If this entire thing had happened under Trump, he would’ve received marching orders to be rightfully dragged—just as Biden should have been, and now Trump again. When you don’t stand for anything morally, it’s inconceivable to understand why people hold such views, regardless of who’s in power.

As for the “10%” argument—it’s an arbitrary, mostly irrelevant number. Sure, fewer deaths would be nice, but we blew past the “would be nice” phase back in December 2023. Joe Biden facilitated the murder of 30,000+ children under his watch, while shedding crocodile tears over fake stories of Jewish babies being beheaded. He should be charged with war crimes.

10% less deaths is arbitrary to you?

 

[Loose]

10% less deaths is arbitrary to you?

If we were to bring up this suppose non factual 10% argument to relatives slaughtered under the biden regime i guarantee they'd be insulted