The Official Joe Budden Podcast Thread

[Gizmo_Duck]

These can't be the tracks you're presenting as hard evidence of him being some kind of Goat lol

Usher got bigger more memorable hits on just 8701

 

[Silkk]

These can't be the tracks you're presenting as hard evidence of him being some kind of Goat lol

You think Joe Budden made good music…

 

[Trav]

Usher got bigger more memorable hits on just 8701

Don't get me wrong....CB has heat in his catalog ( as he should since he drops like 80 tracks per project). But for me, his music is just for dance/vibes. I don't get "timeless" from the majority of his music. Not to mention, his live singing leaves a lot to be desired, a million backflips be damned.

 

[Trav]

You think Joe Budden made good music…

Again, you once listened to Charles Hamilton. We can play this game all day lol.

Lol me listening to Joe won't negate the fact that Deuces and Loyal are absolutely caca when held up next to:

Superstar
Caught Up
Confessions
U Remind Me
Nice and Slow
Burn
Can U Help Me

And that's just Usher. But there are plenty of mfs that get him out the paint musically even though Ice would tell you different lol

 

[Harry B]

These can't be the tracks you're presenting as hard evidence of him being some kind of Goat lol

Ty Dolla Sign is probably up there with Marvin and Summer Walker is Aretha levels to these dudes if that is peak CB

 

[Silkk]

Again, you once listened to Charles Hamilton. We can play this game all day lol.

Lol me listening to Joe won't negate the fact that Deuces and Loyal are absolutely caca when held up next to:

Superstar
Caught Up
Confessions
U Remind Me
Nice and Slow
Burn
Can U Help Me

And that's just Usher. But there are plenty of mfs that get him out the paint musically even though Ice would tell you different lol

Charles Hamilton had one good mixtape I liked lol.


And Breezy and Usher are both GOATs so im not gonna waste time arguing them against each other. The comparison is also baseless because Usher is 10 years older. Its like comparing Kobe to Jordan.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Charles Hamilton had one good mixtape I liked lol.


And Breezy and Usher are both GOATs so im not gonna waste time arguing them against each other. The comparison is also baseless because Usher is 10 years older. Its like comparing Kobe to Jordan.

Naw Chris Brown is damn near a legacy act at this point. His debut album came out 20 years ago lol

Whatever they’ve both have done is where they stand today even though usher is still making hits here and there

I always separate really great artist from just good artist by how they evolve over their careers. I think great artist have defined era’s where their first is usually very producer/label driven and then they end up going off and really creating more unique and experimental stuff. I hoenstly don’t think CB ever really went left and carved out a distinct sound after he started. His music has pretty much sounded exactly the same way since the 2010’s

CB is more Trey Songz level to me as far as music goes

 

[Silkk]

Naw Chris Brown is damn near a legacy act at this point. His debut album came out 20 years ago lol

Whatever they’ve both have done is where they stand today even though usher is still making hits here and there

I always separate really great artist from just good artist by how they evolve over their careers. I think great artist have defined era’s where their first is usually very producer/label driven and then they end up going off and really creating more unique and experimental stuff. I hoenstly don’t think CB ever really went left and carved out a distinct sound after he started. His music has pretty much sounded exactly the same way since the 2010’s

CB is more Trey Songz level to me as far as music goes

Chris Brown is the biggest male rnb artist of the past 20 years even having to overcome the Rihanna shyt.


Go ahead and lie to me & yourself and tell me its Frank Ocean, Miguel, or some bullshyt…

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Chris Brown is the biggest male rnb of the past 20 years even having to overcome the Rihanna shyt.


Go ahead and lie to me & yourself and tell me its Frank Ocean, Miguel, or some bullshyt…

And that means what exactly? R&B one of the tiniest genre’s on billboard.

Also, frank ocean is far more influential than CB has been with just his two albums and mixtape

 

[Trav]

Charles Hamilton had one good mixtape I liked lol.


And Breezy and Usher are both GOATs so im not gonna waste time arguing them against each other. The comparison is also baseless because Usher is 10 years older. Its like comparing Kobe to Jordan.

I mean, we can take it off Usher and ask the question of what's CB's classic album? A lot of people cite F.A.M.E. (which I imagine you would to since Deuces is on there lol) as his classic, and while it's a good album, it's really just elevated hookah lounge music still.

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

the 3 of his gen was Chris, Trey and Neyo

Chris outlasted both of them

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

the 3 of his gen was Chris, Trey and Neyo

Chris outlasted both of them

Neyo’s music is still more memorable

Not even counting all his writing and producing for other big artists of that time

 

[Silkk]

And also I dont want to hear NOTHING about Usher after that last bullshyt ass album



Man get the fucck outta here

 

[Silkk]

the 3 of his gen was Chris, Trey and Neyo

Chris outlasted both of them

I agree and disagree. Neyo always felt different from them to me even though he definitely made great rnb music over that same time.


Probably just cause he ugly or cant dance


Lol but nah I look at Neyo how I like Dream tbh

 

[Silkk]

And that means what exactly? R&B one of the tiniest genre’s on billboard.

Also, frank ocean is far more influential than CB has been with just his two albums and mixtape

He also got smacked by the GOAT for running his dikksuckers