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I think Chael passed on an arm triangle or two last fight, he won't make that mistake again this time if its there.

Yeah...if only that wasn't his fourth loss via Triangle choke. You might as well say Frank Trigg won't be RNC'd again either. :heh:
 

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Yeah...if only that wasn't his fourth loss via Triangle choke. You might as well say Frank Trigg won't be RNC'd again either. :heh:

That was nothing to do with what I posted fam. You can't compare someone passing on a potential winning sub to say well if he didn't get caught with a sub. QFT
 

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All that shyt he was talking about a black belt from the Nog's being akin to a Happy Meal toy, it was poetic justice he got submitted. Anderson's BJJ is underrated he'll defend it,and subbing Stann means he'll sub Silva? Stann got wrecked by wrestlers at 205 which is why Chael was a bad match-up for him, but beating Leben and Santiago had people gassing him up.
 

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All that shyt he was talking about a black belt from the Nog's being akin to a Happy Meal toy, it was poetic justice he got submitted. Anderson's BJJ is underrated he'll defend it,and subbing Stann means he'll sub Silva? Stann got wrecked by wrestlers at 205 which is why Chael was a bad match-up for him, but beating Leben and Santiago had people gassing him up.

You guys are trying to hard.

I watched the Silva movie this weekend. During the fight footage on at least one occasion Sonnen appeared to be in great position for an arm triangle. Why he didn't go all the way, who knows. He submitted Stann with the same move. You guys know that an arm triangle is about position and not about hoping to throw your legs up off your back to catch someone in a leg triangle. :aicmon:
 

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You guys are trying to hard.

I watched the Silva movie this weekend. During the fight footage on at least one occasion Sonnen appeared to be in great position for an arm triangle. Why he didn't go all the way, who knows. He submitted Stann with the same move. You guys know that an arm triangle is about position and not about hoping to throw your legs up off your back to catch someone in a leg triangle. :aicmon:
Maybe he didn't go for it because Anderson could defend against it.
 

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Maybe he didn't go for it because Anderson could defend against it.

It was right there man this is an arm triangle we are talking about. You don't pass on attempt because someone could "defend it" it's fairly low effort on the submitter part compared to gassing your arms or legs on other subs.
 

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I forget what round but he come out possesed. I can't buy that he wanted to submit him so bad he allowed him self to get blanked for 23 minutes of a championship fight.

He said in his movie he was going to submit him in training. Chaell is going to get beat up. Hopefully anderson just beats him for 5 rounds and his corner throws in the towel.
 

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You guys are trying to hard.

I watched the Silva movie this weekend. During the fight footage on at least one occasion Sonnen appeared to be in great position for an arm triangle. Why he didn't go all the way, who knows. He submitted Stann with the same move. You guys know that an arm triangle is about position and not about hoping to throw your legs up off your back to catch someone in a leg triangle. :aicmon:

The reason why he went for it with Stann and not Silva is because Silva's ground game >>>>>>>> Stann's by leaps and bounds. As a matter of fact, the arm triangle is one of the go-to submissions by wrestlers, and I'm sure that he knew that Silva knew that, so he didn't want to bother trying to go full bore into a submission attempt which would do nothing more but drain his gas and leave him vulnerable.
 

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The reason why he went for it with Stann and not Silva is because Silva's ground game >>>>>>>> Stann's by leaps and bounds. As a matter of fact, the arm triangle is one of the go-to submissions by wrestlers, and I'm sure that he knew that Silva knew that, so he didn't want to bother trying to go full bore into a submission attempt which would do nothing more but drain his gas and leave him vulnerable.

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???

So you're gonna act like the Arm Triangle isn't mostly a strength submission? You have to use quite a bit of upper body strength to lock that in and keep someone in it...and this is also when the person you're doing it on is gassed as well. Most of the submissions wrestling based fighters go for are strength subs. Chael going for an arm triangle on a non-gassed Silva just sounds stupid. You're definitely underestimating Anderson's ground game.
 

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???

So you're gonna act like the Arm Triangle isn't mostly a strength submission? You have to use quite a bit of upper body strength to lock that in and keep someone in it...and this is also when the person you're doing it on is gassed as well. Chael going for an arm triangle on a non-gassed Silva just sounds stupid. You're definitely underestimating Anderson's ground game.

Actually it uses a fair amount of leverage once they hop over and make the "turn". You are using there own arm to choke them out. And this was after several takedowns and Silva was struggling. Re-watch the fight.
 

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???

So you're gonna act like the Arm Triangle isn't mostly a strength submission? You have to use quite a bit of upper body strength to lock that in and keep someone in it...and this is also when the person you're doing it on is gassed as well. Chael going for an arm triangle on a non-gassed Silva just sounds stupid. You're definitely underestimating Anderson's ground game.

It isnt, if you know how to apply it. The arm triangle is mostly body weight and leverage. When the hold is locked you should begin circling your body in the direction of the opponents head while putting on a squeeze. Most of the work can be done by your body as your body is in a straight line with their arm, pushing their shoulder into their carotid artery. If the shoulder is near their chin and cheek area you will have to use brute force to get the sub, which is what alot of people do. With slow steady pressure its night night time.
 
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