The Official Israel 🇮🇱 & Gaza 🇵🇸 Thread

[Conan]

Do you have any supporting evidence for this? I don't ever remember her articulating any changes in policy from Biden. She had rhetoric, but I don't remember her mentioning any specific changes in policy.

He has jack shyt

Her whole entire career, she's been solidly pro-Israel. She shut out Palestinians at the Convention, echoed lies about October 7, declared Iran as the United States' biggest enemy in the year of our lord 2024, and refused to take arm bans off the table.

Plus, since her deserved defeat, she's not come out to condemn Israel. She's not condemned Trump on his actions (like she has done on other topics), she's not condemned Israel, and most relevant to the stupid statement made by our resident smart dumb nikka, she has NOT come out in support of France, the UK, Australia and others' decision to recognize Palestine as a state.

This is despite the fact that she's ignored the actions of other noble losers like Kerry and McCain (who just shut the fukk up and owned their campaign failures), and she's gone blabbing in a tell all book and subsequent interviews about how smart she navigated the campaign to a brutal loss... She's had plenty of opportunities to state where she stands on the Israel/Palestine issue. She has not stated a single fukking word in her life that indicates she would unilaterally act to recognize Palestine and stop Israeli crimes, so why the fukk would sensible people assume differently?

But, as you say below ...

Not patronizing you at all when I say that I think you are intelligent enough to know that this is not strong evidence.

He's not intelligent though, but he thinks he is

A deadly combination

 

[Outlaw]

Not patronizing you at all when I say that I think you are intelligent enough to know that this is not strong evidence.

We realize it’s speculation right? Do you think Kamala would buck our allies and sink her honeymoon popularity at the alter of Israel?

WATCH: Harris says two-state solution, end of Israel-Hamas war is crucial

Vice President Kamala Harris said she would continue to work on a two-state solution “around the clock.”

www.pbs.org

 

[Outlaw]

He has jack shyt

Her whole entire career, she's been solidly pro-Israel. She shut out Palestinians at the Convention, echoed lies about October 7, declared Iran as the United States' biggest enemy in the year of our lord 2024, and refused to take arm bans off the table.

Plus, since her deserved defeat, she's not come out to condemn Israel. She's not condemned Trump on his actions (like she has done on other topics), she's not condemned Israel, and most relevant to the stupid statement made by our resident smart dumb nikka, she has NOT come out in support of France, the UK, Australia and others' decision to recognize Palestine as a state.

This is despite the fact that she's ignored the actions of other noble losers like Kerry and McCain (who just shut the fukk up and owned their campaign failures), and she's gone blabbing in a tell all book and subsequent interviews about how smart she navigated the campaign to a brutal loss... She's had plenty of opportunities to state where she stands on the Israel/Palestine issue. She has not stated a single fukking word in her life that indicates she would unilaterally act to recognize Palestine and stop Israeli crimes, so why the fukk would sensible people assume differently?

But, as you say below ...



He's not intelligent though, but he thinks he is

A deadly combination

You think 10% less genocide is a rounding error.

You’re a sociopath who feigns compassion and empathy to fuel your moral narcissism.

A more deadly combination, literally

 

[MAKAVELI25]

We realize it’s speculation right? Do you think Kamala would buck our allies and sink her honeymoon popularity at the alter of Israel?

WATCH: Harris says two-state solution, end of Israel-Hamas war is crucial

Vice President Kamala Harris said she would continue to work on a two-state solution “around the clock.”

www.pbs.org

At this point in time, the language of a "Two State Solution" is mostly used by: (1.) politicians who want to seem like they care about the issue, and (2.) Rubes who are not paying close attention to what's going on on the ground.

On the ground, settlements are being created (E1 for example) to make the two state solution an impossibility. Please don't be fooled by the rhetoric.

 

[Outlaw]

At this point in time, the language of a "Two State Solution" is mostly used by: (1.) politicians who want to seem like they care about the issue, and (2.) Rubes who are not paying close attention to what's going on on the ground.

On the ground, settlements are being created (E1 for example) to make the two state solution an impossibility. Please don't be fooled by the rhetoric.

You’re speculating by twisting her words into your narrative so don’t think you’re coming from a superior position.

If Kamala truly believes in a two state solution then our allies pushing for it would give her the political cover she would need for it since Israel is a global pariah at this point.

 

[MAKAVELI25]

You’re speculating by twisting her words into your narrative so don’t think you’re coming from a superior position.

If Kamala truly believes in a two state solution then our allies pushing for it would give her the political cover she would need for it since Israel is a global pariah at this point.

Alright, continue falling for the Okey doke, that's your prerogative.

But to be clear, you have not provided any evidence that Kamala would have recognized Palestine other than unsubstantiated speculation.

 

[Conan]

Alright, continue falling for the Okey doke, that's your prerogative.

But to be clear, you have not provided any evidence that Kamala would have recognized Palestine other than unsubstantiated speculation.

She could clear this whole confusion now by issuing a short statement: "I, Kamala Harris, would have recognized Palestine as a state".

But she won't. As our resident smart dumb nikka noted, she's a bytch that can't stand on principle, and needs Australia to take lead so she can sneak American acceptance under the radar. In this bizarre world where she isn't pro-Israel by the way

 

[MAKAVELI25]

She could clear this whole confusion now by issuing a short statement: "I, Kamala Harris, would have recognized Palestine as a state".

But she won't. As our resident smart dumb nikka noted, she's a bytch that can't stand on principle, and needs Australia to take lead so she can sneak American acceptance under the radar. In this bizarre world where she isn't pro-Israel by the way

I don't even think that there is clear evidence that she would have recognized Palestine after Australia. Again, she never articulated any policy differences from Biden on the Israel-Palestine issue, and Biden was a devout supporter of Israel.

 

[Outlaw]

She could clear this whole confusion now by issuing a short statement: "I, Kamala Harris, would have recognized Palestine as a state".

But she won't. As our resident smart dumb nikka noted, she's a bytch that can't stand on principle, and needs Australia to take lead so she can sneak American acceptance under the radar. In this bizarre world where she isn't pro-Israel by the way

Where did I say she was perfect? Even if she took a cowardly approach by following Australia’s lead she’d still be infinitely better than Trump which is the point

 

[Outlaw]

Alright, continue falling for the Okey doke, that's your prerogative.

But to be clear, you have not provided any evidence that Kamala would have recognized Palestine other than unsubstantiated speculation.

You’re arguing semantics when I think you agree with the underlying point of my statement. She would be better than Trump on Gaza, so those protestors who stayed home or actively encouraged people not to vote for Kamala over Gaza fukked the Palestinians over from a better outcome

 

[Conan]

Where did I say she was perfect?

She doesn't need to be perfect to not be a bytch

Even if she took a cowardly approach by following Australia’s lead she’d still be infinitely better than Trump which is the point

There's no proof that she would even take the cowardly approach

And why hasn't she said she would recognize Palestine? She wrote a whole fukking book full of nothing

 

[Conan]

I guaranteed the A-rabs a better outcome: a slower, more ethical genocide. 10% less deaths. How did I lose to Trump again? Buy my book please..

 

[that guy]

At this point in time, the language of a "Two State Solution" is mostly used by: (1.) politicians who want to seem like they care about the issue, and (2.) Rubes who are not paying close attention to what's going on on the ground.

On the ground, settlements are being created (E1 for example) to make the two state solution an impossibility. Please don't be fooled by the rhetoric.

Exactly, the only solution is one Palestinian state.

Europeans should not be able to forcibly displace thousands of indigenous people to create an ethnostate. They have also demonstrated that they’re incapable of acting like civilized people attacking every surrounding country and even the US liberty.

Saying a 2 state solution is the answer is like stealing someone’s wallet getting into a fight and then saying the solution is to just “go separate ways” meanwhile you still have the stolen wallet

 

[Loose]

I guaranteed the A-rabs a better outcome: a slower, more ethical genocide. 10% less deaths. How did I lose to Trump again? Buy my book please..

These people and their favorite consultants unserious. And they're confused why democrats is at 20% approval

" all of your brothers sisters children are dead, but hey your niece will live —its better than trump!"

 

[Loose]

At this point in time, the language of a "Two State Solution" is mostly used by: (1.) politicians who want to seem like they care about the issue, and (2.) Rubes who are not paying close attention to what's going on on the ground.

On the ground, settlements are being created (E1 for example) to make the two state solution an impossibility. Please don't be fooled by the rhetoric.

The two-state solution is a farce—akin to when white Americans feign concern over the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow, yet oppose reparations. It’s performative empathy with no structural accountability. Palestine is a one-state solution, because justice demands decolonization, not partition. And no, a white religious ethnostate does not have a moral right to exist. Israel is singular in its construction: a state founded on ethno-religious supremacy, sustained through apartheid and displacement. That model has no legitimate precedent, and it should not be normalized.