The Official Joe Budden Podcast Thread

[Harry B]

Tyler isn't a commerical megastar lol

He sells out arenas, does 170k first week in this streaming era, headlines festivals, and nowadays even had big singles. Grammys, works with the biggest artists, can fly in people like Asap and Drake like nothing for a show. Dude sold out 3 nights a row in London, sold out the Garden in an hour and on.

Of course there's levels, he's not Kendrick or Drake but he's huge.

 

[JodyHiighroller]

Hilarious, stupid narrative that was tried with Jay and Nas.

What war?? Keyword is “battle”.

 

[Danny Ocean]

He sells out arenas, does 170k first week in this streaming era, headlines festivals, and nowadays even had big singles. Grammys, works with the biggest artists, can fly in people like Asap and Drake like nothing for a show. Dude sold out 3 nights a row in London, sold out the Garden in an hour and on.

Of course there's levels, he's not Kendrick or Drake but he's huge.

That's fine.

But he isn't a "commercial megastar"

A commercial megastar is Drake, Kanye, Wayne, Nicki, Jay Z, etc...

Tyler is in a unique position though

He lowkey passed a lot of nikkas and I think he has sustainability for the longterm that most rappers can only dream of.

 

[CrimsonTider]

I'm trying to get through it but this nikka Mal can't even be objective when talking about Drake

Joe, Rory and Parks all saying it wasn't a good look having Drake's man edit the interview because it didn't seem organic and Mal was still stuck on saying "He's the biggest artist in the world, why can't he"

I'm not even gonna talk about the batty boi nails

Well Joe points was wrong

Mal was right he just didn’t articulate it enough. If you are one of the biggest acts in your genre you are going to dictate everything you’re involved in. Whether you’re Drake, Beyoncé Will Smith or Kevin Hart

Joe trying to say he wouldn’t let Drake teams edit the interview is a straight up lie because from a business perspective you’re not turning down that interview

you can’t relate it to what they did with Push because doesn’t have the clout to make any demands on controlling his image

Mal thinks Drake won for no other reason than Drake still being the bigger artist

Hilarious, stupid narrative that was tried with Jay and Nas.

What war?? Keyword is “battle”.

whoever won a battle is purely opinions there’s no scoreboard of official score card

artist drop songs dissing each other and that’s the end

I don’t think Jay lost to Nas, I don’t think Meek lost to Drake and I don’t think Drake lost Push

That shyt is all opinion and carries no weight because it’s just a stan/ hater war at the end of the day to niche portion of rap fans

but if you don’t use The platform and attention you got from a high profile battle to elevate your career in anyway and the only time you’re brought up is because you said “mean” things about another artist then you truly lost.

 

[quezlofresh]

This nikka Mal not only paints his nails but this nikka getting full sets and designs and shyt Like you aint even a musician nor do you have kids fukk is wrong with this you? I used to think the dumb shyt he say was a act but let me
find out the nikka a Lame thats lucky to be related to Biggs

I cant lie the nails through me tffff off, sad to say i gotta agree with you.

i remember when he was just a guest on the show i checked his ig, mal had no followers lol and followed damn near double the people that followed him. without that biggs card mal would look real funny in the light

 

[Danny Ocean]

Well Joe points was wrong

Mal was right he just didn’t articulate it enough. If you are one of the biggest acts in your genre you are going to dictate everything you’re involved in. Whether you’re Drake, Beyoncé Will Smith or Kevin Hart

Joe trying to say he wouldn’t let Drake teams edit the interview is a straight up lie because from a business perspective you’re not turning down that interview

you can’t relate it to what they did with Push because doesn’t have the clout to make any demands on controlling his image





whoever won a battle is purely opinions there’s no scoreboard of official score card

artist drop songs dissing each other and that’s the end

I don’t think Jay lost to Nas, I don’t think Meek lost to Drake and I don’t think Drake lost Push

That shyt is all opinion and carries no weight because it’s just a stan/ hater war at the end of the day to niche portion of rap fans

but if you don’t use The platform and attention you got from a high profile battle to elevate your career in anyway and the only time you’re brought up is because you said “mean” things about another artist then you truly lost.

Kinda agree

Diss records haven't been good since Jay/Nas and Beans/Kiss back when I thought these rappers were real. It was like wrestling back then was a kid.

No one wins or loses.

And diss tracks don't have much replay value IMO.

They're almost like a novelty/time capsule.

 

[Sinister]

He sells out arenas, does 170k first week in this streaming era, headlines festivals, and nowadays even had big singles. Grammys, works with the biggest artists, can fly in people like Asap and Drake like nothing for a show. Dude sold out 3 nights a row in London, sold out the Garden in an hour and on.

Of course there's levels, he's not Kendrick or Drake but he's huge.

He's big enough to get the attention of Eminem. Big enough to be mentioned on control. When he interviewed Nas...Nas was asking him about his situation with Bruno Mars.

He's definitely a big artist.

 

[Sinister]

Well Joe points was wrong

Mal was right he just didn’t articulate it enough. If you are one of the biggest acts in your genre you are going to dictate everything you’re involved in. Whether you’re Drake, Beyoncé Will Smith or Kevin Hart

Joe trying to say he wouldn’t let Drake teams edit the interview is a straight up lie because from a business perspective you’re not turning down that interview

you can’t relate it to what they did with Push because doesn’t have the clout to make any demands on controlling his image





whoever won a battle is purely opinions there’s no scoreboard of official score card

artist drop songs dissing each other and that’s the end

I don’t think Jay lost to Nas, I don’t think Meek lost to Drake and I don’t think Drake lost Push

That shyt is all opinion and carries no weight because it’s just a stan/ hater war at the end of the day to niche portion of rap fans

but if you don’t use The platform and attention you got from a high profile battle to elevate your career in anyway and the only time you’re brought up is because you said “mean” things about another artist then you truly lost.

All 3 of those had a practically universally ageeed upon winner.

It's like saying KRS didn't beat Shan, Ice Cube didn't beat NWA, or Eminem didn't beat Benzino.

With most things there is some level of there being room to argue. Some opinions while technically being "opinions" are so obviously true that it's absurd to deny.

Technically there's no such thing as anything that's relative and subjective.

 

[AAKing23]

Well Joe points was wrong

Mal was right he just didn’t articulate it enough. If you are one of the biggest acts in your genre you are going to dictate everything you’re involved in. Whether you’re Drake, Beyoncé Will Smith or Kevin Hart

Joe trying to say he wouldn’t let Drake teams edit the interview is a straight up lie because from a business perspective you’re not turning down that interview

you can’t relate it to what they did with Push because doesn’t have the clout to make any demands on controlling his image





whoever won a battle is purely opinions there’s no scoreboard of official score card

artist drop songs dissing each other and that’s the end

I don’t think Jay lost to Nas, I don’t think Meek lost to Drake and I don’t think Drake lost Push

That shyt is all opinion and carries no weight because it’s just a stan/ hater war at the end of the day to niche portion of rap fans

but if you don’t use The platform and attention you got from a high profile battle to elevate your career in anyway and the only time you’re brought up is because you said “mean” things about another artist then you truly lost.

If Drake's intention was to be transparent and to come off as authentic and organic as possible, him controlling the editing is not a good look which is what Joe is saying, just because Drake has that power doesn't mean he should use it


If Drake's intention was to control the narrative and put himself in the best possible light by editing out what he didn't want people to see that's fine but it looks like a publicity stunt and comes off as artificial and insecure

 

[Sinister]

If Drake's intention was to be transparent and to come off ass authentic and organic as possible, him controlling the editing is not a good look which is what Joe is saying, just because Drake has that power doesn't mean he should use it


If Drake's intention was to control the narrative and put himself in the best possible light by editing out what he didn't want people to see that's fine but it looks like a publicity stunt and comes off as artificial and insecure

Especially after doing that interview dissing Kendrick that never aired on espn and the rolling stone interview where all that shyt was supposed to be off the record, the fact he never would have said anything about "the help" and reference tracks before the Meek thing, the fact he never said anything about the child before Pusha brought it up, and only explained himself about the blackface thing after...and him blatantly lying and not keeping promises....it's practically impossible to trust or take him seriously.

 

[AAKing23]

Especially after doing that interview dissing Kendrick that never aired on espn and the rolling stone interview where all that shyt was supposed to be off the record, the fact he never would have said anything about "the help" and reference tracks before the Meek thing, the fact he never said anything about the child before Pusha brought it up, and only explained himself about the blackface thing after...and him blatantly lying and not keeping promises....it's practically impossible to trust or take him seriously.

Exactly we always get the explanations and juelzing after the exposal as with Meek and Push

Dude is so full of shyt and a cornball and that's not hate coming from me, I like alot of Drake's shyt but it is what it is

 

[Pop123]

Drake could never exist pre-Kanye West, never, he'd be PM Dawn. He owes his whole career to Kanye making it okay for corny dudes to eat in hip hop. At least Kanye was from the Chi tho, lol, this dude a former child star from Canada turned N-Word droppin goon with mob ties, and yall really buy the shyt.

 

[CrimsonTider]

If Drake's intention was to be transparent and to come off as authentic and organic as possible, him controlling the editing is not a good look which is what Joe is saying, just because Drake has that power doesn't mean he should use it


If Drake's intention was to control the narrative and put himself in the best possible light by editing out what he didn't want people to see that's fine but it looks like a publicity stunt and comes off as artificial and insecure

Especially after doing that interview dissing Kendrick that never aired on espn and the rolling stone interview where all that shyt was supposed to be off the record, the fact he never would have said anything about "the help" and reference tracks before the Meek thing, the fact he never said anything about the child before Pusha brought it up, and only explained himself about the blackface thing after...and him blatantly lying and not keeping promises....it's practically impossible to trust or take him seriously.

Exactly we always get the explanations and juelzing after the exposal as with Meek and Push

Dude is so full of shyt and a cornball and that's not hate coming from me, I like alot of Drake's shyt but it is what it is

so y’all don’t like the answers he gave. Well on don’t see how that’s on anyone but y’all and your confirmation bias

his perspective of a situation doesn’t have to align with what y’all think happened

 

[Sinister]

so y’all don’t like the answers he gave. Well on don’t see how that’s on anyone but y’all and your confirmation bias

his perspective of a situation doesn’t have to align with what y’all think happened

Don't you think YOU speaking on biases is ironic?

 

[Sinister]

Drake could never exist pre-Kanye West, never, he'd be PM Dawn. He owes his whole career to Kanye making it okay for corny dudes to eat in hip hop. At least Kanye was from the Chi tho, lol, this dude a former child star from Canada turned N-Word droppin goon with mob ties, and yall really buy the shyt.

Lmao