The OFFICIAL MICHIGAN FOOTBALL TEAM 138 THREAD: THE TEAM! THE TEAM! THE TEAM!

[Piff Perkins]

Don't believe that at all I expect Mike&Ben to make improvements at Guard spots Ruiz>>>>>>Kugler WR should be improved TE's gonna be decent only lose 1 RB.We only lose 2 starters on defense why shouldn't we be improved?QB situation who the hell knows at this point can't get much worse.Our issue next year gonna be insanely tough road games

That's the thing tho...if the QB is bad again, which seems guaranteed, all that other stuff becomes much harder to register. It's a very hard situation to be in...

Of course, I could be wrong. Look at how bad MSU was last year with their upper classmen QB, and how stubborn Dantonio was about not playing Lewerke who was clearly better. Maybe Peters will be good enough to beat out O'Korn next year, and be decent enough to open up the pass game (which frees up RBs).

 

[HNIC973]

That's the thing tho...if the QB is bad again, which seems guaranteed, all that other stuff becomes much harder to register. It's a very hard situation to be in...

Of course, I could be wrong. Look at how bad MSU was last year with their upper classmen QB, and how stubborn Dantonio was about not playing Lewerke who was clearly better. Maybe Peters will be good enough to beat out O'Korn next year, and be decent enough to open up the pass game (which frees up RBs).

O'korn won't be here next year. Speight may not be as well. I'm just hopeful the QB situation get's better Peters&Mccaffery can't be much worse imo

 

[NigerianDonDada]

Its not just that team we're young every year cause our players leave early and our top picks. Look at our youth LAST YEAR and we still made the offs. Got blasted but gained that experience. That was LAST SEASON. But y'all nikkas still using the youth excuse Enjoy playing in another wack ass bowl and using that same tired excuse next year

would I use youth as a excuse next year. Last year's team was senior laden (when did UM fans bring up youth over the past 2 season?) 10 of the 11 players starting on defense right now barely played and were backups last year. Darboh, Chesson, Butt, are all gone to the NFL. Whole WR core is new outside of Grant Perry (4th WR on the depth chart last year) DPJ is a freshmen, Crawford barely played last year. Tarik Black is done for the season (best WR on the team right now). McDoom was only used on situational plays. I would think OSU fans would know after what they seen from their WR core struggles last season. Damn near the whole team will be back next season with experience gained.

 

[Illeye buckmatic]

would I use youth as a excuse next year. Last year's team was senior laden (when did UM fans bring up youth over the past 2 season?) 10 of the 11 players starting on defense right now barely played and were backups last year. Darboh, Chesson, Butt, are all gone to the NFL. Whole WR core is new outside of Grant Perry (4th WR on the depth chart last year) DPJ is a freshmen, Crawford barely played last year. Tarik Black is done for the season (best WR on the team right now). McDoom was only used on situational plays. I would think OSU fans would know after what they seen from their WR core struggles last season. Damn near the whole team will be back next season with experience gained.

I gotta stop reading after the 1st few sentences
Why use that excuse ANY season. When you're ScUM,tOSU,Bama and programs like that,youth isn't a good excuse. Look at how us and Bama lose players early in the draft each year. Having to replace whole secondaries and linebaker groups at a time. Our motto..next man up. Also you said y'all never use that excuse So why the hell haven't y'all done shyt if it isn't harbaughs fault and youth hasn't been a problem
You seen the stats @smitty22 been putting up. So if it's not the youth then who is the problem

 

[smitty22]

I gotta stop reading after the 1st few sentences
Why use that excuse ANY season. When you're ScUM,tOSU,Bama and programs like that,youth isn't a good excuse. Look at how us and Bama lose players early in the draft each year. Having to replace whole secondaries and linebaker groups at a time. Our motto..next man up. Also you said y'all never use that excuse So why the hell haven't y'all done shyt if it isn't harbaughs fault and youth hasn't been a problem
You seen the stats @smitty22 been putting up. So if it's not the youth then who is the problem

Last year we were the youngest team in the country. 3 starters returned on offense and 3 returned on defense and we made the playoffs . I had scUM losing 4 to 5 games this year because I didn't think Harbaugh could elevate a young team to the playoffs like Meyer did last year. Told @Lucky_Lefty @portcityplaya @No Sleep that on their podcast before the season started. Harbaugh stubborn with his qb situation and the old school pro offense is outdated in college football.

 

[dh86]

Im shocked at the heel turn folks taking on Harbs. Im reading articles, coincidentally sum cat just called Rome losing it. I'm here like . Wha did folks expect with the youngest squad in the nation? 23 new starters, lost 45 seniors. Jeez folks chill, The only hope this team had to compete was to play it tight and let the D hold on 17-14 all season. That's not sustainable. I get the desire for instant success and wanting a chip immediately but what I'm seeing now got me questioning sum folks.

You really telling me folks feel better with RR & Hoke at this point??

People that want Harbaugh replaced are one in a thousand. Today’s society grants a greater voice to extreme outliers than any time before. We want changes to the offensive coaching staff. Saban has run through OCs at Bama. Dabo had to do it on defense. Urban changed OCs after last season. Brian Kelly fired Brian VanGorder as DC and that was his guy going back to GVSU and swept through his staff after last season. This is big time college football. Ohio State is recruiting the best they’ve ever recruited and they’re doing anything they can to win. They’re still our rivals right?

 

[TUA TAGOVAILOA]

Harbaugh is stuck in the 90s. Unless he completely changes his philosophy then he won't be around much longer

 

[Illeye buckmatic]

Last year we were the youngest team in the country. 3 starters returned on offense and 3 returned on defense and we made the playoffs . I had scUM losing 4 to 5 games this year because I didn't think Harbaugh could elevate a young team to the playoffs like Meyer did last year. Told @Lucky_Lefty @portcityplaya @No Sleep that on their podcast before the season started. Harbaugh stubborn with his qb situation and the old school pro offense is outdated in college football.

That should wrap that discussion up:umadbrutus:

 

[smitty22]

That should wrap that discussion up:umadbrutus:

Can we just bush this thread?

 

[Illeye buckmatic]

Can we just bush this thread?

 

[dh86]

You’ll never see a dh86 post parroting youth as an excuse for Michigan football. Ohio State was the youngest team in the NCAA last year and made the playoff. Michigan State is younger than us currently. There’s walk ons that see the field for MSU now that aren’t even D-1 caliber by any stretch. Take someone like DPJ. Donovan Peoples Jones was born in 1999, and clearly has not grasped fully in terms of the wide receiver position. He is however a world class athlete. 100% of coaches would take that world class athlete over their gritty 5th year wr.

 

[Illeye buckmatic]

You’ll never see a dh86 post parroting youth as an excuse for Michigan football. Ohio State was the youngest team in the NCAA last year and made the playoff. Michigan State is younger than us currently. There’s walk ons that see the field for MSU now that aren’t even D-1 caliber by any stretch. Take someone like DPJ. Donovan Peoples Jones was born in 1999, and clearly has not grasped fully in terms of the wide receiver position. He is however a world class athlete. 100% of coaches would take that world class athlete over their gritty 5th year wr.

Exactly

 

[smitty22]

You’ll never see a dh86 post parroting youth as an excuse for Michigan football. Ohio State was the youngest team in the NCAA last year and made the playoff. Michigan State is younger than us currently. There’s walk ons that see the field for MSU now that aren’t even D-1 caliber by any stretch. Take someone like DPJ. Donovan Peoples Jones was born in 1999, and clearly has not grasped fully in terms of the wide receiver position. He is however a world class athlete. 100% of coaches would take that world class athlete over their gritty 5th year wr.

Preach ....

 

[Regular_P]

I gotta stop reading after the 1st few sentences
Why use that excuse ANY season. When you're ScUM,tOSU,Bama and programs like that,youth isn't a good excuse. Look at how us and Bama lose players early in the draft each year. Having to replace whole secondaries and linebaker groups at a time. Our motto..next man up. Also you said y'all never use that excuse So why the hell haven't y'all done shyt if it isn't harbaughs fault and youth hasn't been a problem
You seen the stats @smitty22 been putting up. So if it's not the youth then who is the problem

This is facts. If Michigan is still gonna place itself as a top tier program, it's going to be judged against them, regardless of youth.

This is the perfect three game stretch to start Peters and see what he can do. If he's trash, McCaffrey can play next year. Makes zero sense to play O'Korn again unless Peters is Shane Morris levels inaccurate. Even then, I would ride it out because O'Korn is already at his glass ceiling; Peters could improve.

 

[Illeye buckmatic]

This is facts. If Michigan is still gonna place itself as a top tier program, it's going to be judged against them, regardless of youth.

This is the perfect three game stretch to start Peters and see what he can do. If he's trash, McCaffrey can play next year. Makes zero sense to play O'Korn again unless Peters if Shane Morris levels inaccurate. Even then, I would ride it out because O'Korn is already at his glass ceiling; Peters could improve.

Thank gawd we didn't give Luke time We learned our lesson the last few years of the Cooper era. We learned the hard way
Why not go with Peters Harbaugh gotta stop being so loyal and find something that works at this point.