The Official Israel 🇮🇱 & Gaza 🇵🇸 Thread

[barese]

After the bombing of the Flotilla, our fascist prime minister made the speach condemning the Flotilla as dangerous and irresponsible, with the final aim of damaging her government (as if she is more important than the genocide):

Flotilla per Gaza, Meloni: "Iniziativa irresponsabile, fermatevi a Cipro"

La premier definisce "gratuita e pericolosa" l'iniziativa umanitaria e lancia una proposta di mediazione con Cipro e Israele

www.ilfattoquotidiano.it

On the other hand, after the attack there were spontaneous rallies in different Italian cities, and the USB union is announcing a new general strike:

Torino: manifestanti pro-Gaza occupano i binari di Porta Susa, circolazione sospesa

Circa 700 persone sui binari causano lo stop dei treni

www.ilfattoquotidiano.it

A reminder about the Italian prime minister:

"Mussolini was a good politician, and there were no politicians like him in the last 50 years":

Tutte le volte in cui Fratelli d'Italia ha avuto legami col fascismo

Giorgia Meloni dice che il suo partito non c'entra nulla con il fascismo. Ma tra cene "nostalgiche" e saluti romani non sembra proprio così.

www.vice.com

This government can only be pressured into action, mostly only by general strike.
We need to continue this pressure.

 

[88m3]

the Flotilla as dangerous and irresponsible

You believe it's not dangerous and irresponsible?

 

[barese]

You believe it's not dangerous and irresponsible?

Sure, armed with carrots and food cans.

Maybe they can throw them at drones bombing.

 

[88m3]

Sure, armed with carrots and food cans.

Maybe they can throw them at drones bombing.

I read the US Navy tried, it was very expensive, some people even died, and others were critically injured.

 

[barese]

This is a Ghandian peaceful flotilla, with some European parlamentarians on board.

Israel should just let them in: in the grand scheme of the genocide, their aid is just symbolic, and it won't stop the starvation...

Attacking the Flotilla is a huge marketing mistake.



Hopefully this attack might push Germany to finally stop exporting arms to Israel:


Germany is the second biggest supplier of arms to Israel, after the US.

 

[88m3]

This is a Ghandian peaceful flotilla, with some European parlamentarians on board.

Israel should just let them in: in the grand scheme of the genocide, their aid is just symbolic, and it won't stop the starvation...

Attacking the Flotilla is a huge marketing mistake.



Hopefully this attack might push Germany to finally stop exporting arms to Israel:


Germany is the second biggest supplier of arms to Israel, after the US.

I'm referring to the complexity of actually delivering aid to Gaza. It's dangerous and irresponsible leaving Israel trying to nuke the convey or whatever out of the equation even...

The US had to build docks basically a port just to do what they did and it still got destroyed by the ocean....


I'm sure it's well intentioned but it's dumb

 

[wire28]

What is this supposed to accomplish?

She’s already been branded killer Kamala, she’s done. Whether she knows that or not remains to be seen. Though it would be funny to see her be protested more than Trump during a primary and she was actually never president.

I was a little off on the timing apparently.

@Outlaw @Pressure

 

[wire28]

It would have been fire if she actually said, "you guys didn't vote for me. so there's nothing I can do."

i know I have on make up but I’m not president trump

He’s busy telling the UN this would be over if the hostages were released right now

 

[barese]

I'm referring to the complexity of actually delivering aid to Gaza. It's dangerous and irresponsible leaving Israel trying to nuke the convey or whatever out of the equation even...

UN World Food Program has been delivering that aid for many years, and they have the aid blocked by Israel.

WFP has the food, experienced teams on the ground and proven systems to respond at scale.

Palestine | World Food Programme

Famine has been confirmed in Gaza Governorate and is projected to expand to Deir al-Balah and Khan Younis governorates by the end of September.The latest Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC) indicates that over half a million people in the Gaza Strip are facing catastrophic conditions

www.wfp.org

Israel just needs to let them in.

 

[Outlaw]

I was a little off on the timing apparently.

@Outlaw @Pressure

That greatest irony is that the US probably would have recognized the Palestinian state under Kamala if she had won the election.

 

[Tribaligenesis]

That greatest irony is that the US probably would have recognized the Palestinian state under Kamala if she had won the election.

It's US policy to maintain the current status quo. This frankly would never happen, perhaps a road map towards to it to maintain pretense.

 

[CrimsonTider]

What is this supposed to accomplish?

Paid agitator

The goal is to disenfranchise Dem voters

 

[MAKAVELI25]

That greatest irony is that the US probably would have recognized the Palestinian state under Kamala if she had won the election.

That greatest irony is that the US probably would have recognized the Palestinian state under Kamala if she had won the election.

Do you have any supporting evidence for this? I don't ever remember her articulating any changes in policy from Biden. She had rhetoric, but I don't remember her mentioning any specific changes in policy.

 

[Outlaw]

Do you have any supporting evidence for this? I don't ever remember her articulating any changes in policy from Biden. She had rhetoric, but I don't remember her mentioning any specific changes in policy.

Canada, Australia and our European allies have recognized the Palestinian state. It’s a safe assumption that our foreign policy under a liberal president would be consistent with their liberal leadership as it has been historically

 

[MAKAVELI25]

Canada, Australia and our European allies have recognized the Palestinian state. It’s a safe assumption that our foreign policy under a liberal president would be consistent with their liberal leadership as it has been historically

Not patronizing you at all when I say that I think you are intelligent enough to know that this is not strong evidence.