The Official Israel 🇮🇱 & Gaza 🇵🇸 Thread

[Conan]

This the same thing biden said, im failing to understand your point of posting this bullshyt.

For them, empty words speak louder than actions. They probably clapped with joy when AOC said the Democratic administration was "tirelessly working towards a ceasefire" despite all evidence to the contrary

We are talking about a candidate for president who

1. As a senator was staunchly pro-Israel (shout-out to Cory Booker and the other pro-Israel black politicians)
2. Kept on repeating lies about systemic rapes on October 7
3. Shut out all Pro-Palestinians from the convention
4. Ruled out cutting off arms to Israel
5. Refused to condemn Israel aggression and atrocities in the West Bank
6. Ignored Palestinian anti-war sentiment in Michigan and elsewhere leading up to the election
7. Has not said a word regarding Gaza since the election to distinguish herself from Trump (she has done this on a few things, but not Gaza)
8. Most importantly said she was on the same page as Biden (under who we have seen most of the casualties from this war, and apart from shutting off 2000 lb bombs gave Israel carte Blanche to do whatever they wanted, and ran interference for them at the UN, in press conferences, and across the executive department)
9. Oh yeah, said Iran was our biggest enemy what a fukking charlatan

Trump is a horrible president regarding this issue, and is simply a continuation of what Genocide Joe started. At best, she would be 10% better (and that is based off of zero evidence. Just conjecture). Which is still past the red line in terms of death and misery. fukk Trump, fukk Genocide Joe and fukk Kamala. None of them get any credit or hypothetical medals

 

[Loose]

For them, empty words speak louder than actions. They probably clapped with joy when AOC said the Democratic administration was "tirelessly working towards a ceasefire" despite all evidence to the contrary

We are talking about a candidate for president who

1. As a senator was staunchly pro-Israel (shout-out to Cory Booker and the other pro-Israel black politicians)
2. Kept on repeating lies about systemic rapes on October 7
3. Shut out all Pro-Palestinians from the convention
4. Ruled out cutting off arms to Israel
5. Refused to condemn Israel aggression and atrocities in the West Bank
6. Ignored Palestinian anti-war sentiment in Michigan and elsewhere leading up to the election
7. Has not said a word regarding Gaza since the election to distinguish herself from Trump (she has done this on a few things, but not Gaza)
8. Most importantly said she was on the same page as Biden (under who we have seen most of the casualties from this war, and apart from shutting off 2000 lb bombs gave Israel carte Blanche to do whatever they wanted, and ran interference for them at the UN, in press conferences, and across the executive department)
9. Oh yeah, said Iran was our biggest enemy what a fukking charlatan

Trump is a horrible president regarding this issue, and is simply a continuation of what Genocide Joe started. At best, she would be 10% better (and that is based off of zero evidence. Just conjecture). Which is still past the red line in terms of death and misery. fukk Trump, fukk Genocide Joe and fukk Kamala. None of them get any credit or hypothetical medals

Let's not forget she sent bill Clinton and richie Torres to Michigan to criticize Muslims for not getting behind judea and samaria

 

[Pressure]

Let's not forget she sent bill Clinton and richie Torres to Michigan to criticize Muslims for not getting behind judea and samaria

Let’s not forget what’s happening in Gaza. Anyone pretending that she wouldn’t have been better than Trump with what we know now is just trolling.

 

[Conan]

Let’s not forget what’s happening in Gaza. Anyone pretending that she wouldn’t have been better than Trump with what we know now is just trolling.

What does better mean?

10% less deaths? Ok, no evidence to support your claim (including Kamala speaking for her bytch ass self to distinguish herself from Trump), but, yeah sure, seeing that no one is more evil than Trump, congratulations to Kamala for being 10% less genocidal than Trump, hypothetically

The complete halt to this nonsense and a 180 moral correction? There is absolutely zero evidence for this.

In another world where Trump served his second term consecutively to the first, there would be some swearing that what happened would never happen if Biden won the election instead of Trump. Meanwhile in reality...

We are well aware of what is happening in Gaza, what has happened in Gaza for 2 years, what has happened in Gaza prior to October 7, what is going on in the West Bank and what has gone on since I was born. We are well aware.

 

[Conan]

It's not even like recent events have vindicated Biden and Harris... The Democratic base has shifted away from Israel. Nadler headed out the door said he cannot justify what Israel is doing. They tried to smear Mamdani in the primary over his stance on Israel and ended up looking like morons. Buttigieg went for the routine of "treating Israel like your best friend who's also a sex offender" and got ridiculed across the spectrum to the point he had to correct course. Even centrist Dem politicians are seeing the light and starting to distance themselves. There was a bipartisan effort to shut down TikTok because of a ton of anti-israel sentiment especially on the left side of the spectrum

This is not a one-off issue even against a generationally horrible president. This is the defining foreign moral issue of our time similar to the Vietnam War or of Apartheid.. and Biden and Harris fukked it up. Spectacularly. And similar to how Lyndon B Johnson's record was tarnished by Vietnam, and his VP was sunk partly due to Vietnam, so was Biden's otherwise great record tarnished by Gaza. And his feckless insipid impotent backbone-less bytch-full BP didn't have the balls (figuratively) to distance herself and ignite the base, instead shooting for the mythical moderate Republican

And now we have the worst president since Nixon who has made things worse. And on God I've never heard anyone say, "if only Hubert Humphrey was in power, he'd be better on Vietnam" . They simply move on. Like we should from Kamala. Like politics (including the one in her own state) has moved on from her

 

[Loose]

It's not even like recent events have vindicated Biden and Harris... The Democratic base has shifted away from Israel. Nadler headed out the door said he cannot justify what Israel is doing. They tried to smear Mamdani in the primary over his stance on Israel and ended up looking like morons. Buttigieg went for the routine of "treating Israel like your best friend who's also a sex offender" and got ridiculed across the spectrum to the point he had to correct course. Even centrist Dem politicians are seeing the light and starting to distance themselves. There was a bipartisan effort to shut down TikTok because of a ton of anti-israel sentiment especially on the left side of the spectrum

This is not a one-off issue even against a generationally horrible president. This is the defining foreign moral issue of our time similar to the Vietnam War or of Apartheid.. and Biden and Harris fukked it up. Spectacularly. And similar to how Lyndon B Johnson's record was tarnished by Vietnam, and his VP was sunk partly due to Vietnam, so was Biden's otherwise great record tarnished by Gaza. And his feckless insipid impotent backbone-less bytch-full BP didn't have the balls (figuratively) to distance herself and ignite the base, instead shooting for the mythical moderate Republican

And now we have the worst president since Nixon who has made things worse. And on God I've never heard anyone say, "if only Hubert Humphrey was in power, he'd be better on Vietnam" . They simply move on. Like we should from Kamala. Like politics (including the one in her own state) has moved on from her

Its the but biden was better at genocide argument

 

[Conan]

Its the but biden was better at genocide argument

Which

1. Is qualitatively and quantitatively not true (yet)
2. DOESN'T EVEN fukkING MATTER, 10% less genocide is still 90% more genocide than 0% genocide which is the absolute maximum genocide level acceptable no matter the politician in power

 

[Pressure]

 

[wire28]

He’s putting this alt account to work. I’m sure the peoples whose friends and families are gone would appreciate “10% less genocide”, if we work with his frame of reference, but the not so soft Trump apologia has really gotten old.

Hard to argue that you are advocating for those unjustly suffering (and reeks of first world Euro privilege) when “just 10%” (again using their own estimates) less death is meaningless to you.

 

[FAH1223]

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

'Red line': UAE official warns against Israeli annexation of West Bank — Haaretz

Far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich declared earlier Wednesday that 'the time has come to apply Israeli sovereignty' to the West Bank, telling Haaretz that the 80,000 Palestinians who live in the territories that are expected to be annexed will not be given the right to vote in Israeli...

apple.news

Interesting

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

A rogue force operates in Gaza under IDF cover, endangering soldiers and unarmed Palestinians — Haaretz

The force, which has carried out demolitions in Gaza for about a year, has used Palestinians as human shields. Testimonies from soldiers and commanders outline a profile of the 'Uriah Force,' the team of the brother of the designated Shin Bet chief - that army commanders no longer want around

apple.news

Strange

 

[Conan]

A rogue force operates in Gaza under IDF cover, endangering soldiers and unarmed Palestinians — Haaretz

The force, which has carried out demolitions in Gaza for about a year, has used Palestinians as human shields. Testimonies from soldiers and commanders outline a profile of the 'Uriah Force,' the team of the brother of the designated Shin Bet chief - that army commanders no longer want around

apple.news

Strange

It's not strange for anyone who isn't ignorant of history (I know, you're excused).

COINTELPRO is one well known example of oppressors using third forces to interrupt.

 

[Loose]

 

[Outlaw]

Which

1. Is qualitatively and quantitatively not true (yet)
2. DOESN'T EVEN fukkING MATTER, 10% less genocide is still 90% more genocide than 0% genocide which is the absolute maximum genocide level acceptable no matter the politician in power

Never trust anyone who can’t definitively say Kamala would’ve been better than Trump