The Official Joe Budden Podcast Thread

[Piff Perkins]

Why isn’t that feasible though?

Because that's not how any of this works?

End of the day there are two stories and one guy (Elliott) who can clear it up for us. Rory's story makes sense, Joe's story sounds unhinged and frankly delusional. Furthermore if Joe is right and he was already in negotiations with Tidal...why would Elliott approach Rory about potentially doing business? What gain would there be for Elliott? You may say it would be to gauge whether Joe told his team anything but again, what does Elliott gain? The more logical story is that Elliott floated a deal to Rory, told him to take it to Joe, he did, Joe got mad, and then Joe approached Elliott to hash out a deal. Joe's story doesn't make sense.

 

[Notorious 1 E.Y.E.]

Thats crazy considering his history with that show

i think he was on jamie foxx show 3 time
he 3-0

 

[Sad Bunny]

Yup. Joe has a big communication issue. He overreacts to things. And then wonders why people feel a way in the end. What I will say. Is Rory kinda tried to frame it like he spoke to Elliott about Tidal first about the deal and then Joe went behind him and spoke to them and then tried to take credit for it. So Rory wasn’t being completely honest there either if what Joe says is true. Which is he was already in talks with Tidal and he felt they were trying to be manipulative by going to Rory.

Not really. He made it sound like Joe said Rory shouldn't be discussing deals with anyone whatsoever. Rory was saying he did it first and Joe followed.

 

[RichYung]

I see that XCivic nikka in here on his burner account

 

[Jekyll]

Since you do this all day, what's the value in speaking to Rory?

Informal talks happen all the time, intermediaries are needed and do help push deals but just lunch when there are negotiations ongoing, what's the point in talking to Rory unless you want to apply more pressure on Joe? Especially at a time when they were doing it for free essentially.

Rory could easily said something that took any type deal off the table. Rory could talked to joe before any business talk happened.

Conflicting versions of this story are being told. Regardless, there's value in speaking to Rory because he's someone that can get a message to Joe. Its really that simple. Nothing spoke verbally means anything in a business negotiation. I'm not here to give business 101. There does seem to be a demonstable pattern of failing to understand simple business logic though. Flipping out because an employee delivered a verbal pitch from a potential client is the stupidiest shyt I've ever heard.

Its not uncommon for junior employees to be given the task of being a "first contact" for deals like this which is essentially just taking meetings/lunches to filter out the bullshyt and deliver the good shyt to the boss. I was doing this is my first couple weeks of my last job. And I do similar work in my current capacity even though I'm mid-level. This is very basic stuff that helps you focus on other things but Joe is too stupid to understand this. Don't be like Joe. This shyt doesn't require a MBA to understand.

 

[spliz]

Not really. He made it sound like Joe said Rory shouldn't be discussing deals with anyone whatsoever. Rory was saying he did it first and Joe followed.

Exactly. But in reality. Joe did it first. Rory spoke to him after not knowing. And Joe barked on him because they was trying to ease a better deal for themselves thru Rory being that he’s the weakest link(Joe’s words). Basically saying they were trying to take advantage of Rory’s naïveté.

 

[1thouwow]

No it’s not

Everything old boy said, is wrong. Think about, he’s a self appointed Joe hater. But he got 467 posts in this thread.



Kinda makes the saying “all publicity is good publicity” saying true

 

[gho3st]

Exactly. But in reality. Joe did it first. Rory spoke to him after not knowing. And Joe barked on him because they was trying to ease a better deal for themselves thru Rory being that he’s the weakest link(Joe’s words). Basically saying they were trying to take advantage of Rory’s naïveté.

That’s not all the way accurate. Because if that’s the case why would Rory say it like this yesterday? You think Rory brings it up if Joe told him after that he’s already negotiating with Tidal? I think Joe is lying

Since you do this all day, what's the value in speaking to Rory?

Informal talks happen all the time, intermediaries are needed and do help push deals but just lunch when there are negotiations ongoing (if Joe is to be believed), what's the point in talking to Rory unless you want to apply more pressure on Joe? Fishing expedition maybe?

Especially at a time when they were doing it for free essentially.



Them admitting they didn't know about the Patreon deal until the Pod stood out the most to me. Without access to the contracts and emails, we're making assumptions but that move was interesting.

The fact Rory and Mal had no say in where the pod makes me wonder the true nature of their deals. If Joe can move the pod wherever he wants, without informing his partners, it doesn't sound like a true or actual partnership.

Joe controls the IP so he could move the pod wherever. They said they didn’t want to haggle over ownership of the pod, just wanted Joe to honor the profit sharing agreement. And you need accounting to verify you’re getting the share you’re supposed to.

 

[Sad Bunny]

Exactly. But in reality. Joe did it first. Rory spoke to him after not knowing. And Joe barked on him because they was trying to ease a better deal for themselves thru Rory being that he’s the weakest link(Joe’s words). Basically saying they were trying to take advantage of Rory’s naïveté.

Oh Joe responded to the rory and mal thing already, lol????

I'm late but I didn't listen to much but rory and mal and the episode when Joe was talking to the couches. I didn't listen to much before then and I didn't listen to Saturday's episode.

 

[spliz]

Oh Joe responded to the rory and mal thing already, lol????

I'm late but I didn't listen to much but rory and mal and the episode when Joe was talking to the couches. I didn't listen to much before then and I didn't listen to Saturday's episode.

Yea. Joe responded on IG Live. Lol

 

[1thouwow]

Because that's not how any of this works?

End of the day there are two stories and one guy (Elliott) who can clear it up for us. Rory's story makes sense, Joe's story sounds unhinged and frankly delusional. Furthermore if Joe is right and he was already in negotiations with Tidal...why would Elliott approach Rory about potentially doing business? What gain would there be for Elliott? You may say it would be to gauge whether Joe told his team anything but again, what does Elliott gain? The more logical story is that Elliott floated a deal to Rory, told him to take it to Joe, he did, Joe got mad, and then Joe approached Elliott to hash out a deal. Joe's story doesn't make sense.

Let’s go to Elliot Wilson’s page. He obviously wanted them to take the tidal deal (which was before the Spotify deal) which was less lucrative and was vague as fukk. As per usual business tactics, they’re gonna attack the weakest link and try to secure a deal (Rory).


Ask Rory, how many random lunch invites or dinner dates he had with Elliot since Joe turned down that bullshyt tidal offer.


I’ll wait

 

[Uno Venova]

I see that XCivic nikka in here on his burner account

That nikka been gone but this new nikka putting on overtime since the response dropped

 

[spliz]

That’s not all the way accurate. Because if that’s the case why would Rory say it like this yesterday? You think Rory brings it up if Joe told him after that he’s already negotiating with Tidal? I think Joe is lying

Joe controls the IP so he could move the pod wherever. They said they didn’t want to haggle over ownership of the pod, just wanted Joe to honor the profit sharing agreement. And you need accounting to verify you’re getting the share you’re supposed to.

Same way Rory won’t admit to going to Ak’s house and putting shyt in his mailbox. None of these nikkas is saints bruh. People leave out details when telling their side sometimes. I know Joe is a completely unreliable source but them nikkas ain’t above leaving shyt out either. shyt I believe them too and I feel like they have a legitimate gripe. But I’m still trying to remain unbiased as well.

 

[Sad Bunny]

Yea. Joe responded on IG Live. Lol

Oh shyt. I can't keep up anymore lol

 

[spliz]

Oh shyt. I can't keep up anymore lol

This shyt all over the place and it’s not going anywhere if u get my drift. At this point might as well sit back and wait for the end result. I hope Mal and Rory get everything owed to them and are successful. They seem like good dudes. And I hope Joe gets the help he needs.