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No one's giving flowers fo trump, its unfortunate he's doing what everyone with a brain said Biden should have done since December 2023. If the ceasefire doesn't stick israel is going to get glamed on the world stage, they can no longer use hostages as a cover for their ongoing genocide. Which is why hamas made this calculated decision
You think Hamas made a calculated decision ?
They have been decimated and Israel was closing in on Gaza City please. They agree purely for their own sirvival, they are not doing any kind of 4D chess.

For Yom Kippur, 10 days ago, Hamas launched 5 rockets in total...

Biden was the United States president. He had many ways to force YahooNeta to the table. He could have gone directly to Hamas. He could have cut off munitions. He could have greenlighted condemnations against Israel at the UN. He wasn't some helpless party in this. He directly endorsed, blessed and facilitated this.
I totally agree. Biden could and should have done far more.

My point is that Netanyahu and Trump played a cynical game so they could both benefit from the war not being solved during Biden's presidency. Netanyahu refused a lot of propositions from Hamas to freed all the hostages earlier because it was never enough for him.
 

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Blue maga in here more mad at random interent posters than biden administration damaging the democrats from a foreign policy and voter perspective for decades :skip:
Is this how you cope with Nazi’s taking over American courts and law enforcement? I prefer long walks and lo-fi instrumentals. Whatever gets you through it I suppose. It’s normal to feel powerless.
 

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You think Hamas made a calculated decision ?
They have been decimated and Israel was closing in on Gaza City please. They agree purely for their own sirvival, they are not doing any kind of 4D chess.
Yeah it’s a bit like Truman taking credit for securing the surrender of Germany in 1945 with 90% Germany army dead or in prison camps lol.

Baffling posts here. The average American moved on from Gaza a year ago. So much cope.
 

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Is this how you cope with Nazi’s taking over American courts and law enforcement? I prefer long walks and lo-fi instrumentals. Whatever gets you through it I suppose. It’s normal to feel powerless.
I didn't want nazi to take over american courts and law enforcement hence why I wanted biden to stop this war in November 2023. I bet you can't say the same
 

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I totally agree. Biden could and should have done far more.

My point is that Netanyahu and Trump played a cynical game so they could both benefit from the war not being solved during Biden's presidency. Netanyahu refused a lot of propositions from Hamas to freed all the hostages earlier because it was never enough for him.

I can believe this, and YahooNeta is a bad faith actor.

Which makes it crazy how he's managed to play Biden like a fiddle. But Biden let himself get played. The senile fukk.

Is this how you cope with Nazi’s taking over American courts and law enforcement? I prefer long walks and lo-fi instrumentals. Whatever gets you through it I suppose. It’s normal to feel powerless.

Our resident Zionist gaijin ladies and gentlemen :laff:
 

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You think Hamas made a calculated decision ?
They have been decimated and Israel was closing in on Gaza City please. They agree purely for their own sirvival, they are not doing any kind of 4D chess.

For Yom Kippur, 10 days ago, Hamas launched 5 rockets in total...


I totally agree. Biden could and should have done far more.

My point is that Netanyahu and Trump played a cynical game so they could both benefit from the war not being solved during Biden's presidency. Netanyahu refused a lot of propositions from Hamas to freed all the hostages earlier because it was never enough for him.

I don’t think Biden was played at all. Even if he was declining, he surrounded himself with the Dem equivalent of Neo Cons who were going to let Net and Yahoo do whatever he wanted while they played good cop/bad cop games with America.

Now, even if you are charitable and say he was played to that extent, I think that is a horrible look for him and Kamala since she didn’t separate herself from his policies.

This was a complete shyt show and now he has damaged the Democratic anti war brand for decades.

Biden will be remembered as the guy who sat back while a genocide was taking place over a 16 month period and Trump had to come in and clean up his mess. How is that for a legacy?

history will not be kind to Biden and his enablers
 

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I didn't want nazi to take over american courts and law enforcement hence why I wanted biden to stop this war in November 2023. I bet you can't say the same
Oh come on if you wouldn’t be in here doing victory laps if you didn’t take some satisfaction at the Nazi takeover of America. If there is one thing communists love it’s I told you so’s masking political uselessness.
 

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Oh come on if you wouldn’t be in here doing victory laps if you didn’t take some satisfaction at the Nazi takeover of America. If there is one thing communists love it’s I told you so’s masking political uselessness.
It's the exact opposite, actually. I'm disgusted that a Nazi white supremacist managed to accomplish what the Democratic Party—who I hold to a much higher moral standard—failed to do. They campaign on ethics and human rights, yet here we are.If this holds, it's flat-out humiliating to the democrat party: the Republican Party will be credited with outflanking a Democratic administration on a goddamn ceasefire. A ceasefire. And somehow, people in here are still parroting nonsense like "10% less genocide" as if that's a serious thing after biden let bibi turn gaza into rubble. The truth is, this entire catastrophe could've been prevented if Biden had acted.
 

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It's the exact opposite, actually. I'm disgusted that a Nazi white supremacist managed to accomplish what the Democratic Party—who I hold to a much higher moral standard—failed to do.
1. Biden did secure a ceasefire

2. Israel has pretty much gotten everything it wanted from the war.

3. There is no guarantee the ceasefire is going to hold same as the others. In fact Israel having cut off Gaza from the outside world can enter when it chooses and are in far stronger position to dictate the fate of any Palestinian state or lack there of in the future.


It’s actually baffling you are trying to portray this as anything but an Israeli choice. As if Trump forced their hand. It’s time to grow up.


They campaign on ethics and human rights, yet here we are.If this holds, it's flat-out humiliating to the democrat party: the Republican Party will be credited with outflanking a Democratic administration on a goddamn ceasefire. A ceasefire. And somehow, people in here are still parroting nonsense like "10% less genocide" as if that's a serious thing after biden let bibi turn gaza into rubble. The truth is, this entire catastrophe could've been prevented if Biden had acted.

The vast majority of the American public has moved on to things like the black bagging of 6 year olds off to concentration camps and the destroyed economy and governing institutions. This won’t be a blip on the collective consciousness “if this holds”
 
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