The Official Israel 🇮🇱 & Gaza 🇵🇸 Thread

[Outlaw]

Why wouldn't they? They've never been opposed to Palestinian self-determination. They've also pledged to lay down their arms once Palestine is an independent state, seeing that there would be no need for arms afterwards.

You're not really knowledgeable on this subject and it shows

You launch a shyt load of ad-homenin attacks to the level it can only be perceived as insecure projection. I pity you.

If Hamas cares about Palestinian self determination then why did they suspend elections and why did they commit to October 7th when they knew it would lead to wholesale slaughter of the people they claim to represent?

this idiot actually said this and thought he was making some sort of profound statement

Who said I was attempting to make a profound statement? It should be common sense to anyone that isn’t naive

To the contrary you unknowledgeable dummy, South Africans themselves have drawn plenty of parallels between Apartheid and what is going on in Gaza and in the West Bank. I'd flesh them out more if I knew that effort wouldn't be wasted...

Okay and? Doesn’t change the fact that the South African apartheid was racial and the Palestinian apartheid isn’t. You’re just making straw man.

Even more evidence you're a fukking idiot.

Apartheid would just have been horrendous if it was blacks against blacks. The Rwandan genocide, Srebrenica, the Armenian genocide were atrocities that happened within the same ethnic and/or religious lines

Nice straw man, I never said genocides couldn’t be committed along ethnic or religious lines.

And retarded. Where is the theocracy? Why would I choose Palestine (a currently powerless and undefined nation so the word theocracy doesn't even apply here) of all "theocracies" to stan?

Hamas is a theocracy, read the charter that they had once they took power.

What civil liberties does an Islamic state provide?

By definition it’s authoritarian right wing and you’re stanning it

But again, you're wrong. Plenty give a fukk.

You can't think of any reason why people care more about Israel than what is going on in Xinjiang?

If you buy anything from China you’re directly supporting Uyghur genocide which is morally worse than being forced to pay taxes. You don’t posses second order thinking so that fact never crossed your mind.

 

[FAH1223]

 

[88m3]

Give me examples. Especially in the last 100 years.

lol

Greek genocide - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

there's numerous post WWI and I'm sure you're aware of that

 

[Loose]

lol

Greek genocide - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

there's numerous post WWI and I'm sure you're aware of that

This wasn't within the last 100 years

 

[FAH1223]

Wow

 

[Conan]

You launch a shyt load of ad-homenin attacks to the level it can only be perceived as insecure projection. I pity you.

No, it's me finally realizing you're a dumbass, who thinks he isn't one. Ask @CrimsonTider what I think of him. At least he doesn't pretend to know anything other than Drake and Yung Nudy. You're way above your intellect pretending you belong. Go to the Locker Room.

If Hamas cares about Palestinian self determination then why did they suspend elections

See, this is what I'm talking about. Hamas did not suspend elections. Abbas did. What the fukk are you talking about?

and why did they commit to October 7th when they knew it would lead to wholesale slaughter of the people they claim to represent?

Next you'll ask me why slaves revolted, and why oppressed people's through history resorted to violence. Read a book?

Who said I was attempting to make a profound statement? It should be common sense to anyone that isn’t naive

It's not common, and there is zero sense in that.

When someone says, "oh our ancestors flung shyt at the wall" I guarantee you that nothing following that statement in the affirmative is sensible

Okay and? Doesn’t change the fact that the South African apartheid was racial and the Palestinian apartheid isn’t. You’re just making straw man.

Why the absolute fukk does that matter?

Nice straw man, I never said genocides couldn’t be committed along ethnic or religious lines

Then why bring it up? You're a bit slow aren't you?

Hamas is a theocracy, read the charter that they had once they took power.

Jesus Christ.

First of all, I know your dumb ass didn't read their charter.

Secondly, a political organization cannot be a theocracy. A nation can be a theocracy. But Hamas only controls Gaza. That excludes the West Bank, which is part of Palestine. Would anyone sensible call Utah a theocracy for example?

What civil liberties does an Islamic state provide?

What fukking state?

Saudi Arabia (see? I selected a country) is an autocratic theocracy. As horrible as their national government is, and as zero civil liberties are available to their citizens and residents, that would never justify a fraction of what has been done to Palestine being done to them.

This is common sense

By definition it’s authoritarian right wing and you’re stanning it

Now you're showing your cards (thankfully)

Any criticism of Israel and it's allies (including the US) in your dumb mind is an endorsement of... Hamas, and me being a fan of a theocracy that doesn't even exist?

For what it is worth, I'm a staunch fan of the Palestinian struggle for independence, and I can also acknowledge shortfalls in that struggle, including the murder of civilians on October 7 and prior.

In your simple mind, you interpret the above as "He loves Hamas!!" And that's ok, you are incapable of more

If you buy anything from China you’re directly supporting Uyghur genocide which is morally worse than being forced to pay taxes. You don’t posses second order thinking so that fact never crossed your mind.

You are very intelligent!

So you think. If only you knew.

 

[Outlaw]

See, this is what I'm talking about. Hamas did not suspend elections. Abbas did. What the fukk are you talking about?

What happened when Hamas gained control after the 2006 elections dumbfukk?

Next you'll ask me why slaves revolted, and why oppressed people's through history resorted to violence. Read a book?



It's not common, and there is zero sense in that.

When someone says, "oh our ancestors flung shyt at the wall" I guarantee you that nothing following that statement in the affirmative is sensible



Why the absolute fukk does that matter?



Then why bring it up? You're a bit slow aren't you?



Jesus Christ.

First of all, I know your dumb ass didn't read their charter.

Secondly, a political organization cannot be a theocracy. A nation can be a theocracy. But Hamas only controls Gaza. That excludes the West Bank, which is part of Palestine. Would anyone sensible call Utah a theocracy for example?



What fukking state?

Saudi Arabia (see? I selected a country) is an autocratic theocracy. As horrible as their national government is, and as zero civil liberties are available to their citizens and residents, that would never justify a fraction of what has been done to Palestine being done to them.

This is common sense



Now you're showing your cards (thankfully)

Any criticism of Israel and it's allies (including the US) in your dumb mind is an endorsement of... Hamas, and me being a fan of a theocracy that doesn't even exist?

For what it is worth, I'm a staunch fan of the Palestinian struggle for independence, and I can also acknowledge shortfalls in that struggle, including the murder of civilians on October 7 and prior.

In your simple mind, you interpret the above as "He loves Hamas!!" And that's ok, you are incapable of more

You are very intelligent!

So you think. If only you knew.

All you’re doing is launching ad-hominem attacks while attempting to stall the debate into an argument over semantics. You’re also being obtuse to the overall context.

I don’t have the patience to debate your autism today. If you believe you’re the arbiter of intelligence then do better.

 

[CrimsonTider]

No, it's me finally realizing you're a dumbass, who thinks he isn't one. Ask @CrimsonTider what I think of him. At least he doesn't pretend to know anything other than Drake and Yung Nudy. You're way above your intellect pretending you belong. Go to the Locker Room.



See, this is what I'm talking about. Hamas did not suspend elections. Abbas did. What the fukk are you talking about?



Next you'll ask me why slaves revolted, and why oppressed people's through history resorted to violence. Read a book?



It's not common, and there is zero sense in that.

When someone says, "oh our ancestors flung shyt at the wall" I guarantee you that nothing following that statement in the affirmative is sensible



Why the absolute fukk does that matter?



Then why bring it up? You're a bit slow aren't you?



Jesus Christ.

First of all, I know your dumb ass didn't read their charter.

Secondly, a political organization cannot be a theocracy. A nation can be a theocracy. But Hamas only controls Gaza. That excludes the West Bank, which is part of Palestine. Would anyone sensible call Utah a theocracy for example?



What fukking state?

Saudi Arabia (see? I selected a country) is an autocratic theocracy. As horrible as their national government is, and as zero civil liberties are available to their citizens and residents, that would never justify a fraction of what has been done to Palestine being done to them.

This is common sense



Now you're showing your cards (thankfully)

Any criticism of Israel and it's allies (including the US) in your dumb mind is an endorsement of... Hamas, and me being a fan of a theocracy that doesn't even exist?

For what it is worth, I'm a staunch fan of the Palestinian struggle for independence, and I can also acknowledge shortfalls in that struggle, including the murder of civilians on October 7 and prior.

In your simple mind, you interpret the above as "He loves Hamas!!" And that's ok, you are incapable of more

You are very intelligent!

So you think. If only you knew.

I’m still waiting on you to criticize Hamas

 

[Outlaw]

I’m still waiting on you to criticize Hamas

Someone with a 220 IQ like @Conan can’t see the irony of wanting to prop up a right wing authoritarian group like Hamas while simultaneously not being abled to be bothered to vote for Kamala because she was too mid. He might legitimately be autistic

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

 

[88m3]

This wasn't within the last 100 years

maybe a c*nt hair off 100

the lengths you cocksuckers will go to is hilarious

this isn't some extraordinary situation

The Greek Genocide mirrors this conflict fairly well actually and was in the same region even

more recent

German expulsions from Central and Eastern Europe post WWII

Forced population transfers/genocides in the Soviet Union

Jews that were ethnically cleansed from the Arab world

Numerous conflicts in Africa and Asia


most of you guys aren't willing to have a conversation deeper than Jews bad and watermelons so it's like okay but that isn't going to make Israel cease to exist

 

[Loose]

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

 

[wire28]

What happened when Hamas gained control after the 2006 elections dumbfukk?


All you’re doing is launching ad-hominem attacks while attempting to stall the debate into an argument over semantics. You’re also being obtuse to the overall context.

I don’t have the patience to debate your autism today. If you believe you’re the arbiter of intelligence then do better.

Using multiple accounts to be the same dumbass is diabolical

 

[Conan]

I’m still waiting on you to criticize Hamas

See? At least your idiocy is simple and admitted

Take @Outlaw under your wing please