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That's Pettis own fault, he chose not to wait to fight Bendo and wanted to call out Aldo. He chose not to wait for Edgar as Edgar just had the draw against Maynard in Jan 11, so Pettis wanted to make money and agreed to fight Guida in june 11, and he LOST. You can't be calling for shots after you lose. Then he barely beat stephens was a split, can't be calling for shots after shaky performances.

If Pettis really wanted that champ fight he has 2 choices be patient and wait for Edgar, or fight and win. Instead he lost, I don't see how Dana nor the UFC could have done anything differently.

Word. Pettis lost. All he had to do is win a few and he'd get his shot. Plus he got hurt and sat out a long time.

The only time he lost out was when there was the draw. I agree that was pretty weak and Frankie didn't deserve the rematch but Frankie had done a hell of a lot more for the UFC than Pettis had so he got it.

 

[hazardous]

That's Pettis own fault, he chose not to wait to fight Bendo and wanted to call out Aldo. He chose not to wait for Edgar as Edgar just had the draw against Maynard in Jan 11, so Pettis wanted to make money and agreed to fight Guida in june 11, and he LOST. You can't be calling for shots after you lose. Then he barely beat stephens was a split, can't be calling for shots after shaky performances.

If Pettis really wanted that champ fight he has 2 choices be patient and wait for Edgar, or fight and win. Instead he lost, I don't see how Dana nor the UFC could have done anything differently.

He DID wait for Edgar, but because the fight at UFC 125 was a draw and it got moved to October he had no choice but to take another fight. He wasn't gonna sit on the sidelines for 12+ months without getting paid.

And he called for his shot after he KO'd Lauzon, and Dana said he was up next, but instead he gave Edgar the rematch, even though Frankie clearly lost. It isn't just about how many wins he needed to get another shot - he was the last man to beat Ben and he did it decisively so the rematch made sense.

Btw, the Stephens fight wasn't as close as the judges would make you think - anyone who's seen the fight will tell you Pettis won 29-28.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Dos Santos seems ready for his rematch. In regards to Cain, Dos Santos says.

"I had no cut against Cain Velasquez. He hits like a girl. He hit me a lot during the five rounds, but did not open any cut in my face, although i left the octagon bloated and having to go to the hospital," he said in an interview to the ''Panico'' show, in Radio Jovem Pan.


Thems fighting words, friends.

Buht Buht Dos

 

[Screwface Exchange]

Btw, the Stephens fight wasn't as close as the judges would make you think - anyone who's seen the fight will tell you Pettis won 29-28.

Winning 29-28 is a close fight, thats a 1 round difference. Add in that Stephens is not a top 10 ranked fighter and your Pettis is coming off a loss, equals no title shot. Even beating Lauzon outside of beating Jens Pulver 6 or 7 years ago, has he ever beaten a top 10 guy?

Pettis to that point had 1 big win under his belt in Bendo, was still a lesser known quantity and his 1 big fight wasn't in the UFC, it was in WEC. And yes real MMA fans are aware of him and watched WEC, but to the masses and general public, Pettis was only known as the guy who did a jump kick off the cage, nuthing more nuthing less.

Edgar vs Bendo 2, was 2 known commodities, a close fight and a no brainer headliner to make some more money. In the end UFC is a business, and doing a rematch mks money and Pettis can wait or after to make more money. He waffled and clled out aldo and got hurt, thats on him. and thats the 2nd time he's been hurt now, before was the shoulder surgery which was only delaying his fight against Cerrone for the num1 contender fight. Otherwise he would've fought Cerrone earlier in year and then Bendo after, instead Gillie got the fight.

 

[hazardous]

Winning 29-28 is a close fight, thats a 1 round difference. Add in that Stephens is not a top 10 ranked fighter and your Pettis is coming off a loss, equals no title shot. Even beating Lauzon outside of beating Jens Pulver 6 or 7 years ago, has he ever beaten a top 10 guy?

Pettis to that point had 1 big win under his belt in Bendo, was still a lesser known quantity and his 1 big fight wasn't in the UFC, it was in WEC. And yes real MMA fans are aware of him and watched WEC, but to the masses and general public, Pettis was only known as the guy who did a jump kick off the cage, nuthing more nuthing less.

Edgar vs Bendo 2, was 2 known commodities, a close fight and a no brainer headliner to make some more money. In the end UFC is a business, and doing a rematch mks money and Pettis can wait or after to make more money. He waffled and clled out aldo and got hurt, thats on him. and thats the 2nd time he's been hurt now, before was the shoulder surgery which was only delaying his fight against Cerrone for the num1 contender fight. Otherwise he would've fought Cerrone earlier in year and then Bendo after, instead Gillie got the fight.

Pettis didn't ask for a title shot after beating Stephens...I don't know where you're getting that from. He asked and was given the title shot AFTER KO'ing Lauzon at UFC 144. And Lauzon was ranked top 10 at the time of the fight; he was coming off the sub of Guillard, who was on the cusp of a title shot himself, and Pettis tooled him.

Bendo/Edgar 2 was going to make money? That PPV had one of the lowest buyrates in the last few years for the UFC That was the reason why Bendo fought on TV for his next 2 fights instead of on PPV.

Also, Pettis only opted for shoulder injury when he found out that he wasn't getting the Bendo fight. It was a nagging injury that he was going to fight through if he fought the champ, but since he was fighting Cowboy instead he decided it was better to heal and take time off. The healing process took longer than expected, but he still fought Cowboy and won, so that's a moot-point.

 

[firemanBk]

This dude really said something about Edgar making money for the UFC.

Frankie Edgar is the worst drawing champion in UFC history. That guy hasn't made the UFC a damn dime.

His opportunities have come because the boss likes him. That's it

 

[Ralph Wiggum]

Dos Santos seems ready for his rematch. In regards to Cain, Dos Santos says.

"I had no cut against Cain Velasquez. He hits like a girl. He hit me a lot during the five rounds, but did not open any cut in my face, although i left the octagon bloated and having to go to the hospital," he said in an interview to the ''Panico'' show, in Radio Jovem Pan.


Thems fighting words, friends.

Buht Buht Dos

that's almost as bad as nate diaz being face first in the mat, then saying josh thompson ran the whole fight.

 

[puppetmaster]

Dos Santos seems ready for his rematch. In regards to Cain, Dos Santos says.

"I had no cut against Cain Velasquez. He hits like a girl. He hit me a lot during the five rounds, but did not open any cut in my face, although i left the octagon bloated and having to go to the hospital," he said in an interview to the ''Panico'' show, in Radio Jovem Pan.


Thems fighting words, friends.

Buht Buht Dos

Ehhhh a little trash talk isn't a bad idea to create some intrigue and tension because respect doesn't sell as well. I disagree with JDS, you lose the right to talk shyt when you look like ground up hamburger after a 25 minute assault. They both came into their respective losses with issues and took one sided ass whoopings. Both cats come in healthy and no distractions this time and I still say Cain can re-do what he did to JDS more likely again than can JDS



-P-

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

Dos Santos seems ready for his rematch. In regards to Cain, Dos Santos says.

"I had no cut against Cain Velasquez. He hits like a girl. He hit me a lot during the five rounds, but did not open any cut in my face, although i left the octagon bloated and having to go to the hospital," he said in an interview to the ''Panico'' show, in Radio Jovem Pan.


Thems fighting words, friends.

Buht Buht Dos

Dos Santos was/is a one-dimensional fighter that relied way too heavily on sprawl and brawl tactics. His supporters will quickly point out how he was stuffing Cain's takedowns early on, but what the hell was he doing to stop Cain standup? You know, Dos Santos's supposed specialty?

Besides, Cain's "girl hits" seemed good enough to put his hero, Rodrigo Noguiera to sleep.

The only criticism that I have is that I really wish Cain had gone for the submission multiple times. I think that he's going to pull it out as a surprise to finish the fight early this next time around, though, considering that Dos Santos's supposedly great Jiu Jitsu is non-existent.

 

[p00rky]

Is it me or is Santos getting more annoying. He didn't used to shyt talk than all of a sudden he starts talking shyt about Overeem (justified) and Cain.

 

[TheLukieBaby]

I'm going to be at Nick Diaz's War MMA this weekend

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

Is it me or is Santos getting more annoying. He didn't used to shyt talk than all of a sudden he starts talking shyt about Overeem (justified) and Cain.

Overeem was justified as was evidenced by his getting KO'd by Silva, but the reason he's talking trash about Cain is because Cain didn't only beat him, but handed him one of the most lopsided losses in MMA history. He hated having the wind taken out of his sails because he previously thought that he had an infallible formula for winning in the heavyweight division, but wasn't prepared to go against a guy who had a broader arsenal than he did. He's angry that a guy not only made him face his own mortality (figuratively) and to add insult to injury, it was the guy that took his belt.

I personally hope that this angst makes for better fights in the future because a prolonged, intense, heavyweight rivalry makes for great fights, but it could also be that he lets his emotions get the best of him.

 

[Screwface Exchange]

This dude really said something about Edgar making money for the UFC.

Frankie Edgar is the worst drawing champion in UFC history. That guy hasn't made the UFC a damn dime.

His opportunities have come because the boss likes him. That's it

If u think the UFC aint making money off dem Frankie Edgar fight then u clearly know nothing about business.

The reason why Dana n lorenzo likes Frankie is because he's reliable, he makes weight, fights often, doesnt pull out of fights hurt often. He's white, can go on tv do an interview and nt offend any ppl. he shows up to his interviews, and media obligations, no need for babysitting. Don't gotta worry about drug test coming up dirty for weed or anything. He was a worry free champ.

The champ now Bendo's last 2 fights were on free tv, not frankies, he still drew numbers. Dom Cruz where's he at? He can't sell fights if he out. Renan Barao da new champ, his last fight was on free tv. and his ppv b4 that against Faber, the buyrate was 225k.

Frankies last fight the buyrate was 330k. Only once has Frankie had a buyrate under 225, and that was the 2nd Bendo fight. Bendo doesn't sell, maybe due to him and his beliefs doesn't resonate with MMA fans maybe.

Mighty mouse, his last fight was free too. And his fight b4 that Mighty mouse a champ wasn't the main event, Jon Jones was. So a card with 2 champ bouts and its buyrate was 450k. Frankies 1st fight wit bendo was 375k, no double title fight or nothing.

Frankie md loot for da company, whether ppl like or dislike his style or all da rematches, the bottom line is, the shyt is selling otherwise he wouldn't be main eventing.

 

[puppetmaster]

Georges St. Pierre vs Johny Hendricks UFC title fight date set for Nov. 16 in Las Vegas - MMAmania.com





-P-

 

[nineteeneightysix]

I don't see Dos Santos beating Cain, except for a one punch KO...

His fight against Mark Hunt, showed me how sloppy his technique is, and he loses steam as the fight progresses...

Dos Santos gets hit easily, and his cardio is not up to par with Cain...I just don't see how he beats Cain, without a one punch KO...